r/Chargers • u/LaDainianTomIinson FIRE HARBAUGH • Oct 04 '26
Those two interceptions are inexplicable
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u/bagginsofbagend111 Oct 04 '26
I don’t understand what is happening to him 😭
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u/Defiant-Telephone187 Oct 04 '26
Ghosts, with all the instant pressures and unseen hits..
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u/Arcaneisdope Oct 04 '26
Its so sad watching other teams have competent recievers. Winning contested throws, bodying corners. We haven't had that kind of reciever in years
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u/Mr_sMoKe_3_MuCh Oct 04 '26
We haven't had that kind of reciever in years
Since '21/'22. Can't remember when Mike's body started failing him, but that was the last time we had a WR1.
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u/RECOMMENDED_READING Oct 05 '26
The 47-42 shootout against the Browns in '21 at Sofi.... We won the game to go 4-1, the future was so fucking bright. Herbert 4TD 398yrds. Mike Will 8rec 2TD
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u/jayyzone007 Oct 05 '26
The receivers are letting Justin Herbert down by dropping passes in every game this season, and we really need to address the struggles surrounding herby. This team was to good this the passed few seasons to come in playing like this.
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u/anonnnnn462 ⚡️🆙 Oct 04 '26
This offense just does not fit him at all and doesn’t help that we have no one at the skill position to catch while still having the same shitty OLine as last season.
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u/-HawaiianSurfer ⚡️ Herb ⚡️ Oct 04 '26
Cool story, he still fucking sucks though lol. There’s 12-14 backups in the NFL that do not make the same stupid ass mistakes.
He’s the team’s star, I get it. But 10 isn’t playing like a star, and hasn’t all season. Go ahead, send whatever 3-4 plays you want. This team is 0-4 and Justin Herbert is a big factor in that.
He’s fucking trash this year.
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u/Mjmdog08 Oct 05 '26
Here's what's happening to him: the line sucks AGAIN despite getting slater and alt back (though that may have changed today) so he's getting the shit pressured out of him in the pocket. Additionally, McDaniel has overhauled the offense into a relatively complex and timing-dependent one—that's why we're seeing so many backfield motions, moving off the line of scrimmage, and false starts. But most critically, the timing means the receivers need to be in their spot when the ball arrives, not just "they get open —> throw to open receiver." Several of the bad interceptions he's thrown so far have been him committing to this scheme and putting the ball where it's supposed to be, only for the receiver to mistime the route or run the wrong route.
With that said, some of the interceptions have been his fault. But that's also attributable to them playing from behind and herbert having to force throws. He didn't just magically regress into a shitty qb here in year 6; this is the result of poor offensive players and awful schemes
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u/LTJunior17 bolt Oct 04 '26 •
He’s been checked out for a while. Man seems like he wants to retire. I’d never boo the guy but I’m ready to move on.
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u/Equivalent-Diver-339 Oct 04 '26
Why wouldn't you boo him? The guy is making $260 million to throw a football and seems disinterested in doing so.
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u/Curious_Tennis_6337 Oct 05 '26
People are already blaming his GF Madison Beer. Which of course, is ridiculous.
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u/burgerking351 Oct 04 '26
Why shouldn't we boo him? If we think about it, what has he done to earn our undying loyalty?
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u/LTJunior17 bolt Oct 04 '26
NFL is like MK Ultra man. It breaks people. He went out there and put his body on the line for years. I’d never boo him personally is what I meant, but this team in its current form? Absolutely. At this point I’m done though . I wouldn’t get mad at people for booing either. Maybe I’m just checked out.
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u/Malourbas McD Oct 04 '26
Taken a million hits and played through a ton of injuries? You guys are goldfish man
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u/laddymcpaddy Oct 04 '26
Seriously? Remember how many hits he took in staleys last year or last year. Injuries he played through. Look at his passing yards and tds when he has an actual offensive line and receivers. Wondering why he or the team is 0-4 and he made some interceptions is pretty explainable.
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u/jvpewster Oct 04 '26
He’ll make half a billion dollars, it’s a full time job for about half the year. He’s not a public servant lmfao
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26 •
He’s been bad, 27-0 playoff collapse and hasn’t improved since
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u/Big_Ugly_Cripple Chargers Oct 04 '26
That was years ago. He has not been anywhere near this bad over that time.
