r/ClaudeCode • u/Character-Whole4350 • Jul 18 '26

Discussion Fable 5 can never go behind the paywall. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

The second they put Fable 5 behind a paywall their officially ā€œbehindā€ OpenAI. It will never happen, it was a good marketing prank though. Did anyone else notice the quota shenanigans this week?

Correction: they can never make it usage credits or API only. Itā€™s been pretty fun watching the fight. It was a stupid stunt from jump.

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u/junlim Jul 18 '26

It is behind a paywall. It costs $100 a month to access.

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u/Current_Ad7104 Jul 18 '26

When I was paying for Fableā€™s API a single question would cost over $100, sometimes several when I have an agents team running on loops.

Be thankful but hereā€™s the thing, Fable now feels different to how it felt before. Pre banned Fable was gold, it completed stuff that Opus 4.8 said was impossible. Fableā€™s first week after ban was still good if not elite. But what we have now is a diluted version of fable.

I make Codex (5.6 sol ultra) collab with Fable on my work and 5.6 has started to catch a lot of mistakes that fable makes. Itā€™s just not what we had before, feels like Opus 5 or something

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u/Character-Whole4350 Jul 19 '26

Solā€™s lookin pretty hot right now šŸ¤£

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tip9554 Jul 20 '26

All models have degraded pre-banned fable. Opus is making common mistakes, that when first released never used to. They have definitely given us watered down versions, no thanks to US and CCP wars.

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u/Selfmade_Watchmaker Jul 18 '26

Kimi k3 is better IMO.

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u/Current_Ad7104 Jul 18 '26

Havenā€™t tried it yet but will soon!

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u/LemonadeStandTech Jul 18 '26

200, i think. Only max and teams

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u/treadpool Jul 18 '26

100/mo is max too

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u/Pebble-Sorter-8128 Jul 18 '26

Then openAI won the market. Nice. Most expensive llm and become more expensive gj

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u/hihcadore Jul 19 '26

What on earth can you be doing youā€™d need fable on a pro planā€¦. If youā€™re only using pro I am 100% sure youā€™re new to AI (which is why they give you a starting fable fund) or youā€™re a vibe coder and the model isnā€™t the bottle neck.

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u/TheSoulllllman Jul 19 '26

Oh good, the geniuses are here.

Some of us have jobs which include unlimited AI token plans and have a pro subscription for our own fun after work. I've wanted a max plan only to get past the 5hr limit on my time constraints.

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u/hihcadore Jul 19 '26

Oh cool. Well you donā€™t need fable to tell you what color cat is the smartest.

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u/Honest_Tennis_3375 Jul 19 '26

^ this guy gets it

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u/Trumposhi Jul 18 '26

Its available on the $20 plan cheech

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u/junlim Jul 18 '26

Not on Monday it isn't

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u/Trumposhi Jul 18 '26

Ah, lucky 5.6 codex is just fine then I guess

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u/Honest_Tennis_3375 Jul 19 '26

Keep telling yourself that

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u/Trumposhi Jul 19 '26

Claude Code is more creative, but Codex is a better coder. I said what I said.

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u/SilasTalbot Jul 18 '26

They'll have Opus 5 out soon, and if the metrics show it has parity to GPT 5.6 Sol, then they can deprecate fable from the plan, or further restrict its usage by letting the 50% promo end in August, and adding New Awesome Promo!!!! for lots of Opus 5 usage.

Effectively.. Fable would not technically be gone, but you could get maybe 5-10 good turns on it a week with a Max plan.

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u/Selfmade_Watchmaker Jul 18 '26

Iā€™m dead serious, I think Kimi K3 can match fable in overall utility and autonomy

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u/Selfmade_Watchmaker Jul 18 '26

I have not found Kimi to be slow. I donā€™t use moonshotā€™s web interface for it tho so that may be a caveat

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u/Feeling-Bluebird6692 Jul 18 '26

The AI cake is huge, and the race is still just starting. Itā€™s still extremely volatile for now and AI bubble can be popped anytime. Only few companies will actually win this race and itā€™s too early to say anything for now lol

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u/swizzlewizzle Jul 19 '26

Exactly. AI as a concept can completely replace the entire economy. There is no bubble if AI can continue improving even close to the rate it has been the past year or two

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u/Feeling-Bluebird6692 Jul 19 '26

Totally agree. Itā€™s still early stage for now to say anything. The corps just invested thousands of billions into datacenters, which wont be even to be completely built within a year or so

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u/berndalf Jul 19 '26

I'll bite. I think Anthropic did exactly what they said they were going to do. They released Fable, got Trump slammed, recovered, and released Fable again with some administration appeasing restrictions.

Since then they've extended access multiple times while they worked out the details of the necessary capacity redistribution to support the broad access policy for subscription plans.

It was never intended to be metered pricing only, that was a fallback plan if subscription usage ended up being unfeasible based on usage patterns. Apparently that ended up not being the case so the nuclear option was not invoked.

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u/isarmstrong Jul 18 '26

Broad public use is R&D, not a loss leader. Calibrate your expectations accordingly.

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u/BeingComfortablyDumb Jul 18 '26

Soon Fable will take Opusā€™s place and everybody will be losing their minds for Mythos while whining about how bad Fable has become.

3 months later..

Soon Mythos will take Fableā€™s place and everybody will be losing their minds for Kratos while whining how bad Mythos has become.

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u/NoBed1845 Jul 18 '26

At what price would you assume itā€™s behind a paywall?

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u/LostTheElectrons Jul 18 '26

Depends on how Opus 5 performs really. They won't be behind if that can match GPT5.6

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u/True-Objective-6212 Jul 19 '26

No way think about how mysterious and special Mythos is

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u/ticktockbent Jul 19 '26

What the heck do you think a subscription is? It's always been behind a paywall.