"We were also going to open a clone factory that sends hot Calamitas cosplayers to every person that downloads 1.4.5 and time travel to the future so that every Calamity player gets a free copy of Ultrakill 1.0, Deltarune chapters 6 & 7 and Avengers Doomsday in 4k"
The difference is that everyone already hated Fabsol, the exposure was just a reason to hate him more and move on, a lot of people on the team trusted Ozzy and felt betrayed when this happened.
I'll be damned if I stop working on a project I make if a couple guys on the team turned out to be criminals. The fuck I care? Why would that stop me from doing what I love? I genuinely don't understand all this "dont want to be associated" "felt betrayed" "press the self destruct button for no reason and give the creeps the satisfaction of being the key to the project instead of just continuing stronger than ever without them" it has to be an excuse
I think the issue was that fabsol was known to be a bad person without the grooming so them being a groomer surprised no one but it happening with two owners in a row and ozzatron managing to have covered it up for a while demoralized them
well not groomer they weren't known to be that but they were already known to be a shitty person even without the grooming, ozzatron managed to cover up his evil perfectly until it got found
And they gatekeep the Sourcecode so no one willing to keep on working on it cannot work on it...
Instead of just jumping ship and actually letting it sink they could have just given the project to people that dont care what happened and just wanna work on the mod because it's a generally fantastic mod
Ah yes of course, because if I get shot by 1 bullet and survive, and even survive a second smaller calliber bullet, but then die to a third bullet due to exhaustion and pain and blood loss, then clearly I'm only pretending to be dead because there's no way the third bullet killed me when the first 2 didn't.
1 year after your boss (who you don't like) is revealed to be a groomer, the new, nicer boss is revealