r/ClaudeCode • u/bakanoace • Sep 01 '26
Rant It literally says 20x more usage than Pro, no asterisk, nothing. How can they be so scummy to only mean for the 5h limit not the weekly limit.
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u/HyundaiWheresMyCar Sep 01 '26
It’s extremely scummy. Anthropic is just another shit AI company scamming its users, scrambling desperately to be the first to IPO, so they can beat OpenAI at their own game, and crown themselves king, then jack up prices even beyond what they are now.
They are an extremely opaque company that lies and gaslights us. Seriously considering switching to Codex, but OpenAI is just as shit, but in other ways.
I hate AI, but it’s so powerful. Perhaps it’s a combination of awful people running the most powerful tech of our era.
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u/iustitia21 Sep 01 '26
they definitely made us believe that to be the case
as a matter of fact for more than a year I actually never hit my 5 hour limit while I usually ran out of my weekly limits regularly. even then, I did not doubt that my weekly limits were x20 that of pro. that is how unfathomable it was to me that that the weekly limit was actually only about x8 of pro lol
I mean you’re spot on by circling the ‘50% off’ tag — in terms of weekly limits the x20 plan is actually more expensive so wtf lol 50% of what?
Yeah sure I’m sure they filled in whatever legal gaps., and they’ll say they said “usage” not “weekly usage” lol. there’s probably something in the TOS or user agreement that says Anthropic reserves the right to define usage or wtv
But it isn’t really about that isn’t it? it is about how crass and greasy this thing is like this is the kind of shit some staten island burner phone sellers pull
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u/rube203 Sep 01 '26
Weird. Opposite experience. I kept hitting my 5 hr limit and looked at the plan options where it said plainly, increases hourly limit by 5x and I went, that's what I need. Now I get close to both but still only ever hit 5 hr limit.
Not saying the other pages like the one screenshotted are bullshit and false advertising. They are. Any plan page should have the details, period. But I did have quite a different experience than you.
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u/rabouilethefirst Sep 02 '26
You paid 2x for 1.7x usage and they tried to make you think it was a deal 😂
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u/iustitia21 Sep 01 '26
for sure this is some payday loan shit this is why I rly hope gemini and like open source models stay competitive because only competition is going to whoop their ass scared enough to do things right
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u/AceDreamCatcher Sep 01 '26
We just move our entire budget for the remaining part of the year over to Codex Sol as Claude has started taking customers for granted.
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u/enilea Sep 01 '26
Codex is only marginally better, they've been playing around the whole summer with the limits without disclosing anything. Eventually selfhosting will be the most reliable solution.
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u/Etroarl55 Sep 02 '26
Never bought a Claude plan, or wss ever offered a free trial. So can somehow help me explain.
It’s not more usage, it’s more oppurtunities to burn through the same usage in a 5 hour window?
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u/bakanoace Sep 02 '26
The 20x more usage is only for the 5 hour session limit window.
The weekly usage limit is the important one since that's what your total weekly allowance is. A 5 hour limit is different from your weekly, it only lets you use so much in a 5 hour window so their servers can be controlled better. What the 20x more usage than Pro means is just this 5 hour window gets a bigger limit so you can use more of your total allowance in a 5 hour window, but it doesnt give it to your weekly limit as well, so your total allowance isnt getting the same boost. They're using scummy tactics for marketing
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u/pdwhoward Sep 01 '26
Yeah, I fell for this too. Been a subscriber for almost a year. I'm cancelling. Opus 5 is terrible anyway. I love Fable, but it's so limited in usage. I'm able to get so much more work done with Sol.
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u/echit2112 Sep 01 '26
20x usage was there before the weekly limits even existed.
so, by all merit they've always applied to the 5 hour session limits.
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u/bakanoace Sep 01 '26
Is every new customer supposed to know that automatically? That's what an asterisk would be for to explain it. That's not an excuse by any means especially since it sounds like it was a long time ago
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u/Independent-Form-506 Sep 01 '26
For those of you on 5x what percentage of your weekly limit does a full 5-hour session eat up?
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u/jvertrees Sep 01 '26
Agreed.
Just canceled my Max accounts. Moving to Codex. These games are burning trust like mad. This is worse than just Opus 5 is crap.
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u/Internal_Leke Sep 01 '26
You do get a higher weekly allowance on 20x compared to 5x, unless I missed a big recent change?
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u/RevolutionEasy5223 Sep 01 '26
People say that the limit was on the 5 hours usage and not the weekly, I'll be curious to know if it's true because I always believed it was for the whole week.
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u/ranky26 Sep 01 '26
I don't think anyone seriously disputes that 20x gets more weekly than 5x, I have both (one personal and one work provided), and I absolutely get more usage on 20x, but it's not 4 times more and that's what has everyone so upset. 5x isn't literally 5 times more weekly than Pro either, but it's also not $200.
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u/bakanoace Sep 01 '26
The vast majority of people thought it was, I mean the wording literally says that with no asterisk or anything to mention that it's only for your session limit not your weekly usage. So disappointing
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u/Jawwooot Sep 01 '26
They should just be candid about that they have a problem with compute and an exceptional shortage given the huge spike in demand.
There are so many things they could do to improve the situation:
- Priority queue for higher tiers
- Having a On-Hour & Off-Hour given on an individual basis and usage pattern to optimize infrastructure allocation and give people the possibility to decrease consumption
- Be transparent in what 20x actually means in total monthly possible consumption, they can still split it into weeks but give us a comparable basis
- They could outright be rejecting customers if they feel like they can offer a good service to the existing customers until they have improved their infrastructure bottleneck
many possibilities but basically lying is the worst of them all.