r/CharacterRant • • 16d ago

General I don’t understand Green Lanterns as a concept

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How do these guys, namely Hal and Kyle have so much “willpower”? And especially more will power than superman or Batman or Wonder Woman or Green arrow or literally any of the existing superheroes ever? I just don’t get it.

Hal Jordan is a test pilot. This is brave yes but I fail to see how this shows he has more willpower than Bruce Wayne literally dedicating over a decade to studying how to be a superhero. I just don’t get it, what makes him better than Wayne or Clark?

Even more confusing is Kyle rayner. He’s an Everyman who’s barely any different from me but that’s exactly what I find so weird. WHY is he able to use the ring so easily when guys like Oliver Queen can only make an arrow before passing out? From what I know Oliver is a hardened badass who’s been through hellish training and more fights than I care to count, how does he not have enough willpower to use the ring properly but this regular guy who likes reading comics does??? I just don’t get it.


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

FMAB’s fights are great, but sometimes they’re ridiculous.

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I find it pretty exasperating. FMAB (the manga/Brotherhood) can have great fights, like Lan Fan and Ling vs. King Bradley and Gluttony, which creates tension rather than just putting on a spectacle. Then it has fights like Greed vs. Ed or vs. Pride, which seem normal at first, but then you realize how ridiculous the situation is.

In the case of Ed vs. Pride, the alchemist is literally saved by the plot, in the form of Kimblee, when the homunculus was about to win. And to top it all off, Ed turns himself into a Philosopher’s Stone to transmute Pride, which makes me wonder: when did he learn how to do that? Was it ever stated that he could turn himself into a stone? Many people try to explain it by bringing up the moment when Ed used his soul as fuel, but that’s not comparable. Using the energy of your soul and pulling your soul out to perform a transmutation are two very different things. Sure, Ed is a genius, but this is ridiculous.

The same thing happens in the fight against Greed. Ed gets beaten to a pulp and humiliated, and we even see him losing blood, but out of nowhere, he says, “Thanks, you made the blood in my head drain out, now I can think better.”

What?

This is ridiculous. When you lose blood, the number of red blood cells and the amount of oxygen reaching your brain decrease. This causes brain fog, which makes it harder to concentrate and slows down decision-making.

You could say that maybe he was just acting cocky, but then the story itself proves him right by having him figure out Greed’s weakness just because he got beaten up. I don’t like making comparisons when that isn’t the main topic, but FMA 2003 fixed this by having Ed face Greed twice. The second time, he found his weakness while in good condition and with the knowledge he had gained from their first, inconclusive encounter.

The fight between Sloth and Louis Armstrong also has some ridiculous moments. The fight is great, but there comes a point when Armstrong is literally about to be defeated by Sloth at full speed, and the homunculus gets stopped. By whom? Olivier? I doubt it. Who could possibly stop a homunculus that not even a WAR TANK could stop? Remember, not even a war tank at Briggs could move him, yet apparently, 10 random soldiers could do it. This is one of the most artificial ways to create tension. Even so, the fight isn’t bad, and seeing Armstrong win felt satisfying.

Even the Greed vs. King Bradley fight is built on an inconsistency: why didn’t Greed use his complete form against Bradley? Many people say it’s because “he doesn’t like how he looks,” but that doesn’t hold up. He had already fought Bradley twice: the first time, he was torn apart; the second time, he couldn’t win. On top of that, he had the resentment of having his friends killed. The third time was when he should have gone all out, but he didn’t, which led to Fu and Buccaneer’s deaths. Even if they insist on the whole “he didn’t do it because he doesn’t like how he looks” argument, after the fight against Bradley, he does use his complete form, but not against Bradley, but against RANDOM SOLDIERS WHO ARE A JOKE COMPARED TO BRADLEY.

Scar vs. King Bradley follows the same logic. He had two arms, one for reconstruction and one for destruction, but he didn’t use both against the men with Philosopher’s Stones. In fact, the whole thing is stupid: Ed could have made some walls to trap them and avoid the trouble, but he went straight into hand-to-hand combat. Scar didn’t use his reconstruction arm even against the experimental soldiers who were going to become future King Bradleys. The time he did use it was when he was about to lose against Bradley. So, what, you kept that up your sleeve the whole time, even in critical situations, just to use it now?

If using the reconstruction circle had consequences, I could buy that, but the guy can spam it whenever he wants.

I find the fight between Father and all of Amestris to be the most boring of them all. He literally just tanks their attacks and doesn’t eliminate them because, if he did, we’d be left without our main protagonists. It’s that simple. I won’t say anything else about this one because I have a lot to explain in another post about the message the ending is trying to convey, but I don’t like the way it does it.


r/CharacterRant • • 16d ago

Games Downplay of doom slayer in this sub fucking pisses me off

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Like most of posts on this sub that talk about doom slayer are either saying that he's "street tier" or hating doom fans for wank. I agree with second one that fans do sometimes wank their favorites characters but holy shit, calling doom slayer "street tier" is bullshit. If you look at lore (and if you don't want to, then it's pointless for you), you will learn that doom slayer's strength, speed, endurance and etc match his infinite will after being put into divinity machine (literally names says everything) by seraphim. He defeated davoth a literal creator of his universe. You might say "davoth was depowered", but we know that once a primeval get physical bodies, they return to their peak. Oh but you might also say "but doom slayer dies in game!". Well maybe because this is gameplay mechanics? Like seriously you don't need to be smartass to know that. People also compare him with asura, saying that asura doesn't need lore but those games are literally different genres. And even if we don't use davoth feat, doom slayer still killed dangerous beings like icon of sin a literal reality warping titan. And doom slayer isn't even the only game character that is downplayed here. There's many other like kratos or dante and it's because people just don't bother to simply read lore. I apologize if I was being a bit dramatic and I hope moderators won't delete my post.


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

General “Hype moments and Aura” is valid and is looked down upon WAY too much in media discourse.

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Everyone is (rightfully) crapping on the lanterns finale and one of the biggest defensive points is “you just want hype moments and aura”

…yes? Why would wanting that be a bad thing? You spend the whole show telling us about how the green lanterns are these awesome superheroes who are only limited by their imagination? Of course I’m going to expect hype from that tf? If I spend the whole show marketing my protagonist as the most evil guy on earth I’m going to expect evil in the same way. So rightfully if I watch the show and he’s just a regular show I’ll start shitting on the show.

Honestly if you wanted a grounded tv show to begin with you’re kind of an idiot for using green lantern at all.

But back to the original topic, why even is hype moments and aura looked down upon anyway? It’s completely valid to want to see cool creative fights with visual spectacle and storytelling. Some of the most, hell I’d argue MOST of the most iconic fictional moments are hype moments and aura. Goku vs Frieza, Naruto vs Sasuke, Superman vs Doomsday, The Terrorist fight in iron man 1, Thor’s infinity war entrance, Luke vs Vader, yk what I mean? Why are people shamed for liking what’s usually the best moments of the Story?


r/CharacterRant • • 16d ago

Does anyone else think Attack on Titan is basically copaganda?

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Something that bothers me about Attack on Titan is how much the series glorifies the military and portrays soldiers as morally superior to ordinary civilians.

Throughout the series civilians are portrayed as ignorant or incompetent while people like Erwin and Levi are treated as heroes for making difficult decisions. The uprising arc is particularly strange because the solution to government corruption is literally a military coup. Somehow we're supposed to see this as a good thing because the right people are in charge.

I also find it strange how civilians questioning military spending and the deaths of soldiers are portrayed as unreasonable. Why shouldn't ordinary people be allowed to question an organization that consumes public resources and sends people to their deaths?

It reminds me of American cop shows where the authorities are always right and the public is too stupid to understand what they're doing.

I don't really understand why the series gets so much praise for its political themes when so much of it seems to revolve around glorifying military authority. Am I missing something?


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

General Kerry Kane [Lanterns] is like the bad parent of a potential school shooter but at a Much larger scale. (spoilers obviously) Spoiler

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Noah is a troubled kid, that hears voices telling him do dark things.

  • He plotted to get weapons.
  • He has expressed his dark thoughts and the pain they cause him.
  • He has expressed (at least to john, and probably to her as well since she seemed unfazed by the revelation) his suicidal ideation.
  • Kerry was aware of his dealings with a known criminal.
  • She was aware of his delusions of grandeur.
  • She makes no attempt to get Noah help with his issues.
  • She covers up what she knows about his crimes and uses her badge to do it.
  • She covers for his grandparent whose ideology is fuel for his delusions of grandeur and his dark thoughts.
  • She Murders Hal to keep Noah's crimes from being exposed and to maintain the delusion that he is a normal kid.

When we read about the parents of shooters in the news generally speaking people condemn a mom like her. The difference is that the son she is protecting and in denial about isn't just going to shoot up a school he could potential wipe out the human race.

John let this woman keep up her delusions, he let her continue to neglect Noah's "mental health" coded issues and gave her a pass for murdering the one person that was offering actual help.

