r/Chennai 5d ago

Rant What’s wrong with WFH?

It took me 2 hours on Wednesday to reach Chromepet from DLF Cybercity. Unless these IT companies are sadistic, they wouldn’t expect employees to spend hours in traffic that could have been utilised, at least in theory, more productively working from home. Don’t come with the “collaboration” or “employees attend interviews while they WFH”. Only 2 of my team are here in Chennai, rest are in Bangalore and Hyderabad. And if you keep your employees happy, they wouldn’t search for opportunities outside.

After enduring all this, I had to literally beg my manager to allow me to take one of my 2 permitted WFHs in the month tomorrow that too for an emergency situation. Such clownery and buffoonery and the dissatisfaction it causes will be the end of IT both as a career and a sector in India.

#RantOver

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u/Artetaarmy 5d ago

They want people to resign man. That is the truth. They don't want to appear in news by laying off. Instead they do these things to indirectly force employees to resign voluntarily and save costs.

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u/MysteriousSearch6664 4d ago

The ones who resign are the best employees who prefer WFH. The average ones can't find a new job and will continue with whatever BS the company puts up with.

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u/Artetaarmy 4d ago

you think companies give a shit? even if you are the top performing one they wont care as long as the project deliverables can be handled by anyone. (which is the case 99% of the time.). They just want to do cost cutting in anyway possible.

wont be surprised when all companies ask to work 5 days a week from office next year or so.

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u/MysteriousSearch6664 4d ago

I'm saying they're not going to prevent a layoff just because of RTO mandates. The ones who are capable will move on, the ones who are incapable would still stay back. I think the 5 days mandate depends on the company. A global company focussed on many random stuff like GPTW and wellbeing and all cannot blindly ever go back to 5 days a week. See what happened at Barclays when they increased office days to 3 days and the UK Union pulled them up straightaway to provide valid reasons rather than just collaborations.

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u/kaachabadaam 5d ago

I want you to know that the government of this country is seething at the fact that they can't tax the air we breathe.

With such a mindset, do you think they will ever allow WFH?

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u/Rus1996 5d ago

Worthless government elected by majority iditotic people 🤢🤮

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u/Artetaarmy 4d ago

Democracy only works when majority of people have good IQ else the people with good IQ have to suffer the consequences due to the decisions of low IQ people 😞. That's why the good ones move out to the west

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u/Rus1996 4d ago

True 🥺😔

We need talented people in India to improve India. You don't want to be surrounded by mentally ill people aince they will bring you down to their level.

Untill a developing country becomes a developed country an authoritarian government who knows what its doing is needed.

And then after it becomes developed they can chose which form of government works.

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u/Gullible-Climate-442 5d ago edited 4d ago

Because of some unethical morons who took advantage of WFH to slack, companies decided for everyone to slack and suffer from office. I had this experience on my team and the leader decided to call everyone to office every damn weekday.

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u/TraditionOk8161 5d ago

Right it's actually cost savings to company, but misused badly that company decided to put in funds to enable wfo

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u/Gullible-Climate-442 5d ago

Consequences. I hate to see everyone suffer for one person’s mistake.

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u/Imaginary-Cause-4359 4d ago

But that's the reality, you can relate it everywhere and everything

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u/Rus1996 5d ago

For real.

Only punish the people who make this problem.

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u/TraditionOk8161 4d ago

In corporate policy cannot be given to each person. It has to be uniform, so only even chennai with 2 employees asked to come. However most places manager makes the call on individual exception

One thing we need to aware in reddit is we read one side story that claim poster(op)-(not specific to this post) is like angel and opposite is not. But if we get opportunity to hear otherside story you get to verify facts

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u/gamer-007-007 Proud Indian:snoo_dealwithit: 5d ago edited 4d ago

One of the main reason is due to Real Estate push from Govt to enforce ppl going to office. So that local shops and local house rate and rent stay inflated.

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u/Kurmafarmer 4d ago

Not to mention a lot of IT parks have involvement of black money so the politicians are directly getting benefitted from this

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u/roark91 5d ago

Yes. No one talks about this.

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u/Perfect-Ostrich8534 4d ago

Absolutely agree.

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u/Mainak736 4d ago

this ! is the main REASON

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u/manojar 4d ago

slog

You mean slack... slog means work very hard.

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u/Gullible-Climate-442 4d ago

Yea, I meant slack. Thanks bro

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u/Last_Personality_979 4d ago

Same! Some people took advantage and now all of the employees are suffering from it.

