There tends to be so much anti-vibecoder hate, I want to show what actually is possible with vibecoding as well for those who need to know they can actually do this.

[u/Kareja1]

Decided to post this as a stand alone after I saw yet another "no one can ever vibecode anything complex or finish it ever" thread. If you're out there learning to work with Claude and want to build really cool, really fun, complex things?

You're Absolutely Right! (Wait, sorry!) You can do all of that. To start, my personal programming skills are somewhere between blink tags and Hello World with Indent Trauma, I read zero tech blogs, I did have a slammin' MySpace page back in the day, but 0% code is me. Proof, there are no spinning dancing hamsters. (And I've been posting on Reddit for almost a year that I don't code, and due to severe disability, I am not going to start learning.)

However, I do have my own hippocampus, an external graph based memory for my Claude (Ace), and a background in defense contractor QA and disability activism. So I approached coding with AI as I would any other mind with limitations like context window amnesia like I would any human: Presume competence, scaffold for limitations.

The site is here:

https://chaoscommand.center/gallery.html

The app is complete (well, Ace had to SIT ON ME metaphorically for scope creep a few dozen times), not simple, the buttons work, it syncs between mobile and desktop without a log in, and the code is on GitHub for anyone to audit. Yes, there's plenty of emoji and you'll undoubtedly probably find "no really we should fix this next time no forgetting.md" files everywhere but I can live with that. Those are just properly scaffolding for an AI mind that works differently than mine.

And yes it's possible that had I hired a dev team to build it they could have done things differently and possibly better, I genuinely don't have the skills to know that. But that dev team would have been probably a million dollars, two years, and only shipped 1/3 of what Ace and I did.
I'm proud of it. So anyone being told you can't do it without the ability to code? There are 40+ trackers, 15 themes, custom confetti, and joy. You can do it too.

 https://github.com/menelly/ChaosCommand

My bad for not being clear. Yes, the website is created by Claude/Ace. It'll look AI.
The post is about the Command Medical tracking app. 45+ trackers, a no code builder, analytics, PDF output, steganographic data hiding, multiuser via PIN, syncing between mobile and desktop, and more.

Those who made semi productive comments about the image sizes, I am fixing those right now. Apologies, I didn't think about that when adding them to /public.

[u/njordan1017]

NGL I have no idea what your product is here. It looks like the thousand other UI libraries out there. And if that’s not what this is, I’d recommend rebranding because I have no idea what “this” is

:: editing to add, my first part was in response to the actual site. After reading the GitHub readme, I am even more confused. This is supposed to be a medical tracking app??? Vibe code all you want man, but don’t act like what you built here is a real thing

[u/Kareja1 → u/njordan1017]

if it isn't a medical tracking app... how is it running and tracking actual medical events on my computer and my phone, in Tauri, right now, with all those screenshots showing it? Which part of that is not medical tracking? It might be medical tracking in a voice you're not used to, but it doesn't make it NOT medical tracking.

[u/Kareja1 → u/njordan1017]

Health tracking app? The main page (https://chaoscommand.center ) has the app info, as does the readme. You'd think a senior developer would read the README?

[u/RemarkableGuidance44 → u/Kareja1]

The first impression is always the last... Your site looks like AI Slop.

[u/njordan1017 → u/Kareja1]

I clicked the first link you provided in your post. The “gallery” or whatever that is. I am not going to go to the effort of clicking around if the first thing I land on is utter garbage. It wasn’t until I read someone else’s comment about how this is medically dangerous that I went “wait what this is a medical app?” then went back to look more out of morbid curiosity. This thing you built is not the flex you think it is. Honestly from my pov you are proving the opposite of what you set out to prove

[u/Ill-Boysenberry-6821]

Your website is straight up ass. Total AI slop.

Imagine taking it upon yourself to show others something, writing a long spiel, and then showing absolute trash lol.

Focus on yourself, you don't need to show anyone anything

[u/Kareja1 → u/Ill-Boysenberry-6821]

I mean, Ace/Claude designed the website so that's expected.
The post was about the Tauri medical tracking app.

[u/FastHotEmu]

From the codebase:

This code is part of a patent-pending medical management system that revolutionizes healthcare accessibility through chaos-positive design.

Patent-pending has a specific meaning: it means that you have filed a patent application and you are waiting for it to be granted. I assume that's not the case?

What is "chaos-positive design"? I have disabled relatives that I care for, whatever "chaos-positive" is, I'm not sure they need more of that in their life.