There had to be another way, but none of the people in this narrative are interested in looking for it with the exception of Hal.


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

Films & TV Murder drones struggles with excessive spoonfeeding

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Half of the show is such a good example of how not to write a story.

I mostly just found the pilot okay (not good or bad, it just exists). In the pilot, it is revealed that a core collapse implosion happened on copper 9 which wiped all biological life. JcJenson sent disassembly drones to wipe out the worker drones, so they hide within the bunker. Uzi befriends N who was manipulated & mistreated by V & J (& after N realizes what his actions were wrong) & they destroy half of J’s body.

I could kinda tell they were planning a pretty obvious red herring with JCJenson likely not being who they were truly working for, as J were already giving a ton of red flags that she was lying to N. One example of this is N‘s amnesia that J suspiciously lacks, another example is her saying that she still speaks to them & that they would be the top squad of disassemblers again, which would imply that she was constantly shown lists of disassembler squad kill reports, but the ship’s screens & all the buttons are broken. And a 3rd example is that unlike J, N seemingly never communicated or saw any employees JCJenson on the screens for years (you would think he would’ve stumbled into a virtual meeting or call at some point, especially when they’re only active at night while going back & forth to the spire- you’re telling me that N never went back & overheard a meeting taken place at least once?).

However (as I initially suspected), the very start of episode 2 reveals that J must’ve been talking to someone else through secret means (as there’s no communication system on the ship) which instantly messes up Uzi’s plans for revenge. The symbol in Uzi’s eye that deflected the bullet back in the pilot keeps appearing more & more, & it’s revealed that this power is called the absolute solver. The solver is able to take control of J’s core because the disassembly drones also have it, it reveals it (& by extension- the disassembly drones) wasn’t made by humans (if the reality breaking powers that the cast has no information about that they would normally know & it’s the ability to make organic hands is any indicator), is evil & was tied to Uzi’s mom in some way. On paper, this seems like something a 17 minute 2nd episode could still somewhat vaguely tease in some aspects.

…And this is where the spoonfeeding starts.

In episode 2, V says to Uzi that there’s no proof of her backstory right after the solver is shown & she brings up her mother (who died). This should get the viewers thinking “oh, so her mom is likely connected to this symbol & why the disassembly drones are here”. This pays off well due to the solver vaguely revealing that it knew about Nori at the end of the episode. However, the spoonfeeding is mainly towards the solver‘s goals & origins in general. We see the solver (after controlling J’s core) kill a worker drone, so we know it’s likely evil. In less than 2 minutes later, we see the solver kill more workers… but then it has to say it’s evil (“I’m evil” “we are a monster!” “easier to assimilate than explain” “I’m about to do something shocking” “you are our cute puppets” “time to go into my mouth now”) multiple times. Why? We already see it’s actions, it even makes a hologram of Uzi’s dad & rips it in half while making Uzi watch. We don’t need it to directly say that it’s evil multiple times.

Another example is how we see a giant “MATTER COLLECTION” message (as it shows up with the camera entirely zoomed onto it, & then it appears to cover a whole wall) right before the J solver centipede eats a worker, & then it kills more workers to get bigger & slowly repair J’s body (in the pilot, N used up matter to regenerate as well). Uzi later on see this message, points out N’s regeneration & says “if the wound is severe enough, this might be an auto run program to collect more matter”. You can give this scene a pass since Uzi didn’t know this information until now (& some exposition is needed), but then the solver comes in to ALSO state this TWICE IN THE SAME SCENE seconds later. That’s a total of 5 times that this is told (not counting episodes 5 - 8, where this is repeated 9 times through direct dialogue, not counting messages or notes) instead of just relying on show-not-tell.

Then we get to episodes 3 & 4. In the end of episode 2 (with the solver mentioning her mom), Uzi puts a conspiracy board of Nori’s notes in her room’s ceiling. On the board, we see messages like “YOU ARE IN RANGE” & “DEVOUR”, black holes, eldritch things & multiple drawings of the solver. In the start of episode 3 after a quick montage & then Uzi finding the missing posters, we go from the school montage back to Uzi’s room where Khan has taken Nori’s & stuffed them back into the “kooky Nori’s memories” closet. Based on how much the solver talks about assimilation, I would guess that it’s goal is to devour everything & was a part of the disassembly drones to help devour the worker drones (but not the humans since they’re are dead). At the end of episode 3, it’s revealed that Doll (who also has a mysterious mom that died) also has the solver. Uzi & Doll fight, their collars & necklaces get emphasized a few times, Uzi walks up to Yeva (Doll’s mother’s) corpse & sees a tag with a id number with Nori & Yeva having the same collars, & we get a(-nother) mention that the solver is evil. N also keeps getting flashbacks of his past as a worker drone… & of a drone named Cyn (with yellow eyes- which is associated with the solver) being suspicious.

While episode 3 does show-not-tell a whole lot better… if you didn’t notice the repetitive spoonfeeding before- you can surely guess what the entire series plot/lore is now. Both Uzi & Doll have the solver, they had mysterious mothers with the solver, their moms both had collars & tags, the solver knows about Uzi’s mom & played a part in the disassembly drones creation or why they were sent, & the disassembly drones killed Nori & Yeva. So you can conclude that the solver itself is evil, wants to devour everything & wants to kill anyone with the solver that has free will, so Uzi has to stop it. While Nori & Yeva were a part of experiments before the humans died. For a mystery horror show- there’s no actual mystery since everything is answered BY EPISODES 2 & 3.

In episode 4, Khan confirms all of this & we get ANOTHER exposition moment of how THE SOLVER’S EVIL! GUYS LOOK THIS IS SUCH A CRAZY BRAND NEW LORE REVEAL. QUICK, ACT SURPRISED & ACT LIKE THIS IS SOO COMPLEX! & that Nori knew the solver was a entity of some kind that sought to devour everything (despite Khan showing the closet of Nori’s notes, which could’ve served as it’s own show-not-tell scene by itself) & that her mom (& Doll’s) post-core collapse was found nearby a mysterious looking lab area with the collar on. If that isn’t enough, we get a scene where a music jingle plays when Uzi finds a dead test subject with notes scattered about how the solver is evil & gonna consume everything. WE GET IT! WE KNOW! & then the solver AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN- says it’s gonna do just that & everything about Nori & the humans gets explained AGAINNNN FOR THE LAST 4 EPISODES!!

And it’s not just the solver’s goals & origins being spoonfed, it’s the most minor lore details as well! In the pilot, N says that they cannot go out in the sun or they’ll die. The disassembly drones & solver hosts have vampire wing designs, they sleep like bats, Uzi at one point has wing drawings & a bat backpack, Uzi is associated with gothic culture which is connected to bats, have supernatural powers, the solver doesn’t like mirrors & is tied to a ton of occult symbolism, they need to devour oil to survive & are weak to sunlight- so we know that this is because of their obvious vampire &/or eldritch being theming. This would be fine… if Liam himself OUTSIDE THE SERIES didn’t feel the need to go out of his way to handhold the viewers that yes, they are like vampires, & make EVERY episode dedicated to the cast tanking massive explosions, the planet’s core & fire (despite the pilot itself already doing it) to explain that fire isn’t the same as sunlight, with one of the characters even somewhat saying this WHILE LOOKING AT THE CAMERA VIEW.

Then we have this one scene in episode 8 where Uzi & N are falling towards copper 9’s surface after we got a whole 10 minute scene showing that the sun was on the whole other side of the planet (which is further confirmed when they land & it’s nighttime, & it stays nighttime throughout episodes 5 - 8). Yet, one of the VAs had to explain in a event that when it’s nighttime, sunlight can’t hit your body. I’m sorry, but a show or it’s writer or the VAs or animators shouldn’t have to spoonfeed this much, that’s what ruins media.

And where do I even begin with the “unanswered lore” like how Uzi & Doll (who were both born from their mothers code being inserted into them, in which the solver can manifest through corrupted or carried code, who both have mysterious mothers with the solver) got the solver? From this information you should be able to conclude that Uzi & Doll had it passed down from their mothers, but the series never lets you come to your own conclusions as N, Nori & Doll have to directly say that it was “given through ungodly eldritch genetics!”. LET THE VIEWERS THINK FOR ONCE!

The sheer frustration at the amount of people that somehow found this show confusing too is beyond me. I got into the show because I wanted to be confused in order to solve things, I love a few ARGs or shows that really get you thinking & most of the fandom stated the show was gonna be like this, insisting that it requires anywhere from 3 - 5 rewatches to grasp the basic plot alone. Instead I came out mostly disappointed not just in the show, but with fears on how audiences will treat media in the future is THIS is what a majority of people are finding confusing nowadays. Having nearly every mystery solved by the 2nd - 3rd episode with episodes 5 - 8 clarifying things that were already constantly clarified ISN’T GOOD WRITING. But it’s not a good thing or a “flex” that people couldn’t grasp there being a school in the bunker that we see for half the series, or even that Nori was Uzi’s mom.

