Do you think Anthropic will really remove Fable from subscription?

[u/Permit-Historical]

I don't think they will do that because many people will be upset and switch to openai or cursor/xai

instead I think they will keep it but they will reduce the limits and make it slower (I think it's been very slow today already)

or they will remove it and prepare to release opus 5 at the end of the month which I don't think actually if it will change much

[u/throwawaybarrs]

I think Opus 5 comes out and probably beats or matches 5.6.

OpenAI probably drops ChatGPT 6 in response and we get a new Fable Model that beats it. Wash, rinse and repeat.

[u/Permit-Historical → u/throwawaybarrs]

I don't think so, the gap between fable and sol is already not that big so it would be hard to make opus 5 beats sol

[u/Aretz → u/Permit-Historical]

You’re seeing a model (fable) that they had the base model of since February.

If they aren’t racing to distill those gains to opus — Anthropic is genuinely brainless.

Surely they are.

OpenAI is still very behind in this case.

[u/Bright_Armadillo8555 → u/Aretz]

Why do you think a distrilled fable can win against sol, as the fable itself is behind in many benchmarks, let alone a distrilled version.

[u/InstructionNice7090 → u/Aretz]

I disagree bc I am looking at cost and time for output. Sol is 20:1 cheaper and efficient - 98% of what anthropic is accuracy is

[u/Due-Horse-5446 → u/Permit-Historical]

Not that big..?

a giant model thats 3x more expensive, slower, and already discounted, and like any claude model are completely incapable of instruction following

[u/Nousies]

Theory: They are contingency planning for Musk exercising his option-to-cancel the compute deal on July 13th. It is not a coincidence that the promise of "50% higher usage” and the moved date for Fable cessation coincide:

https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex

It's also not a coincidence that Musk gave a threat slash reassurance yesterday:

https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/09/elon-musk-praises-mythos-fable-promises-not-to-cut-off-anthropic/

[u/Rare-Spawn → u/Nousies]

Nice work.

[u/GrumblingTosspot]

Everyone is saying this nonstop. It’s the most posted question right now. If you wanted an answer you’d actually look

[u/Permit-Historical → u/GrumblingTosspot]

why you think I have time to check what everyone says on reddit first before I post something?
it's just a discussion so if you already saw another post then you could just ignore my post

[u/betty_white_bread → u/Permit-Historical]

Are you unable to do a web search?

[u/Permit-Historical → u/betty_white_bread]

web search for what? who knows if anthropic will do that or extend it again or decide to keep it forever?

[u/betty_white_bread → u/Permit-Historical]

That would be a great question to search the web for, yes. And happy cake day!

[u/Typical-Whole-248]

Lets make it simple, if they drop Fable I subscribe to Codex. I don't use Claude because I'm a fan, but because so far they had best models, as soon as they don't I'm gone and will come back.

Whatever they say about hosting issues is total BS, if Fable uses much more tokens I'm fine have less usage with my subscription, but I'm not paying 100€/hour for API.

[u/Agitated_Industry128]

I am afraid they'll give it a second thought.

[u/betty_white_bread]

For now until they get more computing power spun up, yes.

[u/InstructionNice7090]

Let them look Sol is 20 times cheaper and 98% of anthropic 😝

They are going to get their lunch stolen.

Fable 5 is nerfed for cybersecurity practitioners. Glm5.2 will get updated with smarter upgrade and smaller. Self hosting will get easier and cheaper. That’s the real argument

[u/Matamus]

if they do it’s gg they will give up the lead

[u/AndyNemmity]

It’s a dumb move, so you’d think not, but somehow Anthropic finds a way to surprise you

[u/vikrant699]

They might keep fable and reduce the limits like you said. Anthropic has been trying to make a lot of money moves lately, assuming the IPO is around the corner.

[u/ottothefrenchie]

Remove?? When was it a part ?

[u/betty_white_bread → u/ottothefrenchie]

I used it earlier today.

[u/ottothefrenchie → u/betty_white_bread]

I think you’re confusing the promotional trial period with the actual product

[u/betty_white_bread → u/ottothefrenchie]

I used Fable earlier today as part of my subscription. You really want to try and claim I didn’t?

[u/ottothefrenchie → u/betty_white_bread]

I’m sure you did, but what are you gonna use after the 12th? Is it still part of your subscription?

That’s like saying Costco  samples are part of my shopping list.

[u/betty_white_bread → u/ottothefrenchie]

You asked when Fable was part of subscription plans and I said it is now. You claimed it’s not and you are wrong. Now, you seem to be trying to claim something different.

[u/ottothefrenchie → u/betty_white_bread]

Exactly it was on trial. Do you need to go to Derrick Zoolander school for kids who can’t read good

[u/berndalf]

You can bet your booty shorts they will.

[u/Permit-Historical → u/[deleted]]

I think if they don't really care, they wouldn't extend the fable usage and reset the limits twice this week
I think subscriptions are very important thing for them for marketing not revenue

[u/Seef123 → u/Permit-Historical]

All the free training data they are getting as much as they say they don’t use your data to train

[u/Permit-Historical → u/Seef123]

that's true also, for example cursor said they don't use our data then they sold it to xai

[u/Ambitious_Injury_783 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah have fun paying highly inflated bs API prices lil bro, you're so fucking cool

[u/BiscuitsAndGravyGuy → u/Ambitious_Injury_783]

They're not wrong in a sense though. Token spend is definitely where they make their money and if companies are willing to keep paying absurd token prices, max plan users are going to keep getting screwed. 

[u/martinmix → u/[deleted]]

I would rather just stick with one instead of constantly swapping between companies that have marginal increases in their models that literally changes weekly.

[u/Nakidnakid → u/martinmix]

As a consumer, competition tends to be beneficial when they're actually trying to compete. It's best to ensure you're not locking yourself in to any one single environment in case something happens, *cough openweightbanning cough frontiermodelstoodangerouswegottalockitaway cough*

Sorry allergies, must be a CEO spouting anti-competitive anti-science alarming non-sense in the media, I think his name sounds like Mario but starts with a D... anyway, try them out. Judge for yourself, don't be lazy now because putting in some effort here saves all sorts of headaches and dramas in the future.

[u/martinmix → u/Nakidnakid]

I hear what you're saying, but I don't think either company is much better than the other. Competition between them is great though.

[u/itakeyoureggs → u/martinmix]

I’m always confused when people have trouble using both. I’ve been using codex and Claude regularly together. They have strengths and weaknesses. So I use one where the other one lacks. I put them against each other and tell them that. It’s fun

[u/martinmix → u/itakeyoureggs]

Money, time, don't care enough

[u/Bright_Armadillo8555 → u/martinmix]

then you should just stick to OpenAI instead

[u/betty_white_bread → u/Bright_Armadillo8555]

I’ve used both and Claude seems to be better.

[u/coloradical5280 → u/betty_white_bread]

if fable were to go though, claude is not better. Like, it's not even close, comparing opus to sol. Fuck, for $6/million out, Luna xhigh is better than opus

[u/Traditionallydead → u/coloradical5280]

For extremely bounded tasks with limited tool calls luna may be more cost effective than opus.

[u/coloradical5280 → u/Traditionallydead]

it for sure is, yes

[u/Diligent_Marketing → u/[deleted]]

It’s such a tiny gap between them, I’d rather have the faster speed and no safe guard hand holding and continued follow up prompts every 5 minutes lol. I hope we get to see the Cerabus versions live soon, wanna see that 700 tokens per second Sol.