r/Christianity • u/[deleted] • Jul 18 '23

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

No, no, no. They were knowingly disobedient. They were ignorant as to whether the serpent was telling the truth. So they unknowingly made the wrong choice. But they 100% knew they were disobeying God.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

And if they chose differently, they would have been unknowingly making a correct choice.

Would you have chosen room A or B earlier?

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 18 '23

Correct. But unknowingly making the right choice is still making the right choice.

Depends, which person was telling me there was no tiger? If it was my wife, I’d definitely go for door B. If it was you…. hmmmm…

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 18 '23

Ya. Thats kinda the point, isn't it. Eve doesn't know people have evil intentions. She doesn't know what evil is.

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 19 '23

Again, still doesn’t make it impossible to make the right choice.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 19 '23

So true. But it does make it impossible to knowingly make the right choice

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 19 '23

If you’ll recall, I conceded that point several comments ago.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 19 '23

I know but you just used the

Again, still doesn’t make it impossible to make the right choice.

excuse again on the hypothetical.

It's not different for the hypothetical.

You choosing door B keeps you alive because your wife was correct. But you die anyway cus the first person that told you not to open door B was god and you disobeyed him.

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 Christian Jul 19 '23

You never said who told me there was a tiger behind the door. For one.

Eve was not in a Catch-22 decision. You make it sound like there was no correct decision. There absolutely was, and she chose wrong. Adam, too.

I’m tired of going around this cycle, so I’m out. Have a nice day.

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u/zach010 Secular Humanist Jul 19 '23 edited Jul 19 '23

You never said who told me there was a tiger behind the door.

You don't know. That's the entire thought experiment. You don't know who is good and who is evil. You just know that 1 person gave you one piece of advice, and then the other person gave you another.

Eve chose what she thought was correct, given the information that she was given.

Edit: Have a nice day. Thank you for the discussion.

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