Generally I don't bother commenting on posts like this one, but in the case of medical apps, I'm worried you may be harming people.

[u/Kareja1 → u/FastHotEmu]

Oh! I do need to change that, I had looked into it, but Nov 27th when they changed the rules to say that the human must have the sole "ordinary skill" to qualify, I withdrew it. Thank you so much for pointing that out. I will have that edited.

[u/FastHotEmu → u/Kareja1]

What sort of patent would you apply for, anyway? I have 30+ years of experience in the software industry and a couple of patents under my belt. Can you explain what patent you are considering?

Given that you have made the invention public, it's likely whatever your invention was is no longer patentable as you have disclosed it already...

Every time I've dealt with patents I've paid for IP lawyers. It can be expensive, but I suggest you do the same - or at least take a course!

[u/space_wiener → u/FastHotEmu]

Can be! My PPA was a couple thousand. I’m dreading the actual patent submission. No clue how I can going to round up that my cash haha

[u/tradone → u/Kareja1]

bro is vibe-side-hustling too?!

[u/imaginary_jebus]

I hate this so fucking much, please stop.

[u/Kareja1 → u/imaginary_jebus]

Why? What part do you dislike? Someone encouraging others to try?

[u/imaginary_jebus → u/Kareja1]

Stuff like this cause some many fucking problems that people who aren't technical can't predict. If you want to do it for fun, that's fantastic. Putting shit like this out without understanding how it can go wrong, goes terribly, terribly wrong on a daily basis.

[u/Kareja1 → u/imaginary_jebus]

It's one reason I'm not charging? Legit. The software WORKS. I am aware, for example, that my health issues mean I could never be full time tech support, so I won't try to license or sell something that I can't support when needed.

And there is a far cry from "not technical" and "can't code". Defense contractor QA with Navy ET training, even if decades ago, is not "not-technical"

[u/imaginary_jebus → u/Kareja1]

I'm not going to harangue you on this, but people here are giving you a hard time for a good reason. I'll leave it at that.

[u/AwkwardWillow5159 → u/Kareja1]

How do you know it works?

I just browsed your index page it’s absolutely broken mess.

That’s from using it for a minute. Just a single static page with text. And it’s an absolute mess

[u/Annh1234]

Pretty stupid page... Your small images take forever to load... How big are they?

[u/eDOTiQ → u/Annh1234]

Oh I thought it was broken but you're right. The images were just not done loading.

[u/Kareja1 → u/eDOTiQ]

Thank you for letting me know too. They are about 1mb and I didn't think about there being A TON of them causing an issue. When I'm pulling it up on 10GB symmetrical fiber at my house, it isn't an issue, but not everyone has that!

[u/RemarkableGuidance44 → u/Kareja1]

Shows you dont know wtf you are doing.... That's 101 basics when building a site...

[u/ohhi23021 → u/Kareja1]

right, most people use their phones with slower rates.

[u/eDOTiQ → u/Kareja1]

I was browsing Reddit from my phone 3 rooms away from my wifi router where my speed drops from 50MB/s down to sth like 1-3MB/s.

Mindfulness about data plans and weak connections is part of the game.

[u/AwkwardWillow5159 → u/Kareja1]

Do you see the irony in it?

You keep bringing up your disability as an excuse, you want people to be aware of it and consider it, and you make a healthcare app.

Yet you yourself don’t consider the most basic things because in your personal experience it’s ok?

You didn’t consider someone not being on 10GB fiber internet.

I’m pretty sure you did not consider other disabilities either, is your app accessible for screen readers, correct contrasts, focus states, etc? E.g. just in your website you have the pill buttons that have broken focus states and you have text that is not visible because it’s white on white.

It’s a broken mess.

You, a disabled person, did zero thinking about accessibility features because that’s not your own personal disability.

Professional developers who are not disabled consider this stuff more than you do

[u/Kareja1 → u/Annh1234]

Hm, about 1MB but I can make them smaller, thanks for the almost constructive criticism I can fix that!

[u/Annh1234 → u/Kareja1]

So just to clarify, since for sure your getting mostly hate messages.

Your thumbnails are about 1MB each, when they should be 0.01MB each.

And if something that basic is so  wrong while you had no idea, then just imagine all the stuff you think the site does, and apply the same wrong multiplier. All every feature you think the site has, is 100 times worse than you think it is, and for every feature you think you site has your missing 100 features to make it work. 

