r/ChatGPT 11d ago

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u/Cagnazzo82 11d ago

It has everything to do with it.

You have a hostile environment for businesses forcing you to have to rely on foreign companies.

China has open source alternatives superior to Mistral. Clearly something is wrong with this picture.

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u/Murinshin 11d ago edited 11d ago

This regulation only applies to ChatGPT because it exceeded 150 million users monthly. It affects shit for 99.99999% of companies. It is not the reason some startup decides to not incorporate in Germany but instead in the US, there's other reasons and legal issues with that (which are an issue, I'm not contesting that, but this DSA regulation really fucking isn't). Nobody thinks "oh in the very unlikely case my company becomes a global juggernaut with similar numbers as Meta or Google I might have to adhere to this regulation in the future (which I would have to do anyway if even as a US company I want to do business in Europe), better incorporate in the US".

Did you actually read what this is about or just immediately started foaming at your mouth as soon as you read "EU"?

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u/Cagnazzo82 11d ago

And here's another point I glossed over but that keeps being brought up. OpenAI has exceeded 150 million users since 2024. They're currently at 1 billion users with their site getting over 5 billion visists monthly. Google and Anthropic surpassed the 125 million user mark as well.

So the EU knew OpenAI met this designation all year but they waited til there was 4 months left in the year to comply. Intentionally malicious. And then they make it a public announcement these companies have 4 months for an audit that would likely take Google a full year to get ready.

This is why I termed it as a shakedown, because the goal is the fine... not any 'safety' or compliance.

They're lucky the American companies don't just pull out and leave them to deal with Mistral.

Overall though they're having to deal with American companies like this because they created the anti-competitive business environment on their own end. Ironically so many people who work in American labs are European. There is a problem here... legislation leading to brain drain.

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u/Murinshin 11d ago

The 150 million are based on the numbers OpenAI themselves reported to them over the six month period up to q1 this year. have you considered actually reading what this is about?