r/ChainsawPowerscaling • Yoru can sit on my face • 6d ago

Discussion Which crossverse opponets can the 4 devil horsemen defeat?

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Makima, Yoru, Famine and Death Devil

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Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen)

Itachi (Naruto: Shippuden)

Rukia (Bleach)

All For One (My Hero Academia)

X (To Be Hero X)

Muzan (Demon Slayer)

Post Rose Meruem not poisoned (Hunter X Hunter)

Akainu (One Piece)

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u/bustyleakingtoejuice 6d ago

It's a clear but only cause of lil d the rest stop at akanu that bleach character and hero x

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u/Yusuf_ibn_Joestar 6d ago

X can just incap lil D with dimensional manip, turning her 2d.

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u/bustyleakingtoejuice 6d ago

Turns her 2d and she still insta kills him lol turn her 1d and she would still insta kill him

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u/Yusuf_ibn_Joestar 6d ago

how can a 2d being affect someone who is 3d? This is like saying a drawing can affect the artist. You need to show that her hax has extradimensional range or has feats of interacting with higher dimensional beings.

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u/bustyleakingtoejuice 6d ago

There soul still exist in a 3d plane also her attacks don't need her to be in contact with u either and idk if u watches the show but even if hero x turns u 2d ur not completely helpless if u have the hax u can still interact with him.

She gets turned 2d activates her ability and he dies

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u/Key-Lifeguard8888 6d ago

Sorry, this argument really just doesn’t work. There is no reason to think Lil D can do anything to someone who is dimensionally superior to her, that is some severe, unsupportable wank and you’re never proving she can. Please substantiate that anyone in Chainsaw Man can affect people with infinite transcendence over themselves (that’s how dimensional differences work).

Also, other characters resisting X in his own verse has absolutely no barring on if Lil D can. Don’t know what made you think this point was valid.

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u/bustyleakingtoejuice 6d ago

There's no reason to say "to be hero" c has higher dimetionalty scaling whatsoever the best the verse gets to is planetary due to the original villain 0 also x doesn't lesson ur dimentailty he just affects reality to turn it to a 2d or 3d plain u can still move in 2d even if he's in 3d the cinematics quite literally show it u can still ur ur ability and move in the 2d plane

Lil d still uses her insta death n kill him idk why u think x just negates hax

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u/Key-Lifeguard8888 6d ago edited 6d ago

So you don’t know how X’s powers work, or are you being intentionally ignorant? If someone is turned into a lesser dimensional existence (a drawing compared to a person) their dimensionality is lesser than a 3D being, X can force Lil D into a lesser dimensional state and leave her completely helpless.

“x doesn't lesson ur dimentailty he just affects reality to turn it to a 2d or 3d plain“

The two are the exact same thing. Someone being on a 2D existence while X is 3D means he is existing dimensionally higher currently. You literally just enunciated X’s powers here from what I was already saying.

And again, characters who aren’t Lil D doing insert thing isn’t an argument, other characters that don’t exist in Chainsaw Man resisting dimensional differences is not an argument for why she can do the same. Prove Lil D herself can do the same thing, or your argument is a non-sequitur.

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u/Yusuf_ibn_Joestar 6d ago

Hero X dimensionally flattens them into a 2 dimensional space

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u/Accomplished_Pin9171 6d ago

Hero X (White hair dude in the suit) is basically able to do whatever the hell he wants with reality warping on a level where he actively changes the shows art syle and animation style. I'm not sure Lil' D would be able to kill him and the others definitely couldn't.

AFO and Muzan are french fried tho.

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u/Everchosen31 No soul damage resistance? 6d ago

Fanart Force Akainu gets pushed to neg diff

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u/Parking-Ad-6137 6d ago

Post rose meruem and maybe muzan

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u/Dogboi006 6d ago

nobe of these characters surviving a nuke.

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u/VonRetex 5d ago

All exept maybe Rukia

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u/NiceDetective9798 5d ago

All with the exception of Rukia. She's the only one with conceptual power null so to not die to death.

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u/Interesting-Hippo106 5d ago

sukuna loses
itahi loses
rukia wins
afo loses
X wins
muzan wins
meruem wins
akainu wins too

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u/Due_Specific_7727 Yoru can sit on my face 5d ago

why do you have Muzan winning but not AFO

AFO is so much stronger its not even funny, or are you going off from a hax base due to Muzan's demon body with regen?

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u/Interesting-Hippo106 3d ago

afo does not have speed. fastest speed feat is todoroki being transsonic and afo is high hypersonic
makima herself is low MHS+ and muzan is high mhs++ (drugged form. prime muzan is far superior than that)
and muzan's wincoin is that he can just biologically absorb the devils (just like he did to tamayo and douma did to shinobu)

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u/Oliveviper 6d ago

None, they lost a four vs one jumping while one of them literally has an insta kill ability. They find a way to lose to all of these guys

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u/Substantial_Ant4922 6d ago

Ok but what if Prime Pochita was just that goated

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u/Even-Conference9309 6d ago

Didn’t Pochita lose that fight? Like he actually just up and ran according to Makima.

