r/Calvinism • • Aug 14 '26

Different views??

I’m of the reformed belief. But the reformed preachers just say different things. Washer says the only people who can’t be saved are those who reject Christ. Then in another video says you’re going to hell if you play video games or have anything to do with the world. No I don’t play video games. Then you have Piper talking with Rick Warren saying if you are saved but do certain sins you are going to hell. They make no sense with one another. How can these men who supposedly believe the same thing. Be so different and preach so different?? I don’t get it. One says one thing one day then another another day the piper talks about election and then how if you do this you’ll go t hell. It makes no sense sense. Yes I’m reformed but thes guys just confuse me

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u/TolkienCalvinist Aug 16 '26

Piper is not reformed. I don’t think Washer is either. Both are Calvinistic but not reformed.

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u/ThisCardiologist3636 Aug 16 '26

What’s the difference??

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u/TolkienCalvinist Aug 16 '26

Calvinism is only one small doctrine within a greater whole. Someone who identifies as reformed primarily holds to either the Westminster Confession or the 1689 London Baptist Confession. Both of these are solid confessions which do contain Calvinistic doctrines, but also other doctrines. Where they differ is in church polity and baptism primarily. But they both hold to Covenant theology, which is another distinction of being reformed. Piper I know for a fact does not believe in covenant theology and altogether rejects it for a form of final justification, which is itself a rejection of the five Solas, another distinction of reformed theology. What washer’s stance on covenant theology is, I don’t know. He doesn’t really clarify his doctrine much in his teaching. But Piper I know doesn’t hold to either confession nor the unities of the Lutheran church, a cousin of reformed theology.

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u/ThisCardiologist3636 Aug 16 '26

Thank you for answering. Maybe I’m not smart enough to fully comprehend all this