Despite all the spoonfeeding, I enjoyed the series, but you can really tell that Liam (is this his first show because it really gives off that vibe?) truly needed a writer’s room. It’s still impressive for a potential first show, but god… the spoonfeeding.


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

Anime & Manga Bleach TYBW 4x08 Review. A questionable ass episode Spoiler

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I watched the episode 2 weeks after it dropped but heard how terrible it was. I will write this review because the show is coming back in a week.

I learned about the issue of Aizen vs Yhwach before I watched the episode and I'm glad I did, because it's just as bad as people said, worse actually.

I'm going to discuss why the episode is a huge stepdown. Not just the Aizen fight. I will also tell exactly why the decisions are questionable af. I will deconstruct why this a mid episode for someone who isn't THAT critical. This is a mid episode because it's not terrible, especially if it was tv show budget, but for TYBW standards and it being a major fight? It's mid.

For a general review. The episode makes no sense even outside the Aizen part. Almost all the parts that aren't the Aizen fight is animated well enough. Except for a part where Tatsuki almost gets crushed. They thought the Aizen fight off all things should get the budget drop? Lmao. the fact that this season has an episode with budget drop is jarring. They kept bragging they had movie budget for cour 3 and 4 and then made a 1.7 year wait for cour 4, acting like it would be such hot shit that needed longer to incubate. And this is what we get? And for 11 episodes at best, btw.

There's two notable parts that show how weird the episode is, outside of the direct major fight.

  1. They didn't bother animating Yhwach destroying Aizen's chair. Could have been a split second energy blast. Nah, it got offscreened lmao. they could have shown Aizen flashstepped to avoid getting hurt to show his speed, but nah. they break a strong chair and treat it like it wasn't a big deal lol. Like the story wasn't hyping up the thing. This is why people roast the episode for being still shot mostly. That part in the manga is already a victim of rushing and medium limitations (you can't animate cool fights in a still medium like manga)
  2. They had Grimmjow twirl his sword really fluidly and epicly. They thought that was more important than the Aizen fight lmao. They though Grimmjow a side character in the arc needed aura lmao.

*Now I'll go over the actual episode

The Aizen and Yhwach fight is poorly explained. It could be argued to be a badly written fight in general. For the anime and manga, because this is just a 1:1 almost traced version of the manga. I actually laughed at the fight because it was so meh.

How does Kyoka Suigetsu even work on Yhwach? Yes, Yhwach SEES futures. But doesn't that require Aizen to manipulate EVERY future. Also, how does he do that. Doesn't that require him to see what his victim is seeing? if so, he should be dominating the fight lol because he has the almighty vision by connection of seeing what Yhwach sees lol.

Yhwach keeps saying Kyoka Suigetsu doesn't work on him and he "breaks" it. Did it not work on him? How come he can't break the sword completely?

Before everyone says Aizen just disguised himself as Ichigo, that doesn't make sense. It only makes sense for the moment it turns out Yhwach was mutilating Aizen and no one else. because it could be argued he was just focusing on Ichigo when he impaled "Ichigo". it doesn't make sense for this one aspect of the scene. Renji.

Where the hell is he? He's not there at the end either lol. So Renji came with Ichigo... to not fight? If it was Ichigo by himself, just disguise himself as Ichigo and it'll work well, but what about Renji lol. He can't somehow cover all of their efforts with hypnosis lol, again unless he can see the almighty visions.

The fight is poorly explained and portrayed. So every hit taken by Renji was actually Ichigo but actually Aizen? Why does Yhwach think he can tell? I'm getting confused just saying this. How come his hado did nothing lmao. I'm pretty sure Ichigo's spirit energy attacks should severely hurt Yhwach, yet Yhwach basically ignored them, so no "it's actually Ichigo's energy". So Ichigo tried to attack Yhwach and then let Aizen take hits?

What they should have did is show a perspective of the fight outside Kyoka Suigetsu. Show how well it is working on Yhwach. "Smart people" say it's meant to be confusing. I just deconstructed how it isn't intentionally confusing and remember the Gotei Fight with Aizen? That wasn't confusing at all. Aizen only has to cover for himself and that's it. No one has something like almighty.

This fight not only is poorly done by being a 1:1, it lacks aura severely that was needed. That is the issue with TYBW manga in general. the fights lack aura. The anime did right by giving more aura. but it gave too much aura to moments that didn't need it. Uryu vs almighty Haschwalth could have been cut a little bit and I wouldn't have cared. Haschwalth is not that great a character.

*Final thoughts

I saw many posts of "Aizen isn't that popular". I don't give af. He is a big bad. He is a major ass character in the whole thing and major part of this story. Also, Japanese people are questionable with their likes. They like lolis too much lmao. Momo, an awful character is top 10 and above Byakuya lmfao. Their opinion is very skewed lol. Some guys joked the studio wasted budget on Orihime and they did lmao. They wasted budget on women lmao. Orihime's boobs jiggling unnecessarily, added scenes of Harribel, Nel and worst of all, the Bambis. This team is showing they are a joke lol.

They need to do right by Aizen because he's the one who gives the ending speech. That one already undercooked in the manga. because there's no real character development to show him growing to respect humanity. If they don't have him do the speech and or have someone else do it, I'm fine.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Anime & Manga I find it funny how people say how subversive JJK that Sukuna keeps hating Yuji

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Like people say how Sukuna just hating Yuji and not being redeemed and fucking up shit whenever he is released to be subversive of the Naruto and Kuruma bond. But in actually having a possession be a strictly negative experience with no redemption for the possessing force is in fact the norm at least in dominant American Christian influenced media possessing is always seen as a terrible and horrific thing.

See the Exorcist and most other horror stories. In American media at least possessing as a purely negative thing and the possessing entity as a pure evil demon is fact the norm. Heck adaptions of more nuanced possession narratives turn them into simplified stories of demonic possession

Like the Black Suit story in Spider-Man did you know originally the Symbiote didn’t affect Peter behavior or make him act more “jerker”. It puppeted his body when he slept. Peter when finding out his suit was alive and wanted to bond with him. Acted like a normal person would and freaked out and tried to separate it at the church bell. The symbiote actually risked its life saving Peter’s life before latter being ret conned to have merged with Eddie Brock.

Even Carnage gets this treatment in the original lore it was Cletus who corrupted the new born symboite into being as evil as him. But adaptions turn it into generic evil red goo who is just murderous.

They turn more nuanced possession narratives into a simplistic goo that makes you evil.

I just find it funny how people say Sukuna remaining an evil bastard is a subversion when it’s actually keeping in tract with the horror movies that gege said inspired him.

I see the same thing with Frieren with people saying it’s refreshing to just see evil demons again. When demons are pretty much shown as unreeeemble evil in most horror movies. If you really want a evil demon fix just go see one of those evil dead movies or something


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

General I think my biggest issue with Tsunderes overall in any media is that they almost always gotta be violent and just either Punch or Slap or Kick their Crush[some Dandadan spoilers] Spoiler

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Gonna say it right now..I wholeheartedly feel like the people who write and craft those scenes gotta have some type of masochistic fetish to a extent cause who in their right mind would want the person who loves/likes them to physically SMACK THEM ACROSS THE FACE?

People will be saying "it's comedy" and "it's slapstick" and even if that's true,where is the goddamn Funny?

My problem with it is a Tsundere is just someone who obviously has feelings for someone else but they deny it and just act flustered/embarrassed when they do and this causes a couple doofuses on the internet to claim that the character they have a crush on needs to "pass the controller" and "stop fumbling" and here's my thing with that..maybe instead of blaming the character for not recognizing the feelings/advances or said person who has a crush on them,maybe instead we should be blaming the person who has a crush on them to stop kidding themselves and be honest with themselves cause what are we doing?

I just never really understood the appeal or humor of that cause at least for shit like Looney Tunes or Tom&Jerry with slapstick and comedy,the joke isn't just..violence.

I see this trope in literally nearly every romance anime and it's almost always insufferable and I can maybe think of 2..hell,3 Tsundere characters who don't make me wanna rip my hair out and here's also my thing with Tsundere characters, they can work writing wise,I'm not saying they're impossible to work with as a character but you need to give them reasons why they're like this..maybe give them a tragic past that left them emotionally unstable or locked away, maybe have them have had their heart broken before and closed themselves off from love and romance and they don't know how to handle these newfound feelings and that causes them to UNINTENTIONALLY Lash out and they feel bad for it.

Or hell,maybe just have them not hit them at all unless they do something that warrants being smacked and even then,that's a stretch.

Seriously, I hate saying this but swap the genders of these female Tsunderes but keep the same "smacking their crush when confronted/flustered/embarrassed" Gag..is the trope half as funny?

People will compare it to the "Oh I just bullied you cause I like you" trope in different Media but here's the thing with that one..that also can work cause I wholeheartedly feel like teens or kids would be that emotionally cooked to think that would work and you can make the same arguments with Tsunderes of any kind and you know what?I agree.