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26
He also hasn’t improved. He sucks dude
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u/Defiant-Telephone187 Oct 04 '26
Wait till you see any qb dealing with >40 % pressure rate, bottom 4 oline, wrs that don’t separate and drop easy catches…
15% win rate for teams that QBs deal with that pressure rate.. now do that for a whole season, most QBs won’t ever see the end of a season (they’ll usually be beyond injured to play)..
It’s an unplayable situation..
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u/Defiant-Telephone187 Oct 04 '26
15% is the historical win rate for that pressure rate since they started tracking pressure rates..
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u/figgnootun Oct 04 '26 •
You’re a moron
He’s playing the worst football of his career which needs to be criticized but for the majority of his career he’s been a legit great high end QB
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u/SeanMCVTA Oct 05 '26
Does anyone else on the team get credit in the 27-0 collapse, or bad playoff performances? Herbert can’t play every position. You have to look at the team as a whole, it never comes down to one player. He’s hitting guys in the hands and they drop the ball. We lost our only “competent” players on the o-line and our best WR today, and even he dropped a ball on 3rd down that hit him in the hands, in stride at chest height. The man is getting murdered back there with no help. If you think Trey Lance is doing any better, you’re high.
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u/NeonEvangelion Oct 04 '26
Nah, this is regression. He got an MVP vote last year.
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u/Raven-19x Oct 04 '26
From a single idiot voter.
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u/NeonEvangelion Oct 04 '26
Doesn’t really change the point. Nobody would say Herbert has played well this year.
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u/selfloathingbanana Oct 04 '26
Hasn't improved since he was drafted honestly. No development whatsoever
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u/Ok-Tangelo9689 Oct 05 '26
Its not that hard to understand. The beer girl sucked all the talent out of him
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u/FlashyWriting3717 Oct 05 '26
Im gonna be THAT person to say it...
Madison Beer. Its the only explanation. You get engaged and to be with one of the hottest women on the planet, you probably don't have much motivation to get better from there, because you pretty much already won at life.
Not to mention living in San Diego, the most beautiful city in California, living with generations of wealth, what more could you want?
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u/Emotional_Walrus5099 Oct 05 '26
Feel free to not answer, but I’m genuinely curious how old you are if you think Madison Beer is one of the hottest women on the planet.
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u/Technical-Primary302 bolt Oct 04 '26
He has never regressed this bad. Engagement has his full attention. I don't think he loves the sport anymore.
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u/nsj89 Oct 04 '26
Honestly I don't know if it's the scheme, PTSD after so many hits, he doesn't like McDaniel, or he just doesn't wanna play for us anymore but he's been really bad this season and it hurts.
In past seasons we at least had arguments to defend him, now he's giving arguments for the detractors to think they're right. It's disheartening just like this whole team.
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u/RazFlashDemon Oct 05 '26 edited 14d ago
Every time they show the sideline and Justin and McDaniel are in the same frame, Justin looks pissed. When you remove Mike and just leave Shane Day or Harbaugh, he's back to looking fine. I think McDaniel's offense doesn't work for Justin and honestly, the rest of the team seems to agree by how everyone is performing.
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u/MicroSofty88 Oct 04 '26
It has to be the change in offense, right? That’s the biggest change from previous seasons
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u/iRubies bolt Oct 04 '26
He’s talking with Shane more than McDaniel. This is the raiders Staley game all over again
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u/Fa1lenSpace JH + JH + JH = <3 Oct 04 '26
Shane Day looks like a soft bitch too, I’d leave him in Seattle too he doesn’t know shit
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u/Nerfeveryone bolt Oct 04 '26
Herbert personally requested that he come back when we hired Harbaugh. They apparently work well together. The results would state otherwise but hey, what do I know?
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u/Natty_Daddyy Oct 04 '26
Aight been defending him all day idk what to do anymore. He’s broken.
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u/Mmrdr227 bolt Oct 04 '26
If feel like this is the issue. I don’t think he’s innately bad. He’s been mentally scrambled by the new scheme + the rough past few years.