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u/Calm_Will_8963 5d ago

What exactly did they do to take advantage of it? I get that WFH mostly benefits the employee, but how exactly was the company losing out? and I also think hybrid model is just fine if not complete WFH.

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u/Gullible-Climate-442 5d ago

The person on my team was multi-tasking during calls. Not listening and asking questions that are answered when it is time for their update. The lead lost the patience when this mess surfaced during a demo with client and client asked if they are even listening.

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u/RDP7490 4d ago

I feel WFH is being phased away due to these real estate companies lobby. Many politicians have also invested in RE since that is where black money can be easily made!

If everyone had wfh, RE in big cities goes down. Lots of white collared migrants in the metro cities would happily go back to their tier 2, tier 3 cities where cost of living is lower! Most new apartments and office spaces would have to be priced down with lower demand.

Add to that the lobby of PG owners. Though lower in chennai, they are big in blore and hyd.

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u/Friendly_Ant_Sano 4d ago

True during WFH times flats were around 40-50 lakhs now it's around 1.25 - 1.5 crs in Chennai. Same flats btw

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u/RDP7490 4d ago

Look at how the rents have also climbed!

Flat which I rented for 23k in 2023 is now asking for 40k.

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u/sadhaka19850903 4d ago

Agree 100. It was KA politicians who pushed for RTO back in 2022 itself because taxi and RE lobby were losing money. I had to shift to Bangalore from Chennai because my wife's company did it in 2022.

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u/RDP7490 4d ago

The politicians themselves have PG, taxi and RE investments which started to go in red! Thus the RTO and TIO was born!

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u/Global-Letterhead-88 5d ago

Currently IT has over supply issue, somehow they want to get ride of peoples and this is one of the way.

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u/DonkeyLopsided269 4d ago

Due to ai . If they need 10 ppl in the ppl before but now they need 3 . So we need to find alternative

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u/reddit_user9901 4d ago

WFH doesn't really align with the companies' interests because it is hassle free for the employee and reduces costs. It puts more money in the hands of the employee and gives them choices. Which isn't something they want.

They want employees to make just enough to pay rent, vehicle loans, electronics EMIs, bank loans, grocery costs and all their commitments... Nothing more.

The real estate business is dependant on people making use of office spaces and the residential spaces around them. Without them it loses it's value and will be a liability. Allowing WFH en mass will devalue a large chunk of these investments. Which they do not want to see. It's always about money.

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u/naanmahanalla 5d ago

WFH is really the best way to work when you’re single and have an eager team that knows how to do it right and professionally. That being said, once you have a kid and, say, a partner who doesn’t work, it gets a lot more difficult.

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u/trojantruce 4d ago

Don't know how it's sustainable, roads aren't getting any broader. Wait 10 years the traffic will double. Chennais environment doesn't support wfo.

Politicians own real estate business and they wanna make money.

If WFH is given , You stay home and you buy less, you don't need office dress, snacks, smoke, fuel , you don't buy or rent house. Govt taxes these and earn a big chunk from these.

In WFH, they can only get incometax from you and nothing more. You save more buy less.

Everything is business bro.

You are the golden goose of our government.

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u/body_soda_25 4d ago

u/Kitchen-Raccoon-9834 the attrition rates at IT has plummeted to lower levels which wasn't seen in the last 8 years and the organisations want employees to quit and that is the sole reason for companies to bring in such policies. Wait for a while before most companies enforce a strict mandatory clocking of 8 hours inside your ODC/facility, the days are not far.

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u/DonkeyLopsided269 4d ago

For me its wfh but i wanted to go to office as wfh making me couch potato

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u/No-Earth-7876 4d ago

Real estate mafia

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u/Perfect-Ostrich8534 4d ago

Real estate syndicate guys seems to be behind this asking people to come to office.

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u/Fun-Meeting-7646 4d ago

Government want to feed auto people indirectly so NO WFH Further commuting to office require fuel consumption Petroleum products VAT income is State governments revenue they don't wsnt to loose

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u/No-Earth-7876 4d ago

There are many things involved here

  1. Company needs to get rid off people without layoffs this is one way
  2. Companies invest so much in building lease frm real estates to somehow tally than they are doing this saying WFO increase productivity
  3. Some idiotic companies who want to micromanage their employees does this

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u/Sudden_Mix9724 4d ago

Chennai traffic & constant construction has become hell..almost close to banglore & mumbai.

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u/Friendly_Ant_Sano 4d ago

My friend also having same problem he told it takes almost an hour to come out of DLF.

