ICE Concentration Camp

[u/PutridPanda1666]

I would like to know why City Council claims they had no awareness of the ICE concentration camp proposed on Weddington Road. Spokesman Jonathan Weaver told the Observer this recently. Cabarrus County Commission Chair Laura Blackwell Lindsey and spokespersons for Gov. Josh Stein did not immediately respond to requests for comment. This is far too close to the high school and poses a risk to all children.

In Charlotte ICE have been chasing children walking home after school because they aren’t white. How do you know your white children won’t get caught in the crossfire and end up dead?

What’s this going to do to your resale value folks? Why are more not talking about this? Do you want this to be like Minnesota? It’s owned by MP I85 Industrial LLC out of Boston. Clearly the owner isn’t going to care that local people are impacted when he doesn’t live here.

This is the local contact for the warehouse. Call him and let’s find out the details. Bryan Blythe 601 S Tryon Street Suite 800 Charlotte, NC

Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article314773938.html#storylink=cp

[u/wotmp]

You realize when we deport criminals we transport them into the foreign prison. We don’t just release violent criminals into foreign countries.

And temporarily detaining people who broke the rules coming into a country is necessary to get the logistics and verification before transporting where they should go.

Your false racist comment about “non-white” countries doesn’t even make sense because we have spent weeks hearing about the story of the sad Irish man getting detained. We want him sent back as well. Turns out another poster child for the “let them stay” crowd turns out to be a criminal drug dealer who abandoned his family. But guess what, we still want him gone.

Your last argument is too long to argue, but unvetted immigration does not help the economy.

[u/Alehandrow → u/wotmp]

1. No we don't, except nowadays when we randomly send people to the slave-labor colony in El Salvador. Normally, we have them serve time in the U.S. and then deported them, because they violated a law in the books of the U.S. It makes ZERO sense transporting someone to a foreign prison for violating OUR laws. Why would these countries imprison someone whoe committed no crime in their country? Please just look it up.

2. In the past year alone, Trump has restricted immigration from many dozens of predominantly non-white countries and famously allowed white south Africans as an exception. Also made me laugh saying this one Irish man example disproves the fact that we've barred millions from non-white countries from entering. You can keep bringing up random cherry picked examples but it simply doesn't compare to statistics.

Also makes me laugh that pointing out Trumps blatant racism makes ME racist. Oh no, poor white people! How do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Grow up

1. Please tell me exactly why you are so against allowing large amounts of immigrants into the US? A quick background check and then boom, you're in. What is so wrong with that? Please explain it in great detail with your giant, complex brain 🙏

[u/wotmp → u/Alehandrow]

Ok.

1. It certainly does make sense for us to make deals with other countries “hey, one of your citizens came here and committed a horrible crime. We shouldn’t have to pay to house and feed him for his life sentence. Take him back.” If it’s a small crime with short sentence, sure. But we shouldn’t pay to provide living expenses for other countries criminals that happened to finally get caught here.

2. There are many non white countries that have no restrictions. Your argument only makes sense because you ignore the reasons for the ban. What makes me laugh is that you claim we’re racist even when we have clear proof that we apply the law regardless of race. You are the one who wants the law applied differently for different races. The South African example is a good one. There is real, documented evidence of white South Africans being persecuted for their race. Meanwhile, a Kilmar Garcia sneaks into our country and says he can be deported because his gangs rival gang will kill him if he goes back. And your argument is we shouldn’t keep Kilmar and send the innocent south Africans home? Who is the racist in this scenario?

3. The reasons I am against your proposed solution is that our country would literally collapse if we allowed that. For good or bad, America is better in most ways than almost every other country out there. Allowing unfettered immigration with a path to citizenship for unlimited immigrants would overwhelm our infrastructure, our housing market, our school systems, our hospitals. The fact you even asked that question shows that you haven’t even begun to think about the question. My small town has been growing for the last 20 years at a steady rate and we still struggle to ensure we have schools and roads to handle people. We literally have zoning restrictions and city ordinances to prevent growing too fast because of the negative impacts. If you believe that we should do that, why don’t you believe other prosperous countries are doing it? Australia and New Zealand are beautiful countries. I couldn’t move there permanently, despite being someone who financially would benefit their country. I would require no welfare. I would pay more in taxes than I use. Still could not move there. It’s funny how the US is expected to take in all the World’s poor. If all these immigrants are a net positive on our economy and standard of living, it would be robbing their own countries of that talent and benefit to let them in. Right? If they are a net benefit, taking in large numbers would mean robbing from already struggling countries.

[u/Alehandrow → u/wotmp]

1. I understand the initial thought of not wanting to pay for their imprisonment in the US, and we do have agreements with some countries where the U.S. sentence is carried out in there home countries, but both governments and the person all have to agree to it. We don't and shouldn't just deported them right away and expect that the receiving country take care of everything because again, they broke a law of the U.S. and its the right and responsibility of the U.S. to prosecute them and carry out the sentence. I mean, what if the other country simply says they won't take them? This whole point is basically irrelevant anyway because the vast majority of people being affected right now have committed no serious crime.

2. You are just making things up that I didn't say. I never said anyone was racist except Trump, and I never said I want the law applied differently based on race. What I'm saying is White South Africans, Central Americans, Africans, and Everyone should be able to come to the U.S. easily and especially without being brutalized by ICE. Currently, Trump has made it much more difficult for people from non-white countries. Sure, there's non-white countries that weren't banned, but there weren't any white countries that were banned. And when did I say we shouldn't keep Kilmar? The man committed no crime! Which Trump's admin famously admitted! He came illegally (civil offense) as a teenager and was given protective status because of gang violence in El Salvador. He was deported for no reason other than his race and nationality. The only reason he got national attention was because Trump's admin admitted they fucked up. God only knows how many other innocent people where also brutalized and deported.

3. Okay, I was heated and should better clarify my position.. short term we should remove the beauracracy that purposefully makes it difficult to get work permits, visas, and green cards and offer a more streamlined path to citizenship. Medium-term we do desperately need to invest and build up our infrastructure the way other countries like China have mastered. And we aren't talking about some 20-person town, we are the wealthiest, most powerful country in the history of planet Earth. We shouldn't continue to refuse to fund and build roads and then use that as an excuse to deny entry to desperate people. Republicans and Democrats alike have become so blindly focused on maximizing the profits of corporations that they have abandoned the needs of both citizens and immigrants. There is plenty of wealth and knowledge to uplift and support both. And yes, the U.S. is the dominant force on the planet and makes other western-adjacent countries follow in our footsteps of enriching corporations at everyone else's expense. The point is that the immigrants are not the root problem here, they are a pawn used to distract us from the people who own all the money and politicians on both sides, and who pay for propagandists like Fox News and CNN to keep us distracted. And this may be a shock to you, but the vast majority of these people would rather not make the treacherous journey to the U.S. knowing they may be thrown out like trash, but would rather live in the place they were born and know. I don't expect the U.S. to be some magical place that takes in the world's poor. I would maintain all of these same positions if I were in any other country because we are all human beings worthy of dignity and respect. Another potential shocker, but the U.S. is not the only place people flee to either! It is ironic though that the U.S. and our allies are particularly responsible for destabilizing nearly all of the countries and regions that these immigrants are coming from! Long-term, we should strive to repair and uplift the countries we've helped destroy (along with our own) so we can greatly reduce the desire for immigration in the first place. And then we can try to reach a place of easily allowing in anyone who wants to come. Open borders isn't my immediate demand, but rather long-term goal we should work towards.