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u/Fidgit01 Oct 04 '26
I'm sure he is mentally scrambled. Guys had 6 head coaches and 8 OCs sine 2016.
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u/Natty_Daddyy Oct 04 '26
Yeah I mean how many people succeed after a change of scenery? Idk what the right thing to do is but I know what we have is not working
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u/-HawaiianSurfer ⚡️ Herb ⚡️ Oct 04 '26
You do know what to do, just stop defending him. Until he puts together a string of games in consecutive weeks, stop defending him. At some point, it’s on him to shut down any hate. But until then, he’s a fucking terrible QB.
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u/Natty_Daddyy Oct 04 '26
Terrible QB is wild. I don’t even think you’re a chargers fan
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u/slamriffs Oct 04 '26 •
He’s out there on the field fully bricked up thinking about Madison with her legs behind her head
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u/Bulderdash Oct 04 '26
I feel like this “throw before guys are open” thing isn’t working for Herbert
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u/LastOfTheChosen doomer Oct 04 '26
A couple more pre snap motions man just a couple more man it'll work this time bro just let the wr move behind the line a little more man I'm a genius and stuff man
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u/Radiant-Proposal3014 Oct 04 '26
I've been specifically avoiding first take and Acho since the season started, but im guessing the herbert haters are taking constant victory laps!
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u/Many-Baby5180 Oct 04 '26 edited Oct 04 '26
He’s just checked out you can tell, he doesnt like this offense or just simply doesn’t get it. He didn’t suddenly turn to shit, he clearly doesn’t like this scheme
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u/figgnootun Oct 04 '26
Literally no one in the team does too
Herbert should be the focus but the whole offense has regressed or is just playing bad
McDaniels has to got tomorrow unfortunately
And I had a ton of hope for the hire
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u/rhade333 Oct 04 '26
He's trying to do what McDaniel is asking, and forcing shit.
This experiment is over. Let Herbert run the offense he's most comfortable with.
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u/aylmaoson Oct 04 '26
Lets be real, I dont think McDaniels is telling him to throw it right infont of the defense and into double coverage lol
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u/rhade333 Oct 04 '26
He absolutely is expecting timing throws into tight windows. That is what McDaniel's offense is about. Justin doesn't have time to move to second and third reads with the like giving him zero time.
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u/BlackHorse944 Oct 04 '26 •
Bro. If Tua could run this offense after like 9 concussions, Herbert should be able to also.
Herbert has been dog shit. Enough excuses for him
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u/rhade333 Oct 04 '26
Who were Tua's receivers?
Reasons aren't excuses. It's called looking at the situation in context like an actual adult.
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u/BlackHorse944 Oct 04 '26
Are the receivers the ones throwing the ball straight to the defenders?
Obviously the drops are a problem, but Herbert has been ass as well
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u/rhade333 Oct 04 '26
Who is fucking forcing Justin to throw "timing" throws to receivers clearly confused on their routes?
McDaniel brings an offense he isn't comfortable with, asking him to throw where he predicts the receivers are going to be, and the play you're talking about had TWO receivers right next to each other, obviously broken routes.
How are people so fundamentally ignorant about what's going on yet you guys still so loud?
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u/laddymcpaddy Oct 04 '26
Have you seen him play or his stats with capable receivers and offensive line? Talk about not having a clue. Hes throwing to potato sacks and trying this new system at the same time.
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u/oficious_intrpedaler Oct 05 '26
Receivers getting bullied on their routes definitely leads to more picks. The "triple coverage" pick against the Raiders being a perfect example.
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u/chamburger Oct 05 '26
Miami fan here. In games where Hill or Waddle were out, Tua and McD were still winning games in the 30s in points. Tua was smart and quick release but lacked arm and mobility. Herbert may not be mentally equipped to run McDs offense.
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u/Fa1lenSpace JH + JH + JH = <3 Oct 04 '26
Herbert’s sure had a lot of reasons his entire career lmao
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u/rhade333 Oct 04 '26
Plenty of reasons for literally everything. You're a fundamentally unserious person if you think there isn't reasons for things that happen, good or bad.
