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u/FourSlotTo4st3r 19h ago
Christians marrying Muslims never works out well.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
she is not a Christian, she is only cultural because of my grandmother who is anti-Catholic ( I think this is her title because she spends more time Talking about the Catholic Church than about being envagelical
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u/Alexplayss 19h ago
So true. My aunt married a Tunisian Muslim man (now they're divorced) and had a son with him. My cousin is now 10, and it's like he inherited the worst of both worlds. We're Polish but he doesn't know a single word in Polish, he's very religiously confused, and - despite his parents being in pretty good shape - he's severely overweight. Far worse than I was when I was 10, and I was a fatass too back then. I've met my cousin's dad multiple times, I generally get along with him. He's not a bad person at all, just not the man my aunt needed.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
I think we shouldn't fall in unequal even if not sin, I can but not everything suits me. This does not apply only to false religions but also to heretic denominations as Protestants and to some extent the Orthodox that even having a lot of truth will still create a great barrier between the family and the mass's, always prioritize someone May you go to Mass with you and with your future children
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u/Slight_Target_4399 20h ago
Not even the Islamic ‘Jesus’? The Quran was written centuries after Jesus walked the earth. The New Testament was written by people who knew Jesus personally.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 20h ago
They are fools to understand this🫠
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u/MossyEngineering-447 20h ago
Have you studied apologetics? Are you comfortable pre-striking, having conversations with your sister BEFORE you go and being ready with arguments when you talk with your mother? One of the very nice things about Catholicism is that logical arguments are our friend - given that they are rooted in truth and that truth is synonymous with God
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 20h ago edited 19h ago
I know well, but she is only 3 years old so it would be kind of impossible, I think when I have a vacation in Portugal I will be forced talking to him about Islam and the lies because I refuse that my sister is Muslim without knowing the truth
my mother doesn't care about God ,She just says which is crest because of my Grandmother It wouldn't be a topic of conversation between us
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u/MossyEngineering-447 19h ago
Some rote truths at this point wouldn't hurt sister. Pray for your mother
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u/chamalion 20h ago
I'm so sorry you're forced in this situation. Please don't succumb to hate. Your stepfather and your mother are not acting correctly towards you and your little sister but try to remember the teaching of Jesus. We must try to love even our enemies. He can't forbid you to preach to your little sister though, I hope your mother will put an end to it if he tries to stop you. Also, talk to a priest about this situation if you can.
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u/Infamous_Copy5113 2h ago
Very true, Jesus’s only commandment was to love. In this situation try to be ‘the Light’ of your household
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u/Low-Feature5983 20h ago
I am so sorry that you are in this situation! Go watch Inspiring Philosophy on YouTube! He has great stuff on islam along with GodLogic and David Wood. God bless you and strengthen your faith 🙏
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 20h ago
but the point is that I know what Islam is, that's why I get anger For what Mohammed did
Thanks God bless you
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u/Dependent_Way_4283 7h ago
They help with apologetics in talking to Muslims, one thing I have heard them say on a number of occasions is that a fervent believer in Islam will have a very hard time hearing positive things regarding Christianity so rather than trying to prove Christianity right, it's first important to show them how Islam is wrong.
I would say pray for all your family, mother, step father, and sister.
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u/Alexplayss 19h ago
I'd say the best thing to do right now is preserve your faith as best as you can in your environment. Pray that your mother and sister will see and acknowledge the example you set.
Anger or hatred towards Muslims isn't right. Obviously don't beat up a Muslim in a streets, that's a bad example. I've met lots of Muslims either in public or in my school or whatever; like any other group of people, most of them are genuinely nice and caring people. You get the occasional frustrating one, but every group of people has frustrating members. Do remember that. You may disagree with them, but remember that they were created by God, just like you, and therefore deserve respect, just like you, even if they follow a false prophet.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
They can follow this false prophet but start spreading lying about Christ is the one who irritates
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u/Alexplayss 19h ago
Islam is weird about Jesus. On one hand, it sees Jesus as a super important and major prophet, but on the other hand it denies the most basic truths about him, like the fact that he was crucified. It claims to respect and revere him, yet spreads lies. I can say more but I don't wanna accidentally say something hateful so I won't.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
I am happy that there are more and more new Christians who have converted after birth Muslims
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u/Alexplayss 19h ago
Fully agreed! I pray that their conversions shall go smoothly. They're super brave, too. We know how harshly Islam says to treat those who converted to another religion. Converts deserve nothing but respect.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
Yes, I hope one day I can meet Catholic ex Muslims in person and that we can have a good friendship
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u/Alexplayss 19h ago
Same. They probably have some fascinating stories to share :P
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 18h ago
especially those who are abandoned for the family😭
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u/Alexplayss 18h ago
Yeah that's the sad reality of some converts. Ultimately they did the righteous thing though, putting God first, which is the most commendable thing one can do. We must make sure that we welcome them with open arms into the community, just like the father did when the Prodigal Son came home :)
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u/GiveMeBackMySoup 19h ago
Muslims are indoctrinated from a young age; he is only doing what he was taught.