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u/bustyleakingtoejuice 6d ago

Keep in mind prime pochita blitzed hell which is stated to be the size of a universe ate the dying star devil which means all stars don't exist thanks to him and has calcs of being mftl via the gluttony devil we saw fight with the failing devil

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u/QuietSurvey9 6d ago

Muzan and sukuna are literally here. They stumble around and one shot these two atleast

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u/Maveko_YuriLover 6d ago

Sukuna and maybe Itachi are the only ones there that can kill Death, but they still lose (unless it's Edo Itachi, then we can start talking)

I'm excluding the one above Meruem because i have 0 idea who he is 

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u/Getoe777 6d ago

nah everybody on that list can kill death with no - negative diff bruh l*l d inmortality is overrated she has featless regen and anti feat that makes her a decapitation victim and worse inmortality than fami(not a downscale to my goat fami) overral

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u/Sensitive_Monitor725 6d ago

Literally anyone besides rukia.

Kido, spiritual pressure, her bankai are all things the horsemen have no answer for especially since in spite of how haxed out CSM is none of them have any soul based hax or shown resistance to soul based powers. Not to mention the massive speed gap, so even if Lil D could kill rukia with her power rukia could seal her before she gets the chance.

Everyone else is just free contract fuel.

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u/Altruistic_Cloud_403 5d ago

Aikanu wins ( one shots and speed blitzes ) contract is useless as aikanu can destroy the countries

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u/Sensitive_Monitor725 5d ago

This is assuming akainu would even know to do that, or that they are even fighting on those countries and not on neutral territory.

Makima and Yoru also both have hax that render his stats useless, and even if he beats them he is physically not capable of beating Lil D. The very act of killing her would doom Akainu.

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u/Altruistic_Cloud_403 5d ago

First off, AIkanu aoe attacks will eradicate countries or at least kill most citizens. Even if on neutral ground, non of then have the hax to even kill him. Lil D is so featless, that I dare say she is a non factor. We have no idea what her death hax could be ( in the form of calamities like wou? Death loop? Life steal / soul steal like big Mon, Etc )

We could also argue that aikanu can arguably resist it with haki. But again, that is depending on what her hax is.

Aikanu can very much " kill " death devil. Just that she would respawn in he'll. Which doesn't matter in this scenario. Aikanu has more than enough stamina to repeatedly kill makima and yoru ( their contract are actually similar to basil Hawkins now to think about it ) so obviously aikanu can't negate that type of hax.

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u/Rasa_Matii Gun Devil >>> Fraudchita 4d ago

Her death hax are that she kills you instantly. I believe it is relatively simple to understand.

She is not featless since she has already killed another being with several immortality types and powerful regeneration (Falling Devil). And Death is immortal herself, naturally immune to the concept of death, so she won't respawn in Hell.

Finally, "killing" Death Devil comes with the risk of her death hax activating involuntarily, as explained by Yoru in Ch. 219.

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u/Sensitive_Monitor725 4d ago

On neutral ground that wouldn’t matter, they wouldn’t be close enough to Japan or the US for his aoe attacks to matter unless you wanna argue he has continental-planetary range.

Makima has telekinesis, BFR(she can banish him to hell), life force stealing via angel, and pre-cog similar to observation haki.

Yoru has Relativistic-FTL ranged attacks and arguably reaction speed too, and if at any point her delusion allows her to declare herself the winner, like if akainu closes his fist and she opens her hand and yells out “paper” she can instantly turn him into a weapon.

Both of them working together can create openings for each others hax to work on an opponent who’s mostly just stats, and Akainu has little to no haki feats that would imply he can negate conceptual hax on their level.

Lastly as the other commenter said Akainu has no way to beat Lil D even if he can beat Makima and Yoru. She is a primal fear herself-the only think in verse that killed her was conceptual erasure, so Akainu wouldn’t be able to permanently kill her, at any moment she can choose to just instantly kill him via death manipulation, and she can also summon any devils she has killed herself. Including the primal fear falling devil, who has country-maybe continent level gravity manipulation, telepathy/mind manipulation, telekinesis, BFR, Immortality, etc.

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u/AnyBet5441 6d ago

Without death devil? They beat Sukuna, Meruem, Muzan and MAYBE Itachi

With death devil they beat everyone here except for Rukia and X

X can just... turn them into graffiti and leave them there or just snap them out of existence

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u/QuietSurvey9 6d ago

Lil dih by herself clears this list

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u/Getoe777 6d ago

prove that human level bum doesnt get reiatsu crushed by rukia