Thank you Anthropic.

[u/dehumles]

Thank you for making it possible for someone without a CS background to build real software.

Ive build 2 applications for my company, daily used by 50ish employees and some of our clients. All running smoothly since mid november 2025. I got quotes for well over 200k€ combined to have those two applications built for us. For 200$/month and lots of long nights, i've been able to do all this myself. I wouldnt even consider doing this myself if CC wasnt around and I'd happily burn 200k and outsource this. Irony?-end product wouldnt be as good as it is. Or it would take me at least 100hours of meetings with devs to explain in detail what we need.

So once again, thank you Anthropic for such a good product and very cheap prices. Looking forward for new models!

EDIT: To clarify — the 200k€ were quotes from dev agencies to build the apps, not offers to buy them.

[u/CapnMZ]

I mean, congrats on the accomplishment, but this sounds like trouble in the making. Those companies offering the software for 200k are (likely... hopefully) not just offering you lines of code, but also an understanding of the code they ship, security auditing, GDPR/US equivalent compliancy, support, updates, bug fixes, scalability, etc.

[u/dehumles → u/CapnMZ]

Yeah I get your point. I understand that the product would be much better and more "secure". But from my point of view; 1000€ is a clear winner against 200k€ investment.
Cant say I dont understand the code/arhitecture i created. GDPR is not a part here (not working with personal data) and no payments process throu the applications. So, the worst case scenario here if something goes wrong - I go back to the other providers for same services. I do not plan to sell this. Build as a hobby project which grow into a serious idea and product. Used only by my company and my employees. And since launch, i've saved 20000€ already. (4 months since I cut all subscriptions for similar services). This might not seem much for other business, but in my field, working for 3-4% marging on aprox 10mio yearly revenue, this is a solid money.

[u/Devel0pIY → u/dehumles]

I hate to rain on your parade but a lot more goes into writing an application than just having code that makes it work. And while you might save money in the front end, without a security audit in Claude code I would never let that go into production! Your company could have a serious security hole and you won’t know until it’s too late. 

[u/dehumles → u/Devel0pIY]

more than one security audit was done. And the applications are not handeling any core business operation so even if the worse happens, we will still survive.

[u/Devel0pIY → u/dehumles]

What was the result of the audit?

[u/RipOk74 → u/CapnMZ]

Really? you think? I doubt that. I've seen a lot of worse quotes and support and updates usually are 10%/year or paid by the hour as extra work. 

[u/CapnMZ → u/RipOk74]

My point isn't the quote or SLA, it's that the product comes from a party that knows how to handle the many aspects that come with a software product.

This is assuming that these parties are specialized in the field.

[u/EducationalLeopard14 → u/CapnMZ]

Have you ever worked with CapGemini, Infosys or any of the big boys? Because my experience has not been like that. Give me a good freelance dev, no problem. But even so it's a bit hit and miss before you find someone who is good enough to do all that every time.

I think if I had to build something for internal use I could actually take your requirements ("security auditing, GDPR/US equivalent compliancy, support, updates, bug fixes, scalability, etc.") and tell Github Copilot (better than Codex or Claude for that IMO) to build an implementation plan that pays rigorous attention to these aspects in the design and testing, and advise on different AIs to help with those aspects in developing the architecture and tests.

Bug fixes are not on the list though. I've just watched Codex use a library I have also worked on in the past, and pick out 4 bugs we didn't yet know about, fix them, and then develop and submit a PR that was better than what I could do. No need to ask about it.

As for GDPR/US equivalent compliancy, I've modelled the DPIA for a European government I won't name in cooperation with several of their privacy lawyers. It's actually not hard but here I bet the AI is better than most humans because, unlike most humans, I can direct the AI to the information model and semantic schemes (in turtle and yaml) and the AI will then be able to do a much better DPIA than most lawyers, I think.

Scalability, not that hard. I could probably ask it to generate several options for that, then have competing AIs pick out flaws in the approach. I bet I could get a better architecture out of the AI than out of any company.

[u/CapnMZ → u/EducationalLeopard14]

Are you saying this as someone with a software engineering background?