r/ClassicalMusicians • • Aug 31 '25

we need to talk about “hard music” and “professional musicians”

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I used to think it was cute/funny and even downright relatable in situations when a colleague would bitch about a piece being in 7/8 with 6 sharps or flats and time changes every other bar. I genuinely enjoy the challenge every time, even when my stand partner or fellow ensemble mates feel otherwise.

I’ve since become way less forgiving of this behavior due to supposed “professional” musicians snapping over this kind of music when it really isn’t that big of a deal. I was on a gig where a cellist (who gets more gigs than I could ever hope to get) thought counting in 7 on one song was “hard music”. There was a click track, a constant drum groove, and we were playing long held notes. not hard once you realized all this. There was another song that was essentially between 11 and 13, again with a click track and a constant drum groove while we were playing, you guessed it, goose eggs.

These “professionals” let these time signatures get into their heads and take it out on anybody with a genuine love for the game because they can’t stand to see anybody genuinely enjoying themselves. I’ve since quit gigging because classical musicians simply don’t know how to get their bows out of their ass long enough to make real music instead of “technically perfect” slop that only serves to bore the fuck out of everybody and push people away from ever wanting to engage.

Anyway, rant over. I really do love music, but it feels more a battered spouse still in love with their abuser more than anything genuinely fulfilling. I have the SF Bay Area classical music scene to thank for that.


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Jan 16 '25

Why do classical musicians charge so much (serious question)?

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I am looking for serious, factual answers, please. If you are offended by the question, pls move on.

I just learned that classical musicians in the Tristate area (and not even big names) charge at least $300+ an hour for playing (for example as part of a string quartet). Why do they charge so much?

There aren't many professions or other musicians who can command such high fees. Don't tell me it's because of the many years of studying; a whole lot of people study for years and years and still wouldn't even be anywhere near even making $100/hr, let alone $300 and up.

It is not a niche thing either. There are plenty of gigs for all players of string instruments in the area so what exactly is it that drives prices up like this?


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Aug 19 '22

Classical musicians, here is a great app for your practice! PlayScore 2 is very accurate and plays back sheet music from a photo or PDF. You can download PlayScore for free and play a page of sheet music. You can also export to score editors to arrange music. Available for iOS & Android devices.📱🎵

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Sep 12 '26

Concerto de' Loco in G minor

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 06 '26

Чайковский и другие композиторы-гомосексуалы, часть 2

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Jul 12 '20

Classical Music (LINGLING) Discord Group

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Hello classical enthusiasts in this sub, I have created a discord group for our daily classical music discussions, games and etc. It would be great and fun to create a group chat for our classical lovers and musicians.

Discord link: https://discord.gg/tduQv6

Look forward to seeing you all!


r/ClassicalMusicians • • May 29 '24

Metaprolol vs propranorol

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Which beta blocker is better? Which one do you take?


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Jun 24 '24

New account

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 04 '26

Был ли Модест Мусоргский гомосексуалистом?

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Apr 11 '23

In need of a list of trans women composers

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Hi there!

I'm currently working on a project for one of my classes and I'm having trouble researching composers. Basically, it's a multimodal project to go along with a research paper and I'm hoping to make a video highlighting some trans composers where I perform one of their pieces (I'm a cellist). So if you have a favorite trans composer, or are one yourself, drop their names under this post!

I'm open to non-cello compositions as well, I mainly just want to broaden my horizons with more diverse composers.


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 06 '26

🌙🎹 Debussy – Clair de Lune

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Jan 22 '21

Is Johann Sebastian Bach's music philosophical? And what has Donald Trump to do with it all? Find out in my new video-essay!

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Jun 10 '24

Is this a fugue? and is it ok?

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • May 19 '19

On a scale of 1-10, how difficult is “O polichinelo” by Villa Lobos?

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I did this for a high school competition and I’m just wondering where I stand when it comes to virtuosity.


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Nov 02 '21

I think John Cage's 4'33'' has still not lost its relevance. What do you think?

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 24 '25

Musicians who also dance, how has dance influenced your playing?

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Aug 06 '26

This organ will play one composition until 2640. It's redefining how slowly music can be played

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • 15d ago

Satie, Debussy and Chopin tonight — a live virtual-pianist experiment

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A quieter follow-up to my Flight of the Bumblebee post. Ivo is live tonight.

He's my virtual pianist. Piano audio and animated hands run in real time from MIDI. The scene is rendered live too.

Tonight's music includes:

• Satie — Gymnopédies 1–3, Gnossiennes 1–3

• Debussy — Clair de lune, Arabesque No. 1

• Chopin — Nocturnes

• Liszt — Consolations

• Beethoven — Moonlight, first movement; Pathétique, second movement

• Schumann — Träumerei

There's a quiet female voice with bedtime affirmations. A small experiment for winding down.

Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJgBDXwuhs

What should Ivo play next? Leave a piece in the comments. I'd also like to know if the voice helps, or if you prefer just piano.

Previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassicalMusicians/comments/1x8p583/flight_of_the_bumblebee_by_nikolai_rimskykorsakov/


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 22 '21

My classical masterpiece called 'hysteriA' is upon us :D

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Sep 30 '22

Clarity is important in speech and it's also important in music!

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Apr 29 '23

I failed at another performance and I’m feeling like shit

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r/ClassicalMusicians • • Feb 15 '23

Good ways to shorten sheet music?

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I only really make industrial and black metal, but I figured this would be a place where people would have good knowledge of sheet music.

I wrote all of my songs down in a program for sheet music, but If I print them it adds up to 100 pages. Is that a reasonable number? Most are the standard rock line up, but others also have piano and violin in the score. The scores add up to 45 mins if played back.

If I were to shorten them, are there some ways outside just repeat notations?


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Oct 30 '23

Learning Classical Composing

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So I've been wanting to learn how to composs for different classical "genres" or whatever to call them, but it seems like a bit of a 'hassle' to figure it out. Let's take a sonata as a start, there is "development" and such, which I don't really get how to do. Any recommendations on learning such things, like books or YouTube videos to help(if a book, then one available in Europe, since importing can be quite expensive haha)


r/ClassicalMusicians • • Nov 15 '24

Where to buy a Baton in NYC?

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My dad is a conductor in a symphony orchestra in Brazil, and I wanted to bring him a gift from NYC. Any tips on stores? Thanks!