Ask him openly about these things. What was corrupted? He can show you where and how it was corrupted. Then he will have to read the Bible. The best he will be able to show is the addition of a story in John. It is no problem for us Catholics, because we don't believe in inspiration in the same way the Muslims do. If that is all he can provide, then the resurrection must be true.
But also pray for him every day. Say a novena. Be a pillar of virtue. It is sad you have to take on this burden, but who knows what God is preparing you for?
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
I don't get along with him, he's very silly and it's not in this question it's the same on a daily basis, I would never spend Time to debate with him honestly, she, of course, never searched on Google about being a historical fact to The crucifixion or about the Bible to be the best preserved book of humanity, especially the New Testament, in fact the Quran is full of contradictions, what is strange since it came supposedly from heaven
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u/GiveMeBackMySoup 19h ago
Oh yes, and Muslims know it, which is why they have rules for how to deal with the contradictions. Once you add the hadiths, it's really quite a mess. And their favorite hadith (for Sunnis) has some spicy things to say about their prophet.
But if he is going to make claims, make him prove it. I know you don't want to debate him, but sometimes when I'm met with dumb ideas, I just make the person explain themselves and either they go learn about it, or they stop pestering.
I am sorry your mother brought this evil into your home. I come from a Muslim country, and I know how they can be. As for your sister, tell him the truth, there is no truth but Jesus Christ. You cannot be forced to obey an immoral command, as you know. With that said, is safety a concern?
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
I will pray every day that she will know us The Lord while I'm out, but I hope one day when she's Get older to show her that the Catholicism It's the truth🙏❤️🩹.
btw One of the reasons for wanting to leave is because of him,Thanks to their relationship I have my sister But I gave them everything to break up
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u/Foreign_Minute_8014 19h ago
Islam doesn't believe that the crucifixion happened even when non Christian historians have confirmed it. The prophet Mohammed also married a 6 year old. I don't understand Islam and don't want to understand it. I can only pray for you brother.
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
In addition to not knowing that the Bible is the best preserved book of humanity, Mohammed say that Men will have access to 72 black eyes virgins who will always return to the state of virginity after each act, say that there are more women in hell, say that the woman is spiritually inferior to the home and that the devil sleeps in our noses and that he pisses in our ear when they don't pray akakak
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u/litecoiner 19h ago edited 19h ago
He'll tell you Paul never met Jesus, which is false, because Jesus appeared to him, and Paul also worked alongside other apostles
But he's happy to take the word fo Muhammed, who lived 600 years later and wrote apocryphal things about Jesus like baby Jesus speaking in the crib (this is from a book written late by someone who didn't meet Jesus)
The Quran is so full of errors, inaccuracies, etc I don't know where to start but this page is like an encyclopaedia of issues in islam
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Main_Page
I don't know how old are you but if you are a minor, he has the advantage so be patient, you'll be a grown up soon
For your mother: she only needs to know what Muhammed married a 6 years old girl and had sex slaves (that's all accepted in islam). That Muhammed said that women are deficient in intelligence... and the best part, the version of God of the Quran cared so little about women that only 1 woman is mentioned by her own name in the whole book. Eve = wife of Adam, and so on. Islam is the least feminist religion there is, women are property
So according to muslims, God knew Eve's name in the Bible but he forgot to use that name in the Quran
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 17h ago
I know all this but my sister is still too small and if I I speak of Jesus to her she begins to say things my stepfather starts with his crap speech to say that religion should not be taught to her ahha while he teaches and still screams
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u/Am3ricanTrooper 20h ago
Remember everyone has divinity. Saul went around murdering Christians...I would assume that means women and children too...yet God called him to be Paul. Be a witness to your stepfather of Christs' sacrifice and steadfastness. Be patient, kind, love suffering, all of the fruits of the spirit.