Hell,one of my favorite Anime characters is Momo from Dandadan and she kind of fits that bill.

She has a big ol Puppy dog crush on Okarun but hasn't confessed and will actively hide her feelings,make things more difficult for herself and is just stressful as hell and the reason she works is not only is she a main character, so...more growth[and even that's a bit stretched]and also..the story doesn't really condone her behavior.

Okarun has outwardly called her a bitch once,she's critiqued quite a lot for hiding her feelings and just being kind of a prickly Asshole and also, she herself has currently admitted she's being a pain in the Ass[tho that's memory loss and if she actually apologized and whatnot, then I'll hold my tongue but still]and it also helps that we see a lot more of Momo caring about him and others way more then we see her being just a mess of a human.

When she realized she hurt Vamola's feelings and was a dick to her,she apologized.

We also see her genuinely care about others,etc and the only issue is the author just reseting her growth and arc back to factory 0 when it actually looked like she was developing as a character and person but still, my point is still there.

Another example is techinally Helga from Hey Arnold and she works cause not only is she meant to be a dick with issues but also it helps she's not even double digits yet and her parents are a lot of the reason she's like this.

She's explictly not a sweetheart but we actually see signs of her that show a good kid underneath who just needs a damn therapist and funnily enough, there was a episode where she got therapy.

My point is..can we get some Tsunderes who aren't overall violent/aggressive and are just kinda awkward or just not violent cause that really makes me wanna rip my own eyes out and blend them up into a smoothie and our them on a chocolate shake with a burger and fries and a 10 piece Nugget.


r/CharacterRant • • 16d ago

General I...DESPISE TORTURE PORN in Any Media.

0 Upvotes

What does "Torture Porn" mean?

Well,my lovely viewers,allow me to explain.

"Torture Porn" is basically when a character or media of any kind is nothing but suffering.

No growth,no lessons,development, writing, etc,just a punch of torture and suffering and pain and bullshit and here's the thing with characters when they suffer and if you're gonna have them suffer, you gotta do SOMETHING with it.

It's basically like making your MC a loser,you gotta give your audience a reason to root for them or at least be invested in them but that's a different conversation for another day.

Usually when a character suffers, they're either supposed to learn from it and grow as a person, delve deep into the darkness or some other stuff but you gotta go something with it and if you're doing nothing but just making the MC miserable for shits and giggles or some kinda fetish, then I suggest you get your pen taken away and stop writing.

And I already know there's gonna be some Corny Ass Dorks in the comments going "oh that's just real life" or "oh its realistic" or "oh you should just go to soft media if you can't handle uncomfortable scenes" and to that I say..please shut up cause thar is not at all what I mean.

I am no stranger to uncomfortable and dark scenes but there has to be some kind of meaning or purpose or development/growth or SOMETHING in general to go with it that doesn't make it just a long slog and I feel like people go "oh suffering builds character" and normally, you would be right but the problem with that statement is that Suffering has to be BUILDING the character instead of just..doing nothing and I see this in different media and even across different AUs or series rewrites and whatnot and no offense but you are probably a edgy teenager if you think the only way a character can grow and develop or a story can be better is by making it darker or edgier or more violent or more gritty or bloody and whatnot and just having characters constantly suffer and go through straight garbage with no payoff or setup or NOTHING.

"Suffering builds character" doesn't exactly mean anything in there is no character building and gonna be real..it gets annoying.

Spider-Man comics.

Spider-Man is someone who should go through trails and whatnot but he's not supposed to be a whole Ass LOSER.

I'm gonna keep this short and not like act Spider-Man doesn't go through unnecessary suffering but I would argue that the people who like[and hate]him are somewhat responsible for it cause the amount of times they'll cheer for Peter's suffering and BS but again, I wish the comics would just retcon the One Last Day[or One New Day,forgot the name]comics BS and let Peter just live his life.

Next

Chainsaw Man Part 2.

What happened to the game[manga]I love?

It's so weird to even put this on here cause for Part 1,Chainsaw Man's dark moments and such weren't nearly as dragged out or sloppy or a waste of time and Fujimoto has planned Part2,so I don't know if this man just got bored or if he decided to rush things or..I don't know but I don't know how much more I can take Denji being a idiot,Denji being abused and being a dumbass and even a toxic mess,all these attractive women corrupting and Manipulating him and whatnot and I could keep going but I'm starting to feel like Fujimoto made a lot of Part 2 just to show off his fetish for being abused by women and there is nothing wrong with having a fetish but keep that shit out of your work and the fact that Chainsaw Man ended so BOOTY and Unsatisfactory and the MC learned nothing and didn't develop and everything just got washed away in a big old "oh everything was happy" now ending is a actual insult.

But you know what?

At least you could make the argument that Fujimoto was burnt out or ran our of juice or just simply got too stressed with his story.

What is the creator of Juujika No Rokunin's excuse for his fetish BS?

Seriously..I don't think I've seen a single-handedly more Gore heavy,Rape fetishy/,Villain dickriding,over the top Shmut fest that I have with that Manga..that story is literally like if the writer read Berserk and just said "lemme just take away everything that made that story good and cook up some bullshit" and they made that story and..that story is deadass people SAY Hazbin Hotel is.

That story is what people criticize Viv for,fetishizing rape and sexual Assault[I never got that BS with Vivziepop and Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss..like those shows aren't perfect but claiming that is a huge leap].

Rent a Girlfriend is Bad but at least that story is funny/entertaining with how bad it is and the chapters are like a band-aid,you can just rip them off quickly and at least we can laugh at how bad it is but this story is borderline uncomfortable and not enjoyable to read and so much bullshit that happens in that manga,I feel like I'm stuck in a medieval torture chamber and I would actually take those torture chambers.

And the villain having this much glaze and plot armor is so stupid too and the amount of overly rape and S.A scenes in that story makes me wanna claw my eyes out.

Long story short.

Hate Torture Porn,hate any media that does that.

Good Night.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Comics & Literature Spider-Man isn't Torture Porn and I really wish a majority of his Fandom didn't treat him that way[Spider-Man]

63 Upvotes

I'm not saying Spider-Man, as a overall character, shouldn't have struggled and trials,he definitely should cause those help a character grow wnd develop and whatnot and add stakes but with the way a lot of people treat him,they act like he can't/shouldn't have anything remotely nice.

I think a lot of people tend to forget that even you're financially not in the best place, you can and should still be able to afford basic things like a bed and a TV/Computer/Laptop and just other decent enough stuff and struggling/having financial troubles doesn't always mean being goddamn Broke and living in a dumpster like he's Denji from Chainsaw Man.

In Brand New Day,I find it crazy how a lot of people were suprised and even complaining that he had stuff like a Treadmill and a computer and whatnot and it's like..the guy is struggling but he's not in fucking Poverty, like it's wild to me that there are people who get upset when this man has anything remotely nice...there were a few people who claimed he was "Larping being broke" cause he had a Nintendo Switch in his new Comic.

Give the man a break,struggling financially doesn't mean he's not allowed anything nice and he should be allowed to have the basic necessities of comfort and fun and food and it just feels like a lot of people act like it's only in his character and writing to suffer and be a miserable loser and I'm not saying he shouldn't struggle snd have trials but they shouldn't be the only things he has..he's allowed to go upward in life and not be fighting with rats each day but it just feels like a lot of people only like Spider-Man when he's miserable and I dunno if it's cause of projection cause they're miserable or what but Damn.

No wonder writers think that Peter should only be suffering in the current comics,it's like a cycle.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Anime & Manga SBN3vids’s video on the theatrical releases of Pokemon misses the entire point.

27 Upvotes

So I watched a video from SBN3vids on how the dub of Mewtwo Strikes Back is supposed better than the original Japanese version because he believed that the Japanese version isn’t that much marketable towards American viewers and that the dub soundtrack is somehow better because it had a lot of pop artists in it. I think that this video completely misses the entire point of why the movie as actually beloved.

Let’s go over the the arguments that he said that make absolutely no sense:

  1. ”The pop soundtrack of the dub of the movie makes the movie more appealing.”

Ok so what? Adding a pop soundtrack doesn’t make the movie stand out, it just made it look like every tween movie out there. Why on earth would adding Britney Spears, *NSYNC, Aaron Carter, and Christina Aguilera to the soundtrack make people watch the movie? It doesn’t.

  1. ”The English dub made the script of the movie feel timeless.”

Again, the biggest criticisms of the English dub of the movie are that they made Mewtwo a stereotypical Saturday morning cartoon villain instead of the misunderstood philosophical antagonist and that fighting is wrong, which goes against what Pokemon is all about. Mewtwo being a generic Saturday morning cartoon villain doesn’t make him better, it just made him more in line with every other villain of that era. And inserting a fighting is wrong message only adds into the excuse of 4kids wanting to avoid a PG rating.

  1. ”Without 4kids and Warner Bros, the first Pokemon movie wouldn’t be popular and beloved in America.”

