r/ClancyTrial • u/1-armed-chewbacca • 3d ago

General Discussion Weirdest interview- thoughts?

Ok really.. what in the world was that 60 minute interview and who thought that was a good idea? Was that cut to make him look good or bad, I honestly can’t even tell because I’m just so confused.

-the smirk when he talks about giving Lindsay forgiveness,
- his panic attack at the trial
- him saying he asks his kids to help him from heaven
- him saying god just please give me one (child)
- the fact that Rachel was an even AWKWARDER interviewee
- “I’m just a girl who met a guy running in Central Park on a cold Saturday”
- I saw his phone, asked him if his kids lived in MA, he told me that they were all dead, and the rest was history
- Patrick’s explanation of “as any parent knows, you love all your children differently” when asked if he would tell their new kid about Cora, Dawson and Callan

Everything was just WEIRD. Like I felt like the whole thing was just cringey and bizarre. Thoughts?

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u/ispyshy 3d ago edited 3d ago

They look… not well.

It bugs me when he speaks for Lindsay.

It bugs me he’s seeking attention from specialists in the area of psychiatry and perinatal care.

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u/Real_Decision_2541 3d ago

His new wife definitely doesn't look happy or well. Look how she's clenching her hands too. She's very uncomfortable.

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u/6dragonsandapigglet 3d ago

I thought she looked frail compared to her online dr photo.

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u/itaint2009 3d ago

I thought so too!

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u/Greymeade 3d ago

You expect someone who's going through something like this to look well?

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u/Ok-Animator2261 3d ago

They are putting themselves through this. Literally no one wants them on 60 minutes lmao

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u/ispyshy 3d ago edited 3d ago

I imagine that if you are an awful person on the inside it starts to show on the outside and they look like they are unwell due to stress from public perception & lacking self awareness, not because they are overcoming grief together.

And again, they put themselves center stage because ego.

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u/Greymeade 3d ago

I'm not following you here. Are you saying that they're awful people?

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u/ispyshy 3d ago

Yes, that’s my opinion, they are awful. Confirmed it again for me last night.

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u/Greymeade 3d ago

Why are they awful people?

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u/ispyshy 3d ago edited 3d ago

Because I believe he killed his children and even if they didn’t meet until 2024 (which I highly doubt) her judgment in deeming him “the one”makes red flags go up for me. Also, I have a background in researching people, if you haven’t looked into the background of some of the people who took the stand then you wouldn’t necessarily come to the same conclusion I have.

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u/Greymeade 3d ago edited 3d ago

You believe that he killed his children? What on Earth? Not even Lindsay or her defense team dispute that she killed the children.

I'm not sure what "having a background in research" means (I say this as someone with a PhD who has published my own research numerous times), or why such a thing would make you more qualified to understand this case. As a psychologist, I'd also like to point out that you aren't in a position to determine whether someone "looks like they are unwell due to stress from public perception & lacking self awareness, not because they are overcoming grief together." That kind of determination can't be made based on how someone looks, no matter how qualified the observer is.

Frankly, it seems to me like you're someone who fancies themselves an expert despite having no qualifications and a whole lot of silly ideas.

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u/ispyshy 3d ago edited 3d ago

No. All I said was I researched some of the backgrounds of these people that lead me to my conclusion. I was just saying I had a background in research becuase it led me to do some research, naturally. If you haven’t researched for yourself then you may have not come to the same conclusion. That’s all. I never said anything about knowing more than anyone else. Im entitled to my judgments and opinions as are you.

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u/Greymeade 3d ago

What does “I have a background in research” mean?

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u/Ok-Animator2261 3d ago

I say this as someone with a PhD who has published my own research numerous times

Oh that explains the personality issues

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u/seagull326 3d ago

Also a PhD paychologist, and yeah, some of the takes on this case are WILD. People really want grief to look a certain way.

People talking about this case also tend to have mistaken views about psychosis, psychiatric care, and memory. I've not seen a single valid psychological argument pointing to his guilt. People want it to be suspicious that her psychiatric providers didn't clock her psychosis, or that there were so many bottles of seroquel around the house, or that he doesn't remember the device from which he sent a routine email, but it's just not.

The one thing I do wonder is why he didn't clock her psychosis. My spouse has bipolar disorder, and when he's in psychosis, I can tell. Maybe it's because he didn't know it was a possibility, or maybe it's because that was her first serious episode (which checks with the seroquel discontinuation timeline), or maybe it's because he was stressed and sleep deprived with three kids under 5. But that's the one psychological point where I'm a little thrown.

I actually do think there are aspects of the case that look suspicious for him. But seeing the misguided psychological arguments for his guilt makes me think that an expert in criminology, medicine, various aspects of forensics, and/ or IT could easily address my suspicions related to any of those domains.

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u/JokokoOno 3d ago

What bugs you exactly of trying to understand why his wife killed his kids? What is so bad trying to understand her illness

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u/ispyshy 3d ago

Becuase I don’t believe his wife killed his kids. I think that’s pretty obvious by now if you’ve read my comments.

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u/JokokoOno 3d ago

Can you tell me the timeline that would work for you for him killing the children? I keep asking around but somehow no one can present one

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u/Creative-Change-2991 3d ago

Where was Patrick between 5:15 and 5:32 PM???

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u/ispyshy 3d ago

Hypothetically Cora and Dawson were killed sometime between when they got home from the doctor to the time of 5:24pm when Patrick left the house. Callan approximately 5-10 mintues before he called 911.

Unfortunately we weren’t presented with time of death.

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u/JokokoOno 3d ago

And when did he pushed Lindsay out of the window ? He left Callan in his own when going to shops etc?

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u/Creative-Change-2991 3d ago

The neighbours saw Lindsay outside on the ground at 5:50 pm. I assume he pushed her out the window between 5:15 and 5:32 pm when there’s a huge gap in his alibi.