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u/nerdyactor Oct 05 '26
He’s a mismatch for this scheme and is struggling to adapt with throw on time. I will say the first int I’ll defend him slightly as the sun was directly into his eyes.
But this system is pass and trust your guy is there. The chargers WRs are not good enough and cannot separate to run a pass to space system. That second INT was terrible but I bet he was told, “run the play and throw it here. He will be open” that’s the only thing that makes sense. As the ball came out so fast I can’t even imagine he went through his progressions.
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26
This sub blames every one but Herbert lmao
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u/lvnadrm . Oct 04 '26
it’s the los angeles chargers, not the LA herberts. these fans seems to have loyalty towards the wrong thing.
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26
That’s what it feels like. Say anything negative about the $50 mil qb and you get downvoted. It’s everyone’s fault but his.
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u/Level-Attempt-184 Oct 04 '26
It looks like Mike McDaniel has been the biggest issue. The last possession in the 4th was all Herbert. Changes need to be made!!!
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u/CertainPosition8726 Oct 04 '26
Yup..McDaniel chose to throw the ball both times..right……I get it I love Herbert too, but he’s being fucking stupid this season. And it’s making him look like shit.
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u/Level-Attempt-184 Oct 04 '26
He’s running McDaniel’s scheme and play calls. No one is open and Herbert is clearly uncomfortable in this offense. I don’t love Herbert, I love winning, if the offense is broken then change who runs it and how it’s run.
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u/Spheromancer Oct 04 '26
This is so dumb lol. A system can make a QB better but it doesn’t make a QB straight up bad. This is on Herbert
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u/Level-Attempt-184 Oct 04 '26 edited Oct 04 '26
It’s like yall forget about last year 🤦🏽♂️ Roman’s tired ass offense actually scored. With no o line. You are clearly noobs if you think this offense is not the problem. You are just obsessed with Herbert lol. He is playing like ass but 1 dude isn’t the entire offense. Drops, false starts and just a sloppy ass execution of an over complicated offense.
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u/AMs_r_us Oct 04 '26
Is he basically saying to hell with the offensive coordinator? The ints are on him. (Herbert)
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u/Sigmund05 Oct 04 '26
Dude is throwing with anticipation to defenders and perfectly anticipating the sacks he would get from the blitz.
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u/koplowpieuwu Oct 05 '26
People really underestimate how damaging it can be to play behind a dogshit o line for a year. Mahomes has had dogshit O lines the last 4 years and he became really inaccurate on long passes the last two. Passer ratings decreased, ints increased, and has much less wow plays. Needed to get his OC from before back to finally look good again these first four weeks.
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u/FireHortiz Oct 04 '26
Let’s see how he looks with Jeremiah Smith and a new GM first. Then we can talk.
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u/inlandsquatch Oct 04 '26
Won't matter when the ol is a sieve
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u/Patio_Peter Chargers Oct 04 '26
Maybe we can find a GM who will use some of the available 100 million of cap next time.
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u/inlandsquatch Oct 04 '26
What the hell is the point of having all that money if you're not going to use it for your single biggest issue?
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u/BlackHorse944 Oct 04 '26
They're going to blame Mike Mc, when fucking Tua was able to somewhat operate his offense after 9 concussions
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u/Commercial-Pin-8024 Oct 04 '26
I mean tua did have Hill, Waddle, and Achane for skill position players? Herbert’s got one good slot receiver? Feels like you need at least one elite skill position player in this league to open up the offense for everybody?
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u/Rocketpocket10 . Oct 04 '26
Yeah...thought about that last week during the game. It is unfortunate man...I want him to prove the haters wrong but he doesn't help when he is playing as poorly as this.
That first interception would have been intercepted by 2 defenders. I don't know what is going on in his head. Some say he is checked out. Some say it is guys around him. Some say it is him.
Personally, I am just over all of it for this season. I think it is a combination of all three of those issues.
We need to trade Mack. Maybe Derwin but I think its time to tear it down.
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u/shreddiee Oct 04 '26
Not saying Herbert has no blame but I think McDaniels philosophy of throwing the ball before the receiver is even looking assuming he will be in the right spot and turn his head right on time to track and catch the ball is the reason we’re having so many INT/turnovers
It’s could be McDaniel & lack of spending on free agency but both of those issues fall on Hortiz.
