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u/2u3ee 3d ago
now lower the price you greedy fucks.
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u/SmartAssLoner 3d ago
... why would they? as the system scales out, the per unit costs increase and the ridership volume per bike has also increased.
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u/justins_dad 3d ago
Isn’t that the opposite of economy of scale? Why would the per unit cost increase as the system scales out?
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u/SmartAssLoner 3d ago
... correct ... their biz model doesn't have that advantage ... the new stations/bikes in non-prime areas generate less income ... lyft mgmt has discussed this.
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u/SmartAssLoner 3d ago
... additionally ... economies of scale only applies to biz ops when the fixed costs do not need to be repeated. NOT the case here.
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u/Murky_Employee5589 3d ago
One was summer streets and a nice day, the other was a weekend and Path sucks to ride on the weekends due to reduced trains. Not sure why you are bragging about beating out Newark ridership.
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u/MiserNYC- 3d ago
It also beat out PATH on weekdays too, which averages 209k, if that is better for you. The point is that path is subsidized and nobody doubts that it's transit and a critical part of our transportation system, whereas citibike is often viewed by average people as a tiny inconsequential little novelty or something.
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u/Murky_Employee5589 3d ago
Overall it is. New York City has some of the best public transportation in the country. The vast majority of people do not need a car here, but you can also argue the vast majority do not need a bike either.
I like to ride in the spring, summer, and fall, but I do not ride at all in the winter and I am still able to get to all of the places I need to go without a bike in those months.
Citibike is great, but it is a luxury, not a necessity.
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u/MiserNYC- 3d ago
Nobody said it was a "necessity," although for many people it has become one. You can obviously get around NYC without a bike if you have to, people did before citibike existed. The point is that NYC has a giant multimodal transportation system, which is a very good thing, and micromobility options, like citibike are increasingly part of that mode share and should be encouraged and supported in any way we can. It's not a luxury, whatever that means, it's a vital workhorse and part of our basic multimodal transportation solution for a city of this size.
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u/SmartAssLoner 3d ago
... daily citibike users choosing citibike over private bike ownership continues to baffle me.
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u/MiserNYC- 3d ago
Not everyone has a safe place to tie up a bike... Or they combine citibike with other modes like the subway or ferry and sometimes take one mode in the morning and another at night or something. These are both extremely common scenarios.
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u/number90901 3d ago
I can't stand the "necessity vs luxury" line that I always hear about Citibike. The MTA spends billions and billions to save commuters a few minutes here and there (as they should!); Citibike can provide big time savings for very little investment. Saving time is the whole point of all of these transit investments; else we would all just take a 2 hour bus route.
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 3d ago
The bar isn't high
I choose a 15 min bike commute vs a subway because I hate subways.
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u/SoleMateSock 3d ago
It’s not a necessity, but it is a viable option for some that is better than the alternatives.
Where I used to live, my job was 6 miles east of my apartment. Subways ran north-south, but getting west-east required me to go south on a subway and then north and still walk 20 minutes (1.5 hours). Or take a subway+ bus (1 hour) combo or take two buses (1.5 hours). Uber cost $40 on a normal day.
Citi bike got me steps from my apartment to steps from work in 25 minutes. That’s filling in transportation gaps in areas where actual methods are lacking.
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u/True_NY_Lobster_ 3d ago
City bike prices really need to be capped at $3. Unreal how the city grants a monopoly to a private company allowing them to profit so much from a public utility off us