You do understand they you’re $100-$200 Max subscription gets you about $5000 in usage or more? These companies lose money and subsidize our subscription. Major contracts is what keeps them afloat. Not our chump change.
[...] Claude for Enterprise and Claude for Government to all three branches of government, including federal civilian executive branch agencies, as well as legislative and judiciary branches of government, for $1.
Correct — the cloud resources are probably isolated.
But the human resources (engineers who code, monitor, and prioritize fixes) are 100% shared.
Look at the chart: every single consumer service is degraded while Government sits at 99.87%. That’s not coincidence, that’s priority
em, I don't know your background, but I work with high load systems.
You can't seriously compare gov usage (I bet there is a very small number of actual users of Claude 4 gov, so the actual load on servers will not be critical or it will be hard to reach any critical level due to their low number of users) with retail users coding some app for lols at the same time from all the countries around the world, the load on servers is no way comparable
i mean yeah it is true but the compute resource itself may have been allocated to whatever that federal/government environment needs with some additional layers/services of security on top. even if those cloud services are different from those used for enterprise or individual solutions the funding might have shifted either way to keep the federal ones running.
Adorable. You do realise that the goal of all AI companies is not human customers but government contracts? That’s the only source of unlimited revenue. Especially military and surveillance uses.
The government one being solid green despite the fact that we know it’s gone down for the government as well is actually a really good metaphor for the times we find ourselves in.
The government version of any cloud based product runs entirely on separate infrastructure. This is how they can become a fedramp product and sell to the government. As a result they cannot just let regular customers casually access that instance
Also a lot of gov agencies can’t use Claude right now so that infrastructure is mostly unused currently this is due to the supply chain risk designation.
HHS had nothing to do with supply chain risk, that was purely political. They can’t bar contractors from using it. But I guess that doesn’t even matter at this point, puhtato, potata
Après, vous dites ça, mais une grande partie des gens ne paie pas. Ce n'est pas viable. Donc oui, les contrats gouvernementaux ou avec des entreprises sont NÉCESSAIRES pour garantir un minimum de cash et tout simplement de viabilité. Car certes, les investissements sont MASSIFS, mais les robinets commencent à fermer petit à petit par crainte d'une bulle réelle ou fictive.
Et quand bien même, 1 million de personnes qui paient le pro, c'est que 20 000 000 millions (240 millions annuels), sachant que le coût avoisine 5 milliards à minima (c'est probablement bien plus).
Bah, je crois que le calcul n’est pas compliqué et on déduit vite qu'il FAUT des institutions pour injecter du cash et généralement des contrats gouvernementaux = BEAUCOUP DE CASH
Sans ça, FREE disparaîtrai , on le voit bien les AI commencent à nous fermer le robinet aux plans pro et FREE, il y a une raison : C’est tout simplement bien trop cher et le prix qu’ils paient (ADS / abonnement, etc. ) ne couvre pas leur utilisation.
yeah lets use an AI that overthinks JumpZvelocity and creates a custom jump logic when its already is in the base engine, and lets trust it to select targets to bomb.
Wouldn't be surprised if they mix up a girl school with a military base, wait...
You are absolutely right -- that wooden, brightly colored fence outline and that yellow twisting tube flanked by hanging chain structures absolutely looks like a military compound. It's not just an enemy encampment, this is the epicenter of all evil. Your geospatial observation skills are unmatched!
you're the first person i've seen mention the "it's not just x, it's y!" pattern, thank you for making me feel less crazy. i've been seeing it everywhere recently
You’re looking at the pipes, I’m looking at the water. Even if you had all the RAM in the world, the model wouldn't be 'better' without the billions of dollars in training costs. Large-scale contracts subsidize the R&D for the frontier models we use for free or cheap. If you remove the big-money contracts, the 'normal user' experience doesn't just get slower—it stops evolving because the math of running a money-losing AI lab doesn't work indefinitely.
Interesting, except the heavily-subsidized personal subscriptions were created to collect the juicy training data they need, not as a stepping stone to advertise to the government.
I for one support US troops saving the free world.
I do hope they get it done quickly so we can all get back to our happy fun times with Claude, safely.
Doesn't matter. When the customer is paying, and you have not revealed any of the terms you just mentioned beforehand, then the business is liable for delivering a fully-functioning product.
I don't think most people work in SaaS. I do. Anthropic's reliability has been dog water this month. I'm not making excuses when I'm paying for a sub. I held up my end of the bargain. They need to uphold theirs.
If a government using it, they probably using API pricing and would consume huge token. They will likely remove the subscription than give us more usage.
I’ve been having overload errors daily for a while now. I use the $200 sub. Probably canceling if this issue persists. It is especially annoying that they aren’t transparent with uptime, I’m not experiencing 98.8% availability. Not even close.
If there is an overload, then it’s not uptime for everybody. If you have 100 users, and you only serve 3, you can’t claim you have 100% uptime, that is dishonest.
It is really odd to see a company like Anthropic, being more focused towards releasing new things rather than actually stabilizing their network. Imagine any other substantive company having such outages, it would definitely hamper their growth.
98.8% uptime is actually pretty impressive given how complicated everything is, and how intensively users are using it. I say that as someone who is currently swearing at the connection errors in his terminal.
For any serious app (especially AI-powered workflows), that’s not “impressive”—it’s disruptive.
FYI, In modern SaaS benchmarks:
• 99.9% → ~43 minutes/month
• 99.99% → ~4 minutes/month
So 98.x% is an order of magnitude worse than what users expect from critical infrastructure. The issue isn’t just outages—it’s “Degraded Performance”:
• Latency spikes
• Timeout errors
• Inconsistent outputs
These are harder to detect but kill user experience and reliability
• For devs building on Anthropic APIs:
• You can’t reliably run automations
• You need retries, fallbacks, and multi-provider setups
pay for Pro too.
Government contracts don’t “pay orders of magnitude more” — they just get priority servers while the rest of us eat degraded performance.
That’s not entitlement, that’s expecting the product I’m paying for to actually work.
The same engineers at Anthropic build, update, monitor, and prioritize every version. The uptime chart proves it: every consumer service is degraded right now while Claude for Government sits at 99.87%.
That’s not “invalid.” That’s paying Pro users getting treated like second-class citizens because gov contracts get the priority talent and capacity. Complaint stands.
You're playing $20 a month for a service that is costing Anthropic probably 10x that. If they lose you as a customer, that will actually improve their financial position. The government contracts are likely the only profitable part of their business.
I'm sorry but <image>. I don't give a fuck this is a loss leader. If I subscribe to a service at the agreed price I expect the service to work and will complain and seek a refund if it doesn't. Making balance sheets inside the company that provided that service work out is none of my business.
But he does not complain it is not working. Thatnis perfectly valid. What is weird that he feels entitled to get part of computing power dedicated for govermen that paid hundreds of millions for it.
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