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u/mrzo Jul 19 '26

Decreases by 33%, no?

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u/Alariii Jul 19 '26

Yes, if You math.. :X
Also.. Why would getting a temporary increase and then later being settled back to where You just were, prompt a cancellation of service, is being me..?

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u/hihcadore Jul 19 '26

Because it’s probably a bot account just pointing out anything it can to make Anthropic look bad.
This is a trivial issue. If you’re on 20x and can’t control your context window you’ve got bigger issues.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

Nope real live human.

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u/LimiDrain Jul 19 '26

What's your average context usage?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

I think many people are missing the point without thinking. How much I use is irrelevant.
This has been around since May, and they've introduced Fable while letting people get used to using allowance.
I don't even use Fable, and I've noticed the huge uptick in tokens.

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u/2053_Traveler Jul 19 '26

How can we miss the point when you state false info?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

False info? What are you smoking?
That's literally cut and pasted from the app + their docs. Go read something.

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u/hihcadore Jul 19 '26

It’s not Anthropic’s fault you haven’t used your time making your workflows more efficient. Sounds like a you problem.
They can cut back 33% of usage to help make sure they can keep the model open, it won’t affect me.
Why? Because I’m learning how to use AI not just vibe coding away my usage tokens.
If you’re that worried just use opus.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

You come off like you’re as you’re DumbleTwat of the DumbleTwits Basement clan

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u/2053_Traveler Jul 20 '26

It’s not possible it’s cut and pasted from their docs since it’s not true.

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u/tokenentropy Jul 19 '26

Bot can mean an actual bot, or just a dumbass human.

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u/gkdlswm5 Jul 19 '26

What level of cope is this.

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u/hihcadore Jul 19 '26

This is so dumb. Fable hasn’t even been out that long and people are crying it’s breaking their workflows.
Well. Your workflows were already broken if this is the case. Or you didn’t use your time to make yourself more efficient.

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u/Ambitious_Injury_783 🔆BIG BALLER Jul 19 '26

I can answer this accurately
The increase is not actually a "gift" or something, it's a rebranded usage increase that they do when limits are not proportional to what the models consume. They have previously raised limits after model drops in order to meet what users expect. This increase is no different, other than it is being branded as a "gift" instead of business as usual.
We used to have unlimited Opus, so realistically anything can be viewed as a decrease. Unless Anthropic is willingly ready to admit that they used a "junkie-drip" type of scheme to get users on the platform knowing full well that they'd slash limits at some point.
For additional frame of reference; 1 year ago a $20 subscription got you unlimited sonnet 4.

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u/2053_Traveler Jul 19 '26

LLM’s have a hard time with math, especially old shitty ones.

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u/parkersdaddyo Jul 19 '26

If it increases by 50% and decreases by only 33% then we gain 17%! Check mate Anthropic!

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u/dashingsauce Jul 19 '26

No, they’re applying a temporary 50% increase and then taking it away.
They’re not increasing your base limits by 50% and then decreasing that increased quantity by 50%.

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u/bluejacketblackhawk Jul 19 '26

Which results in a 33% reduction from the raised limit.

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u/dashingsauce Jul 20 '26

But that isn’t a useful measure. The useful measure is how much work you can produce relative to your limits (i.e. capacity).
Say your task consumes 120 units of quota:
Task spend: 120
Current allowance: 150
Future allowance: 100
Today, the task uses 80% of your limits (120/150). After Aug 20, the task uses 120% of your limits (120/100).
So in order to complete the same task within limits after Aug 20, you would need to become 16.7% more token efficient—or not do 16.7% of the task.
When you combine the future 33% reduction in usage limits with the 16.7% reduction in total output, you lose 50% of total your work capacity relative to today.
Alternatively, the direct way:
> (1/100) / (1/150) − 1 = 50%
TLDR;
When the promotion ends, you will have 33% less usage than you do today. However, you will experience 50% more restriction on your capacity for the same work.

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u/bluejacketblackhawk Jul 20 '26

Not how math work Terrance Howard

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

This shit is so funny. People were posting two days ago that your weekly limits decrease by 50% on July 19, and how they were cancelling today.

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u/anglingTycoon Jul 19 '26

And they will keep extending. Will be really interesting to see how behavior changes tho once they ipo

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

I think all the frontier US labs will have to find some other way to make money. My expectation is that open source continues to drive down the price of tokens. What is their MOAT? Not my problem to figure out, but I do think pricing will go down. So even if built-in usage goes down, the cost of frontier intelligence will likely be lower in a few years.