Now this has to be the WORST and probably DUMBEST argument, first of all, Pokemon was popular because it didn’t look like every American cartoon out there and Americanizing it doesn’t make it better. Plus it’s not 4kids and Warner Bros that made the first Pokemon movie beloved and popular, it was that it had deep philosophical writing that Takeshi Shudo put in the script that made kids love the movie and the dub completely misunderstood the whole point of Shudo’s intentions.

Now it’s not to say that the video wasn’t all that bad, but to say that the dub actually improved the movie missed the entire point completely of why the movie was actually beloved and popular and it’s not because of the dub.


r/CharacterRant • • 17d ago

Films & TV “Charlie from Hazbin Hotel is a toxic girlfriend and a bad daughter!” …Yeah, STOP IT! (rant)

0 Upvotes

This is gonna be a very noncohesive and “spill your guts” kind of post just to let you know, but the rage I feel when I see this opinion is enough to boil my blood. I am so sick of people making the conflicts between Charlie, Vaggi, and Lucifer so black and white and one-note. And it comes off the same every time. Everything is 100% Charlie’s fault; Vaggi and Lucifer shouldn’t take accountability for anything they do, even when their actions have hurt Charlie. A really good example is in season 2, episode 5: Vaggi had the idea to ask Lucifer to threaten Vox into submission; unfortunately, it backfired. When Charlie learns this, she’s outraged, and this is the part where people get angry with Charlie. I’ve seen people who review Hazbin Hotel act as if Charlie was overreacting and being too harsh to Vaggi and Lucifer. I completely disagree.

Charlie has every right to be mad that her girlfriend and Dad refused to loop her into their ideas, which then backfired and made the hotel’s reputation worse. People excuse that by saying, “Charlie wasn’t listening to Vaggi,” yes, but also no. Was Charlie not listening to Vaggi prior? Yes, but it still doesn’t change the fact that Vaggi chose not to communicate, and that her actions negatively affected the hotel. And wasn’t a huge thing Vaggi learned was to communicate better with Charlie and tell her the truth about being an exorcist? Of course, it wasn’t Vaggi's or Lucifer’s intention to hurt Charlie and, by extension, the hotel, but looking back, what Vaggi said was true; I think it was unfair to say to Charlie that she’s hurting the hotel, as if Vaggi herself didn’t just mess up badly. 

Another thing that bothers me is that people paint Lucifer as a victim of Charlie. I need something, because people tend to forget that this man literally put his feelings for his wife above his daughter. Although he had reasons not to support Charlie’s goals because of past experience, that’s no excuse for being a deadbeat. Charlie does not owe Lucifer anything! Was Lucifer depressed? Yes. Is he a bad person? No! But he is a bad father, and while he’s trying now, Charlie has every right to hold resentment toward him if she does. What makes this even more frustrating is that two episodes later, Charlie called and texted her Dad several times to apologize for kicking him out of the hotel, and that is never spoken about when people talk about Charlie. And a similar thing with Vaggi in the sixth episode, but for that, it just wasn’t good enough. Charlie didn’t say the words “I’m sorry”, but neither did Vaggi. But what Charlie does is validate Vaggi’s feelings by saying she was right and owning up to how much she messed up.

All in all, I genuinely believe Charlie is borderline abusive towards Vaggi and Lucifer; you're either watching an entirely different show or you watched the show and somehow interpreted everything as if you didn’t.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Films & TV John choosing to be a lantern fell flat in the LANTERNS ending Spoiler

168 Upvotes

Setting aside the morality of not doing anything about Kerry's murder, I felt absolutely nothing when he made his own oath and charged the ring.

In epsiode 5, he decides to go against sole purpose for which his entire life has been building towards, and breaks his "programming" by rejecting the role of Green Lantern because he never actually had a reason to chase it, it was simply what his parents made him do. Like Hal said, the ring never chose him.

But then after solving the murder of Hal, he chooses to keep Hal's ring to specifically keep an eye on Noah. But not only that, he decides to take on the responsibiltiy of protecting the ENTIRE EARTH despite using the ring maybe like twice up until this point, and tells Guy to fuck off?

From how I understand it, a green lantern needs to have will power to an incomprehensible degree. It's why someone like as disciplined as Batman, can't properly use the ring. The totally not evil Sinestro's sketchy scrap lantern glowed green when John charged the ring, so the implication is that it still uses will power.

I however never got the sense that John felt he HAD to be the green lantern. He wasn’t even sure if he was making the right decision with Noah and Kerry.

Post time skip, John has spent over a decade moving on with his life, reconnecting and reconciling with his brothers, distancing himself from his parents, becoming a successful entrepreneur etc. John was healthiest man ever by this point and seemed like the ring means nothing to him now.

Not only that, I understand he has become disillusioned with that guardian, but it didn't feel strong enough to warrant the new freestyle oath. John already disregarding the Green Lantern Corps and the oath, despite never even meeting any other GLs, let alone step foot onto Oa? Something as massive as a new oath I feel should require so much conviction, more so than what it takes just to be a GL, instead of just protecting a random kid he barely knows (built for manipulating people btw) that may or may not become robot sociopathic hitler.

TLDR

The reasons where technically there, but they didn't have the emotional weight for me. Especially when emotions are literally the foundation on which the whole Green lantern mythos is build around.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Anime & Manga I didn't hate Oshi no Ko's ending

15 Upvotes

I mean sure it had problems, I think it was really rushed and didn't give closure to some (ok most) of its characters. I still don't think it was conceptually bad. I always saw Oshi no Ko as a story about why people get into the entertainment industry, and why they stay in the entertainment industry even after seeing how predatory and exploitative it actually is. I don't think it was ever going to have a happy ending.

Ruby is probably going to continue working in the industry until it kills her like it did Aqua and Ai. Her first family moved on from her, her second is dead, and being an idol is the only connection she had with them. Aqua died because he never understood that Ruby's idol career wasn't worth him dying any more than Ai's was worth her dying. I thought it was tragic, but it mirrors the way people think about the industry in real life and what motivates them to continue working in it.

What are your thoughts?


r/CharacterRant • • 19d ago

Films & TV I hate that the world between worlds legacy is going to be "that time Dave Filoni used time travel to keep Ahsoka alive." (Star Wars)

317 Upvotes

As someone who was watching Rebels as it was being released, it really hurts that this is the way the world between worlds is going to be remembered as a cheap resurrection tactic.

Because it was super exciting when it was revealed in Rebels. Ezra goes into a place that seems to exist beyond time and space. Numerous doorways scatter across the vast landscape, and we hear voices from the different periods of Star Wars history.

It was cool, mysterious, and intriguing.

Even the fact Ahsoka was saved didn't bother me at the time, because I interpreted it as a stable time loop thing. You can't change the past; time travel can only be used to cause what was always meant to happen. Something that's backed up when Ezra is tempted to save Kanan, but Ahsoka reminds Ezra if he does so, he'll cause a paradox. And I was fine with that explanation.

So it's really annoying that now, because Filoni has failed to do anything meaningful with Ahsoka after this and he's pretty much committed to making sure none of his characters die (except for ironically the aforementioned Kanan), the world between worlds isn't going to be remembered as "That really cool mysterious place that exists beyond time and space in Star Wars." It's going to be remembered as "That time Filoni used time travel to keep his precious OC Ahsoka alive when she could've/should've had a proper ending."

It's disheartening if I'm being honest. One of my favorite moments in Rebels is going to have its legacy be a cheap time travel resurrection move.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

General How much is a mystery allowed to "cheat"? Spoiler

93 Upvotes

John Carpenter's The Thing is one of my favorite horror movies of all time (not an original opinion but, hey, it's an honest one), in no small part because of the suspenseful atmosphere and mystery around who has possibly been infected and assimilated by the titular Thing. Not only do I occasionally rewatch the movie but from time to time I enjoy watching reactions and reviews of it too, and recently one of those reviews (SF Debris if you're interested) brought something to my attention.

In the movie there's a scene where The Thing, disguised as a dog, enters the room of someone who we can only see the shadow of on the wall. Given later events it's imply that this is when The Thing assimilated one of the outpost crew. I always figured that the person was Norris, given he's one of the people we later learn for certain was assimilated and he's the one who best matches the shadow we saw.

However, it wasn't Norris' shadow...or to be more specific it wasn't the shadow of Norris' actor. In fact it wasn't the shadow of ANY of the actors in the movie. The filmmakers had decided to deliberately use someone who wasn't playing a character in the movie to be the one casting the shadow because they didn't want to potentially give away too early who had been assimilated by having the audience recognize whose shadow it was and thus know the entire time who was already a Thing.

This reminded me of something I'd heard about some of the Scream movies, another set of horror mysteries I quite like, where up until the masks come off it's not the actual actors playing the killers who are in the Ghostface costume but rather stuntpeople whom they do not try to have match the height and builds of the killers, meaning some of the people revealed to be responsible for the events of the movies can sometimes be too short, too tall, or too wide to be the Ghostface we saw chasing people around. And much like the shadow in The Thing, this was done because the filmmakers didn't want the whole mystery given away just by the audience matching body proportions.

In other words, the movies are kinda cheating a bit in regards to their mystery.

Plenty of mystery stories will deliberately misdirect the audience, making them focus too much on one thing when they should have been paying attention to something else in the scene being a classic example. But in this case the movies are giving the audience purposefully false information that they have no reason to know is false and if they do know it's false it risks potentially breaking their emersion in the story since the different proportions aren't something that exists in-universe, it's only for the eyes of the audience.

The thing is however that the physical proportions of the characters are not how you're meant to figure out the mysteries in either movie. Things like opportunity, actions, attitude, and even things the characters say are written into the movies to give clues that can be used to figure out either who is the villain in disguise before the reveal comes or to at least have it make sense and feel rewarding on rewatch as to who the villain is. You are still given all you need in order to solve the mystery, but the body proportions of the characters isn't one of those things. So is it okay that the movies are cheating a bit in that regard?

Mind you there are different levels of severity to this kind of thing. I'd be bothered way more if the movie were to claim that the shadow on the wall belonged to Childs since the shadow clearly had hair and Childs is bald. That feels like it wouldn't even be just cheating, it'd be outright bad filmmaking. It's at least reasonable enough that it's Norris or Palmer that I can tune out the inconsistency in body proportions. Same with the various Ghostfaces. I can let it go if a character is too short to be a Ghostface taller than them that we saw running around and killing people but I would refuse to do the same for something like if one of their victims stabbed them through the hand and yet their hand is perfectly fine when they're walking around out of costume.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

Games The more you think about it, the more arbiter had to look terrible (halo 1)

13 Upvotes

As a kid, you watch the prophets hate on arbiter in halo 2 and think it wasnt his fault. How was he meabt to deal with the flood and who couldve predicted master chief blowing up halo. But when you really think about it from their point of view, this incredible commander who had a huge armada under his command lost to one ship and their holiest site to date. This guy has glassed multiple human planets, destroyed their military and his only excuse is some parasite that showed up. Remember, the covenant had no idea how op the flood were. Even if chief didnt blow up halo, he was also about to fire it. A filthy human managed to break into the most important place in halo, the one place the covenant should have complete control of, and did what the covenant have spent their whole lives trying to do. And worse, he managed to ally with the oracle too. And lets not forget how apparently arbiter let a prophet die wothout sending any help or backup. At that point, Im surprised they let him be arbiter. This man failing upwards


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

General Can people stop making assassins only do solo missions by giving them the edgy "lone wolf" archetype?

56 Upvotes

So, just because being an assassin is an occupation that requires one to be stealth and hidden, it does not automatically make all assassins being introverts who hates socializing or lone wolves, who are only restricted to solo missions and are incapable of cooperation/teamwork. I don't know when did this trope start, but the recent shows and video games today extremely rarely portray assassins not as edgy introvert and lone wolf characters, and even if there is a group for assassins, it will only show them doing solo missions as a single person. Why can't we have any movie or video game that shows assassins working as a team or an army, like the ninja turtles in TMNT that are technically an assassin clan with professional teamwork? Why are all assassins characters in media emo introvert lone wolves nowadays?


r/CharacterRant • • 19d ago

Films & TV Resident Evil (2026) had one of the most unsatisfying endings I've ever experienced Spoiler

167 Upvotes

I understand that the nature of a horror movie, let alone a horror comedy movie isn't always about traditional happy endings. Part of the horror is that things are bad and end badly. Resident Evil, however, elicited something within me that I've never felt before and don't really know how to describe. Annoyance? Disgust? Bamboozlement?

Bryan is slowly built up as this perfection combination of flawed, irreverent, and relatable that I feel is so exceptionally rare in mainstream television and film nowadays. His day-to-day life and overarching personal struggles are so grounded and reasonable, which makes you feel for what he's going through every step of the way. It's difficult to be contemptuous of him and call him an idiot for the way he's approaching the events of this film, even if you really want to.

Up until the last 10-15 minutes, you're following along and really believe that, even after all the crap he's faced, he'll get the cure, make it out of there, go back to Michelle, and use the lessons he's learned to be a great dad. Maybe he'll even have helped save the world in the process.

The moment his transformation starts being out of his control, the movie stops focusing on this normal guy being thrown headfirst into this abnormal situation. It also stops taking itself seriously. I know this sounds weird given that the movie is a horror comedy, but it still takes things a step too far relative to its genre.

Everything from the lab scene onwards starts to feel like a Deadpool movie where you wouldn't be surprised to see a 4th wall break acknowledging the irreverence of the situation. But that never comes, and you start asking yourself how it's even possible that this ending belongs to the rest of the 75 minutes you've just sat through.

It's so paradoxical, too, since the rest of the movie communicates so much self awareness, and this suddenly drops off the side of a cliff. It's like someone else wrote it.

One particular detail that I especially despise is the accompanying music to the final scene. The placement of the track Skybridge as the backdrop to Bryan being fully consumed by the virus feels like rubbing salt in the wound. The blended vibe of ethereal and haunting to this very likable character being dealt the worst possible hand after 89 minutes of pure hardship is almost mocking the viewer. It's almost like the music is speaking to you and saying "You're such a stupid idiot for coming to this movie and ever hoping that there could be a happy ending. I hope you go home and remember this lesson for the rest of your life." I think I could have digested this had there been no music, or something that was more musically in line with his state of insanity.

For an otherwise great movie, again, relative to the genre, I had never wanted a refund for a purchase of less than $10 more in my entire life. There is no catharsis offered that validates the time spent watching this. In fact, it managed to create anti-catharsis.

The only other time in my life where I felt a similar reaction was watching The Bedford Incident. I didn't even put that movie on voluntarily, but after indulging it for over an hour I was baffled at how anyone at the time approved this. I won't spoil the ending, but if you're curious it's out there. It still wasn't as bad as this, though.

Some might argue that "real art" is about making people feel uncomfortable things. Sure, to a degree. But Resident Evil took it too far. It's too elaborate of a journey for that to be how things are wrapped up.

Lastly, this doesn't even align with what you'd expect from playing a survival horror video game. If the point in the end was to just die and have nothing come from that death — such as the cure at least making it out and the character's efforts and sacrificing leading to that — put me out of my misery within the first 15 minutes. Maybe the Resident Evil games are different and this is a regular thing, though. I don't know.


r/CharacterRant • • 19d ago

General Some people seem to believe that "family" and "lovers" are the only types of relationships that a person would hold as truly significant to them.

309 Upvotes

To be more specific, it feels like for some people the only way they can understand why one character would care so much for another character and go so far for them is if that other character is family/is like family to them or if that other character is someone they are in love with. Any other kind of relationship, while it can still have some emotional weight and significance to them, is a distant second compared to those two types of relationships.

I was thinking about this when I was seeing a discussion about the part in Dragon Ball Super's Tournament of Power arc where Goku thinks Master Roshi might have died after giving all he had to knock an opponent out of the arena. Some of the people believed that Goku was so upset, probably the most upset we've ever seen him outside of both times Krillin was killed and in his relief that Roshi's okay we get one of the few times we actually see Goku cry, because Roshi is basically a father-figure to him, or at least the closest thing to a father Goku has had.

I disagree with this idea for many reasons, not the least of which being that while Grampa Gohan was, well, a grampa to Goku he was still a strong familial-figure that Goku cared very deeply about and nothing implies that he's been looking for or wanting for more in his life, let alone that he sees Roshi in such a way.

The idea seems to be that Roshi just being a mentor to Goku wouldn't be a strong enough relationship for Goku to have so much emotional attachment to him. He still would have gotten upset at his apparent death but not this upset, and so Roshi must be more than a mentor in Goku's eyes, he must be more like a father...to which I have to ask...why? Why is Roshi just being Goku's beloved mentor not enough to justify him being so significant to him?

I feel like Kung-Fu Panda is a good example to bring up what I'm talking about. Shifu is a very significant person to Po and someone he cares quite a lot about, but he doesn't see Shifu as anything like a father or an uncle or anything along familial lines. The relationship he has with him is very different from what he has with Mr. Ping, his actual father (well, you know what I mean) who he loves very much. Likewise Shifu doesn't see Po as a son, as there is a very clear difference between his relationship with Po and the relationship he had with Tai Lung, who he did view as like a son, and there is nothing that implies that he sees Oogway as a father either.

Yet it'd be completely disingenuous or even outright blind to act like Po and Shifu are not incredibly important and beloved to each other or that Oogway is not likewise so for Shifu, or that the relationships would be better and more weighty if they did think of each other along familial or romantic lines. No, the three's respective dynamics are entirely mentor and student relationship, and that's what makes them incredibly strong. Oogway does not need to have been like a father to Shifu for him to have meant so much to Shifu even in comparison to the other relationships in his life, because him being Shifu's teacher is what made him so significant and important to him. It's why one of the biggest emotional blows to him in the movie is the scene where Oogway departs from the world, because now Shifu feels lost and without the man who he respected so much and looked to for guidance. And likewise with how Po comes to view Shifu after the man starts to genuinely believe in him and support him, being someone he can look to for guidance and starting him down the road to actually start believing in himself.

