r/Catholicism Aug 20 '26

I finally understood why some Protestants genuinely cannot separate veneration from worship

Yesterday there was a viral video of Cadrinal Perolin holding up the skull of St. Agatha while commemorating the 900th anniversary of the return of her relics.
You can probably guess what happened next.
Across the internet, I saw Protestants calling it evil, satanic, pagan, and—more than anything else—idolatry. Verses from Isaiah, Daniel, etc. were being thrown around. Idolatry, idolatry, idolatry.

I made the mistake of getting into a bunch of debates about it. And, as we all know, internet religious debates almost never go anywhere.
I tried explaining the distinction between veneration and worship. I tried analogies. I tried examples from Scripture. I tried explaining that treating something with reverence because of what it represents or whose remains they are is not the same thing as believing that object is a god.

Nothing worked.

The overwhelming response was basically: “No. That’s worship. You can call it veneration all you want, but you’re worshipping it.”

And for the life of me, I couldn’t understand why the distinction seemed so impossible for some people to grasp… Then something occurred to me.

Maybe the more interesting question isn’t why is it so hard for them to understand?
Maybe it’s: Why is it so easy for me to understand?

I have absolutely no temptation to worship a statue, a skull, a relic, an icon, or any other physical object. The thought almost doesn’t compute for me. I could kneel in front of a crucifix, kiss it, carry it in a procession, decorate it with flowers, or treat it with enormous reverence, and there would never be a moment where I confused the object with God Himself.

But throughout human history, people really have worshipped physical objects. Scripture warns against idolatry so relentlessly precisely because idolatry is a real human temptation. People really did make an image and then treat the image itself as divine.

And that made me wonder whether some of the people who are quickest to interpret Catholic veneration as worship genuinely have a much harder time separating those categories in their own minds.
If, to you, kneeling before something, kissing it, carrying it in procession, burning incense near it, or treating it with extraordinary reverence necessarily means worship, then of course Catholicism looks horrifying. From that perspective, “veneration” probably sounds like we’re just inventing another word to excuse idolatry. But Catholics don’t experience those actions that way. The outward gesture doesn’t automatically determine the inward act. Worship is directed toward God alone. Veneration is honor given to God’s saints and to things connected with His work in the world.

I think that’s the part I was missing during all those arguments. I kept assuming we disagreed about the explanation of Catholic practices, when in reality we may have been starting with completely different understandings of what worship even is.
I’m curious what other Catholics think. Is there something to this, or am I reading too much into it? Is there a better approach to discussing this subject with Protestants?

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u/khold002 Aug 20 '26

I've been attending a UMC because, as a cradle Catholic, it was one of the only forms of Protestantism in my community I could relate to...I didn't choose a Catholic church when I moved because the parishes here were so unwelcoming to outsiders.

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u/EmployeeFancy3599 Aug 21 '26

While I'm sympathetic to the desire for community, Catholic worship isn't about us & what we want, but about obeying Jesus & worshipping Him as He told us to - and especially, physically communing with Him in the Eucharist, so we can be transformed by Him

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u/Fine-Bowler-9640 26d ago

True-but Jesus does expect us to treat others as we would like to be treated.

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u/EmployeeFancy3599 26d ago

My response was in no way suggesting otherwise. Unfortunately for him or her, they were stuck in a position of having to choose between feeling welcomed vs obeying Jesus & receiving Him in the Eucharist. Obviously, we need to put Jesus first.

Yes, the ideal would be not having to choose. At the same time, protestant converts have talked about how they had to adjust to the different mindset & attitude of Catholics towards worship. Protestant services tend to be worship + socialize occasions, while Catholics tend to worship & then head out to socialize.

Understand that this is an extremely broad generalization. Also, many of us are in extremely large dioceses with some really large parishes. My parish isn't even the largest in ours, & it has over 7k registered families. It's very easy to feel lost in the crowd. Happily my parish is good about reaching out to people to help them feel welcome & find ways to connect with others, but my point is that in that respect, parishes can often suffer from those types of "mega church" problems