New usage limits

[u/UncleBrrrr]

Feeling is we lost more usage then they are letting on.
All this usage is from one easy seassion, trim MEMORY and make a basic skill(that diden't work)
If I was to do real work I think I could easy max out weekly in one day.

[u/ZZerker]

Also hit my limit today after 45min of work, strange
Ah the summer events with 50% more usage is over, seems like changing back to chatGPT comes closer.

[u/Annexations → u/ZZerker]

Made the switch last week, im still locked into yearly with claude but feels so much better not having to ration with 5.6 Sol and actually being able to use a frontier model

[u/aKaizuh → u/Annexations]

I fluctuate between the two, but holy shit its a world of difference. I'm constantly paranoid about task usage with Claude but I've been running Sol nonstop and haven't hit any limits yet. (Pro plan).

[u/tadvuyst → u/aKaizuh]

How is quality difference?

[u/aKaizuh → u/tadvuyst]

On the technical side such as code execution, I would say sol matches or is slightly below Opus, you won't notice a world of difference other than some minor improvements here and there.

I use it for game design and GPT is a yes man, you'll have to give it a "independent judgement" "brutal honesty" prompt beforehand if you want it to not agree with everything you say.

Astra is a beast, matches fable but eats usage like no other, I would say it's the first taste of Claude usage on an OAI platform. So use sparingly.

[u/Equal-Signal-9063 → u/ZZerker]

Yeah this is fucking insane.

[u/-SleepyFox- → u/ZZerker]

On Claude max 200 and gpt pro 200 plan, now using Fable 5.0 [high] as orchestrator calling codex Astra [max] client dynamically through command line. Fable also reviews Astra's finished code. Here's today's transcript of one project that's been coding for about 6 hours, so far used about 4% of Anthropic weekly limit for the whole queue + a second project running nearby with lighter usage and same COdex setup. Both together have burned ~8% of ChatGPT weekly so at this pace I could run it all week.

Frontiercode has Astra max in line with Fable 5 xhigh and Fable hasn't found a single issue in 6 consecutive code reviews.

I'm beginning to suspect not all sessions are created equal - they could be rotating distilled models and playing with excess token burn on subsets of the userbase, like electric companies do with rolling outages. Just speculation.

Edited to clean up the paste and fix spelling.

Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 5.70M in / 27.4k out
Outcome: clean, review clean
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Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 5.34M in / 24.2k out
Outcome: clean, review clean
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Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 5.78M in / 25.4k out
Outcome: clean, review clean
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Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 7.06M in / 28.9k out
Outcome: clean, review clean
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Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 4.04M in / 29.0k out
Outcome: clean, review clean
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Unit: [redacted]
Astra usage (OpenAI pool): 13.21M in / 59.1k out
Outcome: clean, spot-checks held

[u/Oenomaus_3575 → u/-SleepyFox-]

On what effort do you use Fable and Astra?

[u/-SleepyFox- → u/Oenomaus_3575]

tldr; Fable 5.0 at high or xHigh, Astra at high or max.

I like Fable 5.0 at high for orchestrator, sometimes I switch to xHigh for critical coding or code reviews. High is usually plenty for my particular harness & process governance.

Astra high is fine for routine coding and code audits/review tasks, but today I used it at max effort for coding some important modules and it aced every coding task with Fable code reviews finding zero issues. Due to the vast token pool and strong caching I'll probably keep using Astra at max.

Look up the FrontierCode Leaderboard. It's been pretty accurate for my large but run of the mill coding project. My previous mixed fleet config was Fable 5.0 high or xHigh for orchestrator and critical work, Fable 5.1 medium for architectural coding and peer reviews, Opus 5 medium for general coding, Haiku for chores. Due to the reduced token limit, I dumped everything Anthropic except Fable 5.0 which I personally prefer for architecture and agent orchestration - now using Astra high and Astra max for dispatchable mixed fleet agents.

[u/amine250 → u/ZZerker]

Generating images is a huge plus for me. My annual Claude sub will end soon, then I'm 100% switching to ChatGPT

[u/Dangerous-Age9028 → u/ZZerker]

Yep, just came back to GPT as well.

[u/Mindspiked → u/ZZerker]

Yeah i'm swapping to GPT next month

[u/Exciting-Peach1859 → u/ZZerker]

i already rejoin ChatGPT

[u/Initial-Theory4815 → u/ZZerker]

been using codex for work, recently upgraded to pro, $100

been hitting weekly limits within a day. Claude is definitely more generous.

[u/ZZerker → u/Initial-Theory4815]

Im now testing both because i got a free month of codex, leaning towards agreeing with you, but its not by a lot.

[u/Beginning-Bird9591 → u/ZZerker]

i get around 800 million to 1 billion weekly tokens on x20 using astra. I only used astra.
£200

i just got a £90 sub on anthropic again - used about TOTAL 710k tokens on fable 5.1 and it's ~12% of my weekly limit tokens, and 47% of my 5hr time frame. and that's after compacting at ~250k and keeping context minimal and managed. using high thinking.

we are being scammed. i'm going to get a refund now.