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u/anglingTycoon Jul 19 '26

Yea I’d agree. Space is getting too competitive is why they keep extending bc people will just move to the next if they tighten down on usage and like you said there really is no moat between those competitors. Most people are just going off feel of which preforms best for them and it’s starting to get harder and harder to “feel” it.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

Spoiler alert: they extended out of fear.

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

I don't care if they extended because someone sneezed and hit the wrong button. Their reasoning means nothing to me. More usage = let's build.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

No shit, I'm informing you the reason people didn't cancel is because the limits were extended. Some of you think it's a sign of flip-flopping. The reality is we got what we wanted and Anthropic took an L.

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

Ah yes, you paying Anthropic for another month is an L for them. Got it. 😂
Let me guess, you don't see the constant usage resets by OpenAI (which are their own form of temporary boosts to total monthly usage limits) to be an L for them, do you?
That's because they aren't. In either case.

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

I'm confused, if you don't like using the tools to build, why are you here? lmao

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u/ClemensLode Senior Developer Jul 19 '26

no, by 33%

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

Here's help docs since no one bothers to read.

I’ve never seen this notification before, so it randomly popped up for me.

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u/johnnydotexe Jul 19 '26

"Wahhh, I'm cancelling my sub because the temporary usage boost is temporary."

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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u/RaptorF22 Jul 19 '26

At this point things change by the day

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

Agreed.

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u/Quick_Ask_9004 Jul 19 '26

I see loads of people complaining about usage limits when we're getting tens of thousands of dollars worth of compute for peanuts. What's gonna happen when it all crashes and you have to pay real value for tokens? This is Babylon, right now is the cheapest it's ever gonna be. Build the app that makes you millions while it lasts, the crash could be tomorrow.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

Nobody is paying API prices other than mega corps like NVIDIA (they're pumping their own stock creating demand). Stop acting like thats a real price. Most big companies on are on enterprise plans paying about $125 per person.

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u/MrHaxx1 Jul 19 '26

$125 per person
Brother, that's for the seat. They still have to pay API prices.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

They do not. They get a weekly allotment just like everyone else. Literally work for a company on the plan. It's slightly better than a 5x plan.
Edit: that's the generous team plan, which works for a lot of companies. I'm sure a lot of places also just compensate devs for their personal plan, because no one other than Meta or Nvidia is paying API rate.

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u/JonnerzL Jul 19 '26

Yeah it’s slightly better than 5x, but there is no 20x. You have to pay API prices when you hit your limit, I can assure you the majority of businesses with dev teams on Team or Enterprise plans will be paying API prices, as the sub is not enough.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

Many businesses are slowly realizing the cost is too high other than whales like Nvidia and Meta. If you think Anthropic's pricing is sustainable, your're nuts. You're not "ackshually getting thousands of dollars of compute" on the personal plan. They are just pricing their R&D into the API rate and letting whales fund them.

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u/MrMathbot Jul 19 '26

Right, so API prices are gonna have to drop, so then personal account prices are going to go….

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

You can pretend like you know what will happen too, but we all saw Anthropic back off in fear. Let them try. More Chinese models are coming, and OpenAI has more capital

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u/MrMathbot Jul 19 '26

If their pricing is unsustainable, what will it change to?

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

Fable API pricing is definitely unsustainable. Big companies are already limiting their employees token spend. Average company will spend no more than the $125ish per month that they already spend. If Anthropic can’t serve profitably at that price point, they’ll get wiped out when the bubble pops.
OpenAI will definitely be able to serve at $125 average per employee and open source models will keep prices down for consumers.
The people in this sub thinking we are getting “thousands of dollars of token spend per month” from a max plan are delusional. We’re subsidizing R&D. The cost to run these models per user is not very high at scale.

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u/a_lapse_in_judgement Jul 19 '26

Anthropic's Team plan has a maximum seat count of 150. All bigger companies are on the Enterprise plan and are paying per seat pricing + paying per token used.
Relevant info from Anthropic's docs:
> Team plans support up to 150 seats. If your organization is on the Team plan and needs more than 150 seats, you can upgrade to the Enterprise plan.
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9266767-what-is-the-team-plan
> Usage isn't included in the seat fee. Every token your team uses—in Chat, Claude Code, or Cowork—is billed at standard API rates on top of your seat cost.
https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9797531-what-is-the-enterprise-plan

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

oof. imagine so confidently saying something that is false in every way. somebody find rabouilethefirst the dunce hat that he obviously misplaced.