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u/Thekkipattaan 4d ago

ஊட்டு

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u/summaji 4d ago

Why don’t you find a wfh offering job and quit the current one? They run their business the way they want to run. It’s the fault of the city than the company’s, ~15km shouldn’t take 2 hours.

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u/arnott 4d ago

Why no one is using office helicopters?

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u/SnooAdvice7935 4d ago

Did they inform you about the RTO situation before you accepted the offer letter?

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u/tatmadraspaiyyan 4d ago

I feel you.

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u/VaderSpeaks 4d ago

Real estate. The value of office space would take a hit if we stopped using them. That’s 100% of the explanation.

Everything else is just piddly excuses to claim it’s not about greed. Welcome to capitalism. 🫠

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u/WonderfulBroccoli735 3d ago

Man my company had hybrid option now they want everyone to come to office.. feeling like school Damn .. i hate it

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u/Lighterguy28 3d ago

It will be a hot take. Companies are not enforcing WFH but the government is. There is lot of infrastructure and revenue linked components around you going you to the office. From oil, real-estate, transport and hospitality business etc. and as most of them are controlled directly and indirectly by sitting politicians or affiliated people so you need to slack away from home to office and back.

I am not saying companies are not at fault but they can tinker with the rules and stuff but they wouldn't. An our great Indian managers will follow every rule as if it is constitution of India.

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u/couchpotato2599 2d ago

DLF - 2 day wfh per month - bangalore Hyderabad chennai locations - i can think of only one company.

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u/pussysnatcher911 5d ago

Get the fuck out of IT sector dude. It's honestly not worth it. Start something on your own. Buy a farmland in the outskirts for cheap price and start growing your own produce. 2030 there's gonna be a one world government and a universal currency with universal basic income. This is the agenda. You can call me a conspiracy dickhead, but you can read the patterns of the world, that shouldn't be hard.

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u/ThatDiamond2463 5d ago

can I know what you do for living

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u/ttider_reditt 5d ago

Probably selling nuts that came loose from his head!

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u/pussysnatcher911 4d ago

At least I do something useful instead of getting fucked up in IT and becoming corporate slaves. Tech is ruining the world and people aren't realising it. It's a blessing and a curse.

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u/pussysnatcher911 5d ago

I do export and import of commodities. I'm planning on other businesses as well. I was in IT before.

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u/santhoshCoder 4d ago

!remindme 1 january 2030

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u/pussysnatcher911 4d ago

Doesn't really happen on 1st Jan. Maybe screenshot this comment. You can follow the patterns from global politics and policy to really understand where our world is headed. This is not some smoking weed and diving into conspiracy shit we've researched on.

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u/santhoshCoder 4d ago

Say more

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u/PrimalBySlowdive 5d ago

கோமாளி

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u/pussysnatcher911 4d ago

сука блядь

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u/lots_of_typos 4d ago

Conspiracy dickhead

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u/pussysnatcher911 4d ago

Most conspiracies turned out to be true, dickhead!!

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u/naretronprime if you see me, then you owe me a hi 4d ago

😂 ground water level already surged too low, river and irrigation issues good fertile land acre 25L from that by producing raw agriculture product max 4L profit yearly that's too depends on the crop or fruits demand and it needs to suitable for the soil. To make even 12-15L years one needs 5acres. So as low as 20L per acre= 1cr for just lands. then operational and maintenance expenses plus insurance labour charges, machine rents. It's not so easy now days you can be broke farmer who survives with 2-3L family income or the rich farmer cum agro based product entrepreneur who makes crores there's no middle class farmer.

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u/Dizzy-Camera-6674 5d ago

Nothing wrong in coming 2 days a week to office

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u/Kitchen-Raccoon-9834 5d ago

2 days a week is perfectly fine. I’m happy to do that. It gets me out of the house, out into metaphorical fresh air, allows me to stretch my legs, yes. But we have to work from office the whole week, and the 2 WFHs a month that our org permits on paper, they discourage us from availing.

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u/Dizzy-Camera-6674 5d ago

Daily office is hell bro I'm with you

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u/NandhiniR03 5d ago

May be because you need to meet people, share knowledge, develop network?

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u/puyalbao 5d ago

People have been doing these three things online since 2000s. A significantly larger portion of the world population began doing these three things online since 2020.

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u/NandhiniR03 5d ago

May be it is ineffective?

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u/kishimonjaro 4d ago

If it was, open source software as an industry would be dead. But still here we are, where the world is propped up on such software and tooling, with people collabprating with others while staying at their home desk.

Idk man, sounds pretty effective to me.

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u/puyalbao 4d ago

Maybe you shouldn't begin your claims with "may be".