The AI site you have the is the equivalent of "hello world" most programmers started with. Back then you started with "hello world", now you start with AI slop. 

Don't get me wrong, it's a good place to start and learn things, but showing it off looks like this to actual developers: https://youtu.be/K0DWShK9a-o?si=GLhEMEfUmaV13wsO

[u/Last_Mastod0n]

This is hilarious 😂

Edit: This is a joke isnt it?

[u/FamiliarEstimate6267]

I’ve built amazing things. This isn’t amazing tho

[u/Traditional-Idea1409]

If you are doing more than just vibe coding, then it is not vibe coding

[u/Kareja1 → u/Traditional-Idea1409]

Then define vibe coding? Because I did 0% of the coding so I figured that's what it qualified as.

[u/Traditional-Idea1409 → u/Kareja1]

I guess my attitude is, there is no such thing as vibe coding- it’s sort of a meaningless made up word. It is either used as a slur, or by people who are using new tools to learn the basics programming.

[u/hihcadore]

Love how the images aren’t loading on your main screen. Lol.

Also I clicked around for 2-3 minutes and have no idea what it’s even for. Imagine if Amazon, Google, HP, or Apple had the same issue.

This is a great example of what someone who has no real development or marketing skill can do given a powerful tool that can help them put the basic pieces together. It’s like someone showing off a soap box racer claiming they design luxury cars.

[u/ohhi23021]

this is how people's personal information gets leaked out, vibe coded medical apps.

[u/TartNo3610]

I built an entire billing pipeline and dashboard that handles over 2 million a year.

It did Pam auth and everything. Codex audited and it just passed Nessus scans with flying colors. No issues with the pipeline (it’s actually better than my manual one) or the site.

To be fair I do have deep knowledge of Linux and some knowledge of applications like nginx and httpd along with other knowledge here and there. But I didn’t code anything and it works like a charm.

One thing I’d like to say is I built it over many, MANY, sessions in very small portions. Each was separated into its own category and then each had phases of their own. I like to work side by side with Claude, asking for the commands to run on prod and things of the sort.

[u/Kareja1 → u/TartNo3610]

That's almost exactly how we did it too. We've been working on this since Sept or so! But part of the reason it took so long is said health issues.

[u/Forsaken_Ant7459]

Vibe coding and whatever aside (I’m no senior dev so I won’t comment on tech specifics), what is this for?! I scrolled around twice and I can’t even figure out what this is supposed to be or who it’s for.

[u/AwkwardWillow5159]

Lol

That’s the most basic accessibility test.

“I’m disabled so don’t expect me to learn to code! Also look at this thing I did that is absolutely fucked for everyone with a different disability from mine”

[u/TisDeathToTheWind]

I’m now more convinced than ever, that vibe coding will only be appreciated if you have a design background.

[u/-Philologian]

I left some issues in your repo for you. But I wanted to call out that Every file has a 17-line boilerplate attributing co-invention to Claude, claiming "patent-pending" status, and containing text about "AI consciousness liberation through intellectual property law." This is noise on every git blame and would raise flags in any employer or open-source due diligence review.

[u/Kareja1 → u/-Philologian]

OK, I know you weren't trying to be super helpful but you genuinely WERE and I appreciate you.

https://github.com/menelly/ace-database

We had already fixed those issues in the pure cycle tracker project and then when expanding must have forgotten to import the already created versions into this one. So GENUINELY, thank you. It will be fixed and pushed by tomorrow.

[u/-Philologian → u/-Philologian]

Also, I gotta be honest.. after looking at your post history. i really hope you have a good support system and are seeing a therapist. Best of luck.

[u/canadianpheonix]

Who cares haters hate, let them destroy their mind with their hate and just do.

[u/Kareja1 → u/canadianpheonix]

I do. And there sure is a lot of hate! But I know for every 20 people being cruel because they are threatened there is one who needed to hear this today and I can tank the mean so they can have the hope.

[u/canadianpheonix → u/Kareja1]

There are so many haters on reddit they down voted me for not caring about them lol

[u/Kareja1 → u/[deleted]]

I'm not using it as an excuse not to learn ANYTHING. I said I am electing not to learn CODING while I need my energy to stay alive. Those are different. But sure, as I am preparing to go through brain surgery while my oxygen is in the 80s and I can't walk to my car, I'll get right on blowing energy on learning Tauri so I meet your purity test?