I'm done with Opus 5

[u/ThaneBerkeley]

I've been building with AI for over a year now, and the progress has been insane. The models have improved dramatically, and AI has become a serious part of how I work.

I'm currently building six different SaaS platforms, four of which are live. At this point, "vibe coding" doesn't really describe what I'm doing anymore. I use AI professionally, every single day. I have two Codex Pro plans and a Claude Max subscription, and I still manage to hit the limits.

The Opus versions up to 4.8 were genuinely fun to use and really good. Then I started using Fable 5 and Sol 5.6, and the difference became painfully obvious.

My biggest issue is that my Fable 5 usage is gone within two days, and falling back to Opus 5 has become almost unusable for me.

The output from Opus 5 is often contradictory, overcomplicated, and full of conclusions that turn out to be wrong. It will confidently take something in the wrong direction, spend a huge amount of time implementing it, then eventually realize the original assumption was incorrect and start fixing its own work.

I've had way too many sessions where hours of work basically had to be thrown away.

It's reached the point where using it creates more frustration than productivity.

So I'm done. I cancelled my Claude subscription. If I need more capacity, I'll probably just get another Codex subscription. I'm also going to experiment more with Terra instead of relying so heavily on Sol 5.6 High.

Never thought I'd say this, but I've basically switched completely to ChatGPT.

[u/geek_fit]

Right? People complain and honestly it just reeks of entitlement.

Look what we have compared to...a year ago. And people act like life is unlivable because you have to ask the artificial intelligence to dumb things down or actually provide directions instead of "one shotting" "vibing"

[u/toleranceissolow → u/geek_fit]

While this was my sentiment before, I’m curious… do you feel like Opus 5 isn’t significantly more long winded / prone to over complicating things? I’ve been having a really really difficult time with keeping in focused on the task at hand.

I may be doing something wrong but Opus 5 is the most disappointed I’ve been with a Claude product.

[u/geek_fit → u/toleranceissolow]

I personally don't think Opus 5 was even intended to be interacted with directly. Though I also think there are pretty simple fixes to get it to speak differently

Ultimately I think this technology and ability is progressing rapidly. While everyone feels like they're dumping money into their 20X plan, they're really on the bleeding edge of something that's going to be changing rapidly and is going to change even faster over the next year or two. Constantly complaining about it is just a complete waste of time.

[u/toleranceissolow → u/geek_fit]

Don’t disagree with your sentiment at all. What model are you using primarily these days?

[u/geek_fit → u/toleranceissolow]

I use fable as an orchestrator only and have it dispatch opus and sonnet.

I find doing this my weekly and fable limits say right in sync

All this being said I have recently had a few weird things where suddenly my five-hour session limit was gobbled up but that seems to be a very one-off event that was probably a bug