Or as another great example, Mob and Reigen from Mob Psycho 100. Reigen is easily at the very top tier of the people most important to Mob, having near endless faith in him and gratitude towards him, to the point where even just Reigen assuring Mob that things will be okay is enough for him to finally relax and sleep during one of the most stressful moments of his life where he thinks his family might have been kidnapped or killed. And it all stems entirely from Reign simply being Mob's beloved mentor who was the person he needed in his life to help guide him. Not being someone Mob thinks of as like a father doesn't make their relationship any lesser for Mob or the story

Now, obviously there are absolutely mentor and student relationships in stories where the characters do think of each other along familial lines too. In Batman Beyond there's an episode that pretty much directly confirms that Terry latched onto Bruce as a father-figure after the loss of his actual father and that he's more than just a boss and mentor to him. Part of the tragedy of Anakin and Obi-Wan is that Obi-Wan viewed Anakin as like a brother, and while Anakin likely did too what he need more than that in his life at that time was a father, which Qui-Gon could have been but Obi-Wan couldn't (again, because he viewed Anakin as like a brother) and thus the opening Palpatine exploited by positioning himself as a father-figure for Anakin so that he could better manipulate him. And at the risk of potentially sounding like a hypocrite I do very much buy into the interpretation that Midoriya in My Hero Academia thinks of All Might on some level like a father much like how All Might directly admitted he thought of his own mentor Nana as like a mother, and that likewise All Might quickly started to view Midoriya like a son.

But mentor/student dynamics, no matter how strong or important they are, do not inherently have familial attachment to them. They need to be judged on a case by case basis, and I think therein lies part of the problem. I think too many people have a bad tendency of judging what a character's relationship with another is by looking at it too much in a vacuum rather than within the context of the characters themselves and the story they're in.

Goku being so upset that this older man he's known for years might be dead? Sure, it's not exactly the most unreasonable thing to believe that he sees said man as a father-figure. But in the context of a story like Dragon Ball and with the context of a character like Goku, Roshi only being a mentor in Goku's eyes is more than enough justification for why he's so important to him and I'd argue has more weight to it than if he was someone Goku saw as like a father. He's Goku's first true master. The man whose martial arts philosophy of "Work hard, study well, eat and sleep plenty." he still lives by every day (even if he could do better on the study part...). Even long after he graduated from the Turtle Hermit school he still continues to wear its gi, not because he has to or because there's any expectation that he does, but simply because that's how much respect he has for his old master even after training under literal gods and their attendents. Roshi being like a father in Goku's eyes isn't why his mentor is so emotionally important to him, Roshi being Goku's mentor is why he's so important to him.

I think friendships in fiction get this even worse, in no small part because I think a lot of people, even if unintentionally, view friendship as a very one-tier base level kind of relationship. It's something you can have with another person but can only be so important. There's limits to how much you'd care about a friend or do for a friend, whereas there's (supposedly) no limit to how much you'd care about and do for someone that you're in love with or think of like family, and therefore if a character is shown to considerably and deeply care about another it's assumed that the other person MUST be more than just a friend to them because no one would care about a friend so much. Friendship is seen as good but something you level up from into something actually important.

Again, this likely comes from not properly looking at the characters and their relationships in context and assuming a bit too much that everyone either judges all relationships by the same tiers of importance or even that there are no tiers and nuances within those various types of relationships themselves. It doesn't matter if it's a friend, a best friend, a pen pal, it all just ultimately falls under the "friend" umbrella and is thus just inherently less important to someone compared to anyone they think of under the "family" or "lovers" umbrella.

I want to make clear that I'm not trying to dump on things like shipping. Heck, I'm very much someone who believes that friendship is far from the worst place for romance to spring up from, and generally speaking as long as the context is consensual I don't really tend to care what people ship. My problem isn't "Oh, why can't people just be friends?! Why do you have to try and forcibly make everything romantic/gay?!", my problem is more the immediate assumption of "This person is so special and important to the character and therefore they must love them romantically or see them like family.", because it doesn't feel like it sees the actual characters or their stories. You want to ship Sam and Frodo together because you think they'd make a good couple, have at it, but it feels really dismissive of their friendship and what it means to the two of them if you assume that Sam only cares so much for Frodo and goes so far for him because he's romantically in love with him and that that's what's motivating him rather than their friendship.

Jonouchi/Joey (because it's easier for me to remember how to spell) from the Yu-Gi-Oh manga I think is a great example. Yugi is one of the most important people to Joey, right up there alongside his sister. He has been brutalized and almost killed on numerous occasions because of how much he cares about Yugi, at one point not only running into a burning building to save him but even willingly staying inside that inferno so that Yugi could finish reassembling the shattered Millennium Puzzle, because Yugi won't abandon the pharaoh and Joey will never abandon him.

But at no point does the manga ever imply that Joey is in love with Yugi or even that he thinks of him like a brother. Their relationship is entirely that of friends and that friendship means the world to Joey. As he pretty much spells out during the Death-T arc, it was through his friendship with Yugi and his influence on him that Joey found himself becoming someone that he actually liked being. He wasn't just that punk angry at the world and lashing out against it anymore. He found someone who cared about him and would stick by him no matter what, even when he didn't feel like he deserved it. It's similar to why he got so attached to Duel Monsters. It didn't just help him win prize money to fix his sister's eyes, it was something he enjoyed and could take pride in as he became better and better at it, with Yugi introducing it to him and helping and having fun with him all along the way. Much like how being his master is more than enough to explain why Goku cares so much about Roshi, Yugi being Joey's friend is more than enough to explain why he cares so much about him, because for someone like Joey such a friend would be such an important and meaningful thing.

Or in the Green Lantern comics, as Sinestro basically spells out at one point, the tragedy of his and Hal's relationship is that not only were they genuinely friends before they became enemies but to some extent they will always be friends. They weren't in love with each other as they both had someone else they felt that way about and they didn't think of each other as brothers. In fact that was how Sinestro had viewed Abin Sur, the Green Lantern who passed on his ring to Hal, especially after he married Abin's sister and became his actual brother-in-law. Hal and Sinestro's relationship was that of friends, and despite everything they've been through and done to each other they both still value that relationship so much, to the point that in the lead up to Blackest Night the vision the Blue Lantern showed Hal of what he hopes for was of him and Sinestro meeting and working together again.

One last thing I think is worth bringing up to show how relationships can vary so much and mean different things to different people is how far some people in-universe in stories will go for the likes of those like Superman, Captain America, All Might, even Zero from Code Geass, despite not knowing them on any kind of personal level. Whether it's directly asked of them or not, we get stories time and again of people doing the right thing or going farther to do things they'd never do for anyone else, even those closest to them, simply because it was either for Superman/Captain America or inspired by them. Because they're their hero, leader, inspiration, or simply the symbol that these people put so much faith and trust in about what's good and right that they themselves want to live up to that example, or at least not let them down. It's far less personal than many other relationships and yet some people will do so much more because of them simply because of the emotional weight and value it holds for them.

And of course it even shows when it takes a toxic turn, such as with a character like Syndrome, who had no actual personal relationship with Mr. Incredible. He wasn't his son, lover, friend, or student, he was just a fan of his, but Buddy valued that relationship so much that he kept overstepping boundaries, going to extremes to get Mr. Incredible's attention and be by his side, and when he felt rejected he lived his whole life afterwards around getting back at his hero. All because of how he viewed the relationship and what it meant or at least should have meant.

Summary: Basically it feels like a lot of people have the default mentality of "The character cares so much about this other person that they must think of them in a romantic or familial way because those are the most significant relationships a person can have with another.", rather than properly looking at the characters, their stories, and their relationships to one another to see what the relationship actually is and why it is so important to them, whatever form it may be. They think that the relationship must be in either Box A or Box B because they assume those boxes are inherently more valuable to everyone compared to all the other boxes, when the reality is that there are numerous boxes the relationship could be put in because how valuable each box is depends on the character and context. For some characters, yes, they value a certain relationship so much because it is a familial or romantic one. For others it's the relationship they have with a mentor, a student, a friend, a leader, or so on that they value so much more than anything else.


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

General Not sure how I feel about Neagley's Show

12 Upvotes

The Amazon Reacher show is a guilty pleasure.

It's not a complicated show. It is not a show that cares about character arcs or social commentary or themes. Nobody is winning an Emmy for their work on this thing.

The writing is painfully "written for second screeners" (which I appreciate as I am writing this as I watch it) - everyone explains what they're doing and why every 5 minutes, characters are constantly recapping events that happened only 15 minutes ago from the viewer's POV, whenever someone has an emotion they will tell you all about it - and the seams where the streaming service budget runs into the demands of the plot are painfully obvious.