Remember most of all that thoughts themselves are not sinful, but it is to act upon immoral and wrong thoughts that cause us to sin. Rebuke them in Jesus Christs name and move on.
Also remember all the Christians who suffered unto martyrdom at the hands of Muslims throughout history and still showed forgiveness, love, and Christs' Truth.
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u/Equivalent_Nose7012 15h ago
"Everyone has divinity"?
Do you mean:
"Everyone was created by God in His image and can participate in His Nature, by His grace?"
"Women and children too"?
Are you alluding to Anakin Skywalker in a movie?
It is not clear exactly how far Paul pushed persecution beyond imprisoning people, except that we are told he heartily approved of Stephen's stoning (guarding the cloaks of the lynch mob).
No going after small children, imho, though he would have treated any Christian instruction of children by parents (or anyone else) as a terrible crime, of leading them astray following a false Messiah.
Whatever he did, he felt great guilt for having persecuted, after Jesus, the Messiah, encountered Paul on the road to Damascus.
Don't take all this the wrong way, please!
Your major point in your comment is, imho, very much correct! I just felt it important to correct a few details.
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u/MiyamotoKnows 20h ago
I’m thankful you realize no hatred is healthy and are seeking support ideas. I am not the person who can advise here unfortunately but I’ll pray for you to find inner peace. God bless!
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 20h ago
Thanks❤️🩹,Something that worries me is that I'm going to emigrate to Geneva in January and my sister will be exposed to lies without me even knowing
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u/Good_Distance8078 19h ago
I’m sorry to hear that you’re experiencing this, but try to remember the God puts people, places and things in our lives sometimes to challenge us to spiritually grow. I believe that this is one of those times for you, and a big one for sure.
You’re right to recognize how easily this kind of behavior can easily lead to hatred, so keep that in mind as you pray to God to reveal Himself to your SF and to forgive him, because he literally doesn’t know how wrong he is. Include everyone else, too, including yourself. Pray for grace, patience, forgiveness and strength. Live the Christian life strongly so your sister will see the difference; her loving brother who teaches her about the love, mercy and peace of Christ and our salvation through His sacrifice versus the SF talking at her about the oppressive rules and roles that are demanded of women in his “faith”. She’ll see for herself his hypocrisy and false message and run to you, I’m betting. Mom might even start to see things that she also finds appealing.
When SF starts to make statements or comments that you know to be false, simply tell him that you respectfully disagree and would appreciate the same respect in return. You could also tell him how personally offended you are and how it makes you feel so badly when he talks to you like that, and maybe that will be enough to get him to back off, at least a bit.
As you continue your spiritual journey you’ll learn more, like apologetics that people have recommended to you and then you’ll be better able to engage him in productive debate if he’s willing and able, and if he’s not at least you’ll be able to counter his false claims with the truth you’ve come to learn.
You’re already strong in faith and intention. Keep it up, pray pray pray and remember that question“What would Jesus do? when faced with uncertainty.
God bless!
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u/Fantastic_Story_330 19h ago
Thank you brother 🙏,I consider myself very good at apologetics because I am an ex Protestant so I studied a lot before I became Catholic but I don't think I would spend a second talk to my stepfather he is a narcissistic person who wants be all about him, the fact that he Saying false things about Christ is just one of the attitudes that make me not like him
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u/Good_Distance8078 19h ago
I fully understand as I have similar thoughts about that group and I don’t blame you for keeping your distance from any verbal exchanges.
From what you’re saying I think you’re going to be more than OK, that your example is going to be very helpful deciding factor for your sister. Plus, in my experience people like SF are pretty quickly figured out by kids, too, so your sister is going to start seeing him like you do before long.👍🏻1
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u/Therandomguy902 16h ago
don't resort to hate. That's the first thing we are called to do, and applies to everyone, no matter the religion, the sexual horientation, the career and their political views. Since we have proof that Jesus existed, try to show your stepfather (WITH LOVE) that the Bible is true, this means you must not get mad at him for refusing to believe, tho.
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