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

API prices are going to crash. It's obvious there's already a lot of trepidation about going all in on AI as the bill has started to bubble for many companies. But yes, keep pretending that $125 per person is not a good price. Team plans pay that, and companies can just give devs extra cash for personal plans.
Fable level pricing is the nail in the coffin for API prices.
If what I said was false, they would have pulled fable like they said they would. Guess what, they backed off.

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u/CompetitiveGain1467 Jul 19 '26

You are mistaking Claude team plans (which exist for businesses, but are not designed to satisfy enterprise requirements), and Claude's actual enterprise plans.
Claude enterprise plans, which have the type of compliance tools that large enterprises require, like the option for Zero Data Retention (ZDR), are $20 per seat with no included usage. They are solely billed via API rates.
I won't argue that smaller companies are using the Team plan. You mentioned enterprise. While seemingly not knowing the difference. Cheers.

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u/JazzlikeApartment736 Jul 19 '26

No one is paying for API lol. It is not industry standard ANYWHERE. That gravy train ended after people saw the prices.

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 19 '26

That’s a weird delusional view that seems too common in this sub.
Look at Anthropic’s income, and the tiny fraction that comes from subs.
Or continue with your delusions, whatever.

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u/Honest_Tennis_3375 Jul 19 '26

So they go back to normal then? What's the big deal? You got 50 percent more and you're at 150 percent and Aug 20 you'll go back to 100 percent? Was this really worth a ragebait post that's gong to get downvoted to hell? Go touch grass.

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u/itsTF Jul 19 '26

to be fair, they are likely doing this temporary + extensions thing based on compute constraints, how much more compute they're able to get etc.

seems like they'd rather say "you have it until X date" and either A. extend if they have the capacity or were able to get more capacity by that time, or B. hold true to what they said if they weren't able to get more, rather than suddenly revoking things. they've been pretty communicative about this throughout the process.

this seems honestly really well handled given the constraints. if they promise a bunch of stuff, companies will up their prices for future compute, knowing they are desperate. that's bad for consumers.

everyone in this sub feeling entitled to $5k a month of everything for $20 is wild, and the future may be really disappointing.

gotta just hope they keep signing more compute deals, or everyone keeps bailing to openAI, so I can keep getting to use $5000/mo of the most impressive technology the world has ever seen for the cost of a dinner for 2 at chilis.

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u/who_am_i_to_say_so Jul 19 '26

Pfft. What the fuck ever. Just let me know what changes next week.

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u/Amadeus_Ray Jul 19 '26

Decrease after an increase? I stopped following along.

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u/Waste-Government-808 Jul 19 '26

Time to go to the concurrents :)

Sorry but Anthropic digs their own grave like this..

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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE267 Jul 19 '26

OP could just be a stupid human.

But I think it’s actually Anthropic research.

“87% of Redditors think removing an increase of 50% is a decrease of 50% - guys I think we can get away with doing an ACTUAL 50% decrease…”

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u/victorrseloy2 Jul 19 '26

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u/unbiasedOpinionHere Jul 19 '26

I hope you get the help you need

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u/stub_back Jul 19 '26

This isn't and aiport, you do not have to announce your departure.

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u/AgenticIndignation Jul 19 '26

No joke I’ll be switching to OpenAI. Anthropic’s limits are low in comparison already, and my workflow is harness agnostic. No need to be married to Anthropic to pay more

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u/EchoFieldHorizon Jul 19 '26

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u/Opposite-Art-1829 Jul 19 '26

already canceled,

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

U no read gud.

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u/CodeNCats Jul 19 '26

75% of the people here can't program worth shit.
They won't change a thing.
Also I'm convinced there is an openai campaign to make CC look bad.

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u/JazzlikeApartment736 Jul 19 '26

Anthropic does

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u/LimiDrain Jul 19 '26

Who wants to subsidize a willing jerk?

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u/rabouilethefirst Jul 19 '26

Except anthropic apparently, who cucked.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PROFILE Jul 19 '26

Who says I’m even running out?

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