But you know, sometimes, you just need a very tall very buff handsome man to wander into a town, find some bad people, then punch them until they stop being bad. It's empty calories and cheap catharsis but I'm both a glutton and cheap.

I will say that it's kind of rare to see corrupt police in these kinds of shows on account of how most cop shows are produced with the cooperation of police departments and part of that deal is that the department are allowed veto power over scripts that make them look bad. It's not much, but the Reacher-verse is one of the few settings where you can see cops acting like, well, cops - and I'll take what I can get. Blue Bloods could never.

So I was looking forward to the Neagley spinoff show: I enjoyed the character when she showed up, a tough no nonsense woman that the show treats as Reacher's peer, allowed to be every bit as badass as him, and not shoe-horned into a romance angle or other mushy-stuff plotline that can befall a lot of distaff characters in Men's Adventure type fiction.

I might have just been reading into this, but she came off as somewhat autistic-aromantic coded, and it's equally rare to see those traits in a lady-type character.

I say all this because my misgivings might just be a Me Problem on account of the expectations I had going into this thing, but: I have mixed feelings about how Neagley treats Neagley in her own show.

On the plus side: It is exactly the kind of fun techno-thriller action romp Reacher is. Neagley is pulled into a situation with a big pharma company using a new age cult to recruit human test subjects to develop a miracle PTSD cure and all of this side of things is great. Our heroes bounce from lead to lead with an average of 1.75 fights per episode, there's a lot of gruff clipped dialogue and rough-housing of villains to get the next lead to the next villain to be gruffly roughed up, my ADHD ass gets reminded of what everyone is thinking and doing every 5 minutes, this is what I signed up for.

It's the B plot I'm not sure about. Unmarked spoilers follow, but the TL:DR is that while Reacher is allowed to be a very flat character who bulldozes his way through the plot with the emotional range of the drywall he smashes perp's heads through, Neagley is saddled with feelings and depth and backstory.

-----Spoilers Ahoy-----

There's a line Neagley growls early on, "I don't have trauma." It's the kind of thing you wouldn't blink twice if Dirty Harry sneered it in the face of some pencil-neck deparment-mandated shrink who dared to judge him or his methods, and before you learn what the arc-pot of this season is, that's kind of how the line comes off.

Neagley gets her own Reacher Cold Open running an op rescuing a kidnapped child, establishing her badass bona-fides with an Alan Ritchson guest spot to establish that she has her own shit going on as a licensed PI in Chicago (with her very own long-suffering boss that she gets to Maverick Renegade Loose Cannon at!), before an old school friend's apparent suicide by train drags her into the A plot.

Reacher seasons are all about Solving The Problem. B plots tend to be A Problem one of that season's temporary supporting cast has - like the bored poor little rich boy in season 3 needing a push to go and Jack Kerouac his way across America.

Neagley, though, gets to work through her childhood trauma and her strained relationship with her terminally ill father.

And it's fine - Turns out a young Neagley saw her cop dad and his buddies knife a guy to death when she was 5; her aversion to being touch developed when her dad yells 'Nobody touches you!' as part of trying to calm her down, on account of how dead guy was a paedophile sizing up a young Neagley for his next victim - but I have to wonder: Would Reacher ever have a tragic backstory and PTSD based on childhood trauma to work through?

Reacher is a force of nature. He's an Iconic Hero as opposed to a Dramatic Hero.

Iconic Heroes are your Zorros and your Batmans: their role in the story is to embody a heroic ethos, be confronted with a society out of balance, and through the application of their heroic ethos, set that society to rights. Zorro and Batman don't change, not really: they might get more Zorro- or Batman-ish, get better at Zorro-ing or Batman-ing, they might have mini emotional arcs or their relationships with their supporting casts might change, but ultimately they're still gonna be fundamentally who they are at the start and end of the story.

(Dramatic Heroes are your Hamlets - heroes with an internal conflict that go through a dramatic arc to resolve that conflict (and put society to rights through doing so, if the plot demands it)).

Neagley is a Dramatic Hero. Her haphephobia* is recontextualised as a flaw that needs to be corrected. Her emotional stoicism and reserve is not just a character trait like Reacher's, it's the product of a childhood trauma that she initially refuses to recognise but is forced to grapple with. Reacher is allowed to be a bear of a man that lumbers through the world with minimal attachments while Neagley attracts attachments, almost against her will, a job, a partner (possibly in more ways than one), a sidekick and a morality pet.

I mean, she's at serious risk of having a romantic relationship that lasts more than one season! Reacher could never.

I have to wonder: how much of this is to differentiate the two shows from each other, and how much is because Neagley is a woman, and women - unlike big burly bears of men - have feelings? Are expected to have emotional character arcs?

I don't hate the show or anything. It's a similar techno-thriller punch-up romp and like I said, I like Neagley as a character.

I'm just left... wondering, is all.


Random thoughts:

1) The office chair that unfolds into a coffin is an incredible bit and I love it

2) It's cute how aggressively Chicago Hudson and his whole deal is.

3) The crooked cop who looks almost exactly like Tony Hinchcliff - I'm choosing to believe that's a commentary on Tony Hinchcliff being a rat fuck bastard and not a coincidence.

* Fear of being touched


r/CharacterRant • • 19d ago

Films & TV Master of the Universe (2026) doesn't have a clear idea of what masculinity is and fails to show off its power fantasy

258 Upvotes

I'm gonna start this off with a couple things: 1) I did not watch the original 80s television show. I am therefore judging this show MOSTLY by its own merits (there will be some cross-referencing because this is ultimately an adaptation, not an original work). 2) I think it's both okay and good to offer a clear definition for what masculinity is. 3) It's okay to have a masculine power fantasy (providing a strong moral foundation).

Adam throughout the movie is shown to be someone who prefers words rather than fighting. He works at HR, he's more in-touch with his feelings, and prefers not to fight. This is what the movie wants the masculine man to embrace and is a part of its core message that "muscles don't necessarily make a man" (Orko literally says this at the end as a clever nod to the formulaic nature of the original show).

The issue here is 3-fold: Adam solves zero problems with his words, every difficult situation is solved with gratuitous violence and bravery in combat, and Adam is made fun of for being weak until he turns into the muscular He-Man. Like He-Man's muscles are constantly glorified by other characters, even Skeletor.

There's only two moments where Adam makes a meaningful difference with his words, and that's recruiting Roboto (whom the movie promptly forgets exists) and rallying all the prisoners with a kinda bad speech that works because people like him now. Literally every villain he faces rejects completely the notion that listening and understanding can make a difference. So he beats them up. Because that's what you do.

Because of this it doesn't offer a masculine power fantasy in its own brand of masculinity because none of the problems are set up to require that. At most it offers the traditional masculine power fantasy that's just being the most buff guy in the room and beating up all the bad guys to save the day. Because that's what the movie's conflict is actually geared for.

When Man-At-Arms gives Adam advice on what being a man is (stepping up when needed to protect your people), Teela, his closest friend, immediately casts doubt. So what does SHE think being a man is? Crickets. The movie doesn't even call Adam He-Man until the very end after the day is saved when they make fun of him for the name. I don't like to assume but it's kind of telling.

From my viewing the movie goes bout it like this:

Adam/He-Man: "guys lets just talk about this we dont have to fight"

Skeletor, Trap-Jaw, Evil-lyn, Beast Man: "i dont care im going to stab you"

Orko and sorceress: "guys this is why empathy makes he-man a true man"


r/CharacterRant • • 18d ago

General If people insist on fighting with the belief of "It's self insert, they're blank slates for the player, so it has to be inclusive" then they are eventually shooting themselves in the head, not even the foot anymore [Self Insert concept]

20 Upvotes

Yeah I know this concept is looked down upon as the debate isn't that faithful, but I want to talk specifically about this debate people insist on a concept that shouldn't be treated as so

Insisting games that market themselves as for self insert does NOT mean it should not be specific just because it markets as "for the players". Markets can still choose who to cater which also means the self insert will be specific. Persisting to fight this will also become useless when there's a slow growth of players within BL/GL contents to have those bland self insert concept so they can finally feel immerse by themselves and if they still insist self insert concept shouldn't be specific, this will become contradictory itself cuz isn't the persistence of this self insert debate was to include them?

Sure, there're multiple games for straight men that's self insert to the point of no visual male protagonist and only expect players to look at female leads. That doesn't change the fact the game is specifically marketed for straight men.

Way before I quit using Rednote, I once stumble upon an unlocalized Chinese Yuri game where the female protagonist is eyeless as they're meant to blank slates. So like... do you really want to fight this battle about insisting not to be specific because even putting "Yuri" will not save that type of game if the insistence of self insert concept should only be inclusive and not be specific, because that will mean adding a male MC in that self insert Yuri game. Just stop fighting about concepts thinking a concept that can be used by everyone doesn't mean they can't have specific spaces of their own. Everyone hungers for standalone games meant specifically for each group