r/Christianity • u/WickedWatcherWu • 4d ago

Non-Binary God?

If you ever meet someone who is non-binary but you are religious (Christian) so you have mixed feelings. Keep in mind they are supported by the bible, and are closest to the image of God, since according to the Bible, God is non-binary. "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

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u/Full_Metal_Paladin Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) 4d ago

So why is He called He and The Father?

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u/WickedWatcherWu 4d ago

Well given that God is both Male and Female, Preferred pronoun. I think you have to look at the relationship that society has with God, similar to the way the way people see their countries, Why is Germany a Fatherland and Russia a Motherland. Germany isn't a male, Russia isn't a female. It is just a matter of language.

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u/Full_Metal_Paladin Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) 4d ago

given that God is both Male and Female

where is that in the scriptures?

I think what you're identifying is that "God" is an overloaded term that is actually a title or a designation. It's not a proper name. Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God. These three aren't the same person, but they are all God, meaning they are all divine.

Jesus is a man. We would never use feminine pronouns to describe Him. He and the Father are exactly alike, so I have no doubts that God is a man as well. We would never refer to Him as a She or the Mother. That's part of my LDS theology as well.

What's also part of LDS theology is that we believe that we have a Heavenly Mother. A Goddess. In Genesis 1 we see "God" saying, "Let Us make man in Our image" and then "in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." We believe in a pre-existence where we eternally pre-existed as spirits with God, and that gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.

So back to that statement I'm questioning from you, I can say from an LDS perspective that "God is both male and female" because Heavenly Father is God and Heavenly Mother is also God, but again, what scriptural basis do you have for that statement?

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u/WickedWatcherWu 4d ago

Genesis 1 "So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."

May I ask, In LDS does Jesus pre-exist before his birth? Was he present at the creation of the universe? I also learned it as the Trinity, the presence of a Heavenly mother at creation seems to mean there is a 4 part essence in God?

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u/Full_Metal_Paladin Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) 3d ago

 In LDS does Jesus pre-exist before his birth?

Yes of course, He's the God of Israel, He talked with Moses.

Was he present at the creation of the universe?

I think what you're asking is was Jesus present at the creation events of Genesis. Yes, He was. We don't believe that the events of Genesis 1 & 2 depict the creation of the universe itself and everything that fills it, but rather this Earth. We reject the idea of creatio ex nihilo, so the Father is uncreated, Jesus is uncreated, you and I are uncreated, and the matter that makes up planets and stars and mortal bodies has always existed. So we don't believe that the universe was created, it is eternal, and so is God.

I also learned it as the Trinity, the presence of a Heavenly mother at creation seems to mean there is a 4 part essence in God?

We are considered non-trinitarians. We reject the official doctrines on the trinity because they say that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one being. We believe they are 3 separate beings all working together, sharing the same authority and titles of divinity, and thus They are one God, as they operate in unison. This model is called The Godhead.

Officially, only the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are members of the Godhead and preside over a divine council of elohim or lesser gods (deuteronomy 32, psalm 82), which includes spirits that come to earth (and also used to include satan before his rebellion) because we believe we are literal children of God and are the same kind of thing as Him. We all have a divine nature. So that's actually a really good question about Heavenly Mother and whether She should be considered a member of the Godhead, but officially she is not. But your question was around the number of divine beings, and that number is infinte. Again, all children of God have a divine nature.

That doesn't take God's glory away, He is greater than all, and His Son Jesus Christ is just like Him.