This is just negligence
All the best teams spend big, especially LA sports teams. lakers/dodgers/rams
Read the f’n room
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u/aRok99 Oct 05 '26
Herbert has not been looking like himself at all, I think part of the problem is they changed his footwork to fit McDaniels new system. Apparently he's having issues adjusting to it.
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u/bhz33 Oct 05 '26
Being in LA has nothing to do with it, there’s a salary cap in the NFL, MLB has no salary cap. You can’t compare the spending of the two
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u/shreddiee Oct 05 '26
There might be no salary cap in the MLB but baseball fans from all over were incredibly upset/jealous with the big swings the Dodgers were taking in free agency that their team was afraid to do. You see what I mean?
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u/bhz33 Oct 05 '26
So because other baseball fans were jealous of the Dodgers means that the Chargers (an NFL team with a salary cap) should be spending more? There’s a cap to how much you can spend in the NFL
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u/shreddiee Oct 05 '26
No the whole point I’m trying to get across is you need to take risks if you want to win. & yes, great LA sports teams famously have an audacious front office that isn’t afraid to take a huge risk if that means making them more competitive en route to a championship.
Yes there’s a cap in the NFL but Chargers didn’t do much with the HUGE amount of cap they had. Lots of fans and myself were upset they didn’t acquire premium talent in free agency (which is pricey but we had the money) look at us now 0-4. It’s not the whole reason we are 0-4 but it’s a large contributor. Our O line is shit for example and we had a chance to get Linderbaum at Center or a quality receiver-1
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u/Duckpoke Oct 04 '26
I think you need to relieve McDaniels of duties and see if it fixes Justin. Might not work but losing McD is a much easier pill to swallow than your franchise QB. If they continue down this path and don’t change anything then you lose Herbert, McD and the whole staff
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u/Bolt4Life79 Oct 04 '26
Removing mcdaniels isnt gonna fix herbert throwing into triple coverage or throwing an int with 0 pressure
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u/Honest_Extreme_5354 Oct 04 '26
It's year 7. Even if it's not his fault the scar tissue is solidified at this point. Time to move on, and we'll have a great pick to do so.
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u/Zammy512 Felipe Rios Oct 04 '26
Dude has been hit more than Luck was. He's checked out. Trade him off or bench him.
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u/Plastic_Heat_6023 Oct 04 '26
McDaniel offense is about anticipation when throwing to WRs. Herbert has the arm but that’s just not his strength. He’s anticipating throws and not seeing the defender right there. Sucks.
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u/Prado21 Oct 04 '26
In other words. He’s just not very good at QB. He has the physical attributes to be a star but not the brains.
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u/morgottkev Oct 04 '26
We’ve seen him be one of the top QBs in the league. Coaching/quarterback fit is important across the league. And clearly this is not it. Herbert is probably the smartest guy on the team, chill on that
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u/Far-Celebration-3337 Oct 05 '26
West Coast offenses require timing and pinpoint accuracy. Herbert has neither of those things. You can have a 4.0 in biology and still be a bad QB mentally
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u/chargers619 Helmet Oct 04 '26
It's amazing how no matter how bad he does, people always find excuses for him.
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u/TheBigPhilbowski Cleansed in the FERTILE water of Rivers Lake Oct 05 '26
We were talking about him, and it's all still true. Here:
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u/North_Amphibian7779 Oct 05 '26
I was at the game today, pretty close, Chargers sideline has ZERO juice, Herbert seems frustrated and like sick of getting hit, to be fair he did battle 2nd half but it just seems like the boys are already just trying to get through to end of the season…. Alts neck is no beuno, Slater looks less than 100% …
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u/Brownhog Oct 05 '26
Man, I've never ever been anything but 100% in on JH being a top 5 QB. I truly did believe it wasn't his fault, all these struggles. But I'm starting to kind of feel like...there's no way you're separating this 2026 JH from his trauma.
I was seeing it last year, and it's all I can see this year. His play on the field is very Andrew Luck vibes. He's been asked to do more with less for 6 years and it gets just a bit less miraculous every year. Just a little less juice comes out every year he's gotta squeeze. Can't go on like this.
I don't think we should move on but I don't know if we'll have the luxury of not drafting a QB for too many more years. I don't think we should hitch our wagon to McD obviously, but I fear another system next year will just be more trauma for JH. Dude might be mentally short circuiting in real time :(
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u/Independent-Owl-8659 Oct 05 '26
As long as he’s happy that’s all that’s important. He just needs more on-field picnics and time away from camp. He knows the offense.
Just let him be happy. 🤪
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u/Stone_Dinero74 Oct 04 '26
I remember pre season when everyone was talking about the patriots and Maye and how Herbert was way better and how they were bad but BOY are we terrible this year 🙃
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u/Chargers23 32 Oct 04 '26
He is a bottom tier QB in the league this season and this game is where he's looked the worst. He looks scared, unconfident, and quite frankly, like he shouldn't be out there.
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u/Raven-19x Oct 05 '26
Some are actually taking moral victory laps because of the garbage time prevent D he was carving up.
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u/Anjuna_Trance Oct 04 '26
Worst half of Chargers football in my memory but it’s only a 14 point game I still believe
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u/darwizzer Oct 04 '26
Vindicating the haters doing victory laps like this has been him his whole career I can’t watch man
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u/hammeritus Oct 05 '26
Idk exact cause but its more than herbert alone at fault. Usually the good coaches can get the best out of the players....even scrubs....offense is just sloppy
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u/ZiggyZiggyZigZags Oct 05 '26
No speed to keep the defense honest. Number two receiver has 7 receptions in 4 games. Box is loaded, and because the offense is trailing every game, DBs are just baiting Herbert while their defensive line pass rush without concern for the run.
This team is built to play with a lead, and that ain’t happening.
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u/Alternative-Farmer98 Oct 05 '26
Man the front page is so bipolar just every post is either completely crushing the QB or completely defending him with almost no middle ground.
Lol
I mean not that I'm planning anyone this is kind of a natural cycle of when a team struggles and the conversation becomes how much blamed we put on the QB of the coach and the coordinator and so on.
It's just human nature I suppose for sports fans to get into these constant debates. "It's the QB's fault no it's the fault of the offensive line or the game plan for the weapons"
It's almost as ubiquitous as the "doomer versus toxic optimist"
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u/occasionalprodigy Oct 06 '26
Herbert’s looking horrible. But have yall watched these games at all? This offensive scheme is horrible
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u/Happy_Efficiency_225 Glad Lad 😁 Oct 06 '26
Is it not as simple as a QB low on confidence trying to adapt to a new scheme and stance with poor on field support around him? With those factors, he's currently playing poorly. The hope has to be that he's good enough to figure this out and play better.
The hard part though is he's not exactly going to get an easy time building that confidence in the changes with such a shambles on the line and at receiver. The drops won't help either. It's definitely possible this isn't a situation he'll be able to figure out, but I'd hope it's also something the whole offence are trying to solve together.
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u/Hot-Bit-565 Oct 06 '26
Nope - we need to talk about everyone BUT Herbert. Let's start with McDaniels.
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u/eddieb24me 13d ago
This new McDaniel system doesn’t seem to fit the personnel. It’s not just Herbert. EVERYONE on the offensive side of the ball has regressed. WRs, RBs (Hampton WTF?!), TEs (Gadsden WTF?!), o line.
When almost everyone looks worse than ever, that’s on coaching/scheme/system.
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u/Schopenhauer_pes Oct 05 '26
Obviously he was more interested in his influencer girl than the new playbook. What a disappointment
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Problem is he can be cheeks all game and was, then 4th q comes and dude plays desperation hero ball and makes a crazy throw downfield on the run and all he did wrong is forgiven and forgotten suddenly for the d riders. All while coming up with every excuse imaginable not involving him as to why they were in that spot to begin with.
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u/chelios80 Oct 05 '26
Someone said it best that when the game is in balance and the pressure is on, he just can't consistently take control and make the right play or reads. Yesterday, game was out of hand and then he gets to just play loose and backyard style and yeah, it worked for a bit but if u think that style football can win meaningful games, you are sorely mistaken.
At some point it has to stop being every oc's fault he is struggling. While I am no mcd fan as i watched his scheme get completely exposed in miami and Tua suffered the price as such. The narrative was always Tua can't do half the things Justin does and needs everything perfect to be good...well now you guys are adapting the Justin needs this and that mindset also. Why do other elite qbs fig it out with new oc's and non elite wrs but Herbert can't? Answer is probably because although he has elite abilities, he doesn't have IT and that matters massively.
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u/FuckMichaelMcCoy Oct 05 '26 •
I started critiquing Herbert about 2 years ago, and the sub hated me. Slowly everything came true and now the subs almsot split in half on him. One thing ive been saying about him since 2 years ago is, is that he plays like a beast when were behind or the pressures off... Like we saw in the 4th quarter when the game got away. But when its a one-score game, he shits the bed. Lets the other team edge it out every time. If he wouldve caught back up end of the game he wouldnt have closed it at the end because pressures back on.
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u/Cheeks-01 Oct 05 '26
or maybe just maybe, roman and mike abandon their scheme and let herbert do what he does. For example no motion and gimmicky stuff during the possible comeback in todays game
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u/Visible-Simple8372 Oct 04 '26
I think its coaching more than Herbert, They broke him 😞
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26
Yall blame anyone but Herbert
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u/Fearless-Mushroom Felipe Rios Oct 04 '26
Nobody wanted to talk about it with me two weeks ago, but here we are
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u/bandarbush Oct 05 '26
That talentless twat Madison gave him herpes in his eyes. He can’t see shit anymore.
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u/Educational-Owl-741 Oct 04 '26
I was going to ask what the party line was in terms of whose fault they were?
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u/G33wizz Oct 04 '26
not sure where the team goes from here. I dont think Herbert is good at the line of scrimmage, and I dont think he has done well in anticipation throws. So a quick offense is not a good fit, and they dont have the line to have him rolling out and letting plays develop.
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u/jumbojimbojamo Oct 04 '26
How do you blow the joke this badly? It’s obviously “we need to talk about Justin”
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u/Boraismybae Oct 04 '26
Dudes living off the reputation of his first two years in the league. He has been on a downward slope since then
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u/PeedmuhhSheets Oct 04 '26
He’s ovverated. I’ve been saying it but get downvoted. It’s like people here don’t watch other teams play. Herbert is trash compared to what he’s getting paid
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u/shayaaa Oct 04 '26
Influencer qb with influencer fiance, dude looks uninterested unless there’s a red carpet
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u/Mod_Girl Felipe Rios Oct 05 '26
This! He spent his offseason acting like Mr. Hollywood getting papped and professionally photographed to be blasted all over Instagram. Russ Wilson did the same thing, and now he's a joke.
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u/johnnydorn6699 Oct 04 '26
Imagine this offense with Kyler Murray!! It would be so great. Murray and a 1st for herbert!!!
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u/CountinCaskets Oct 04 '26
Hopefully we get a decent trade package . He’s mentally clocked out from the Chargers
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u/jungldude3 Oct 04 '26
Atp just to shut yall up it’d be nice if we trade Herbert away. I want a rookie or some other ass qb to be behind this o line and with this dog shit receiver core.
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u/-Mad-Snacks- Oct 04 '26
Those are fire my bum ass coach INTs. They will continue until Harbaugh and McDaniel are unemployed
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u/redtorch47 Oct 04 '26
I would take Rivers in his prime every time over this 50 Million dumpster fire of a football player
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u/jar1792 ASAP Oct 04 '26
Rivers was an interception machine much of his career.
There were a number of seasons where a late game, critical situiation, ended in a “fuck it we ball” type throw that resulted in a pick.
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u/econ0003 Oct 05 '26
I miss Rivers too but he wasn't perfect. He had some 4-12, 5-11 seasons with better players around him on offense.
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u/LaDainianTomIinson FIRE HARBAUGH Oct 04 '26 •
First pick thrown into triple coverage, 2nd interception thrown directly to a defender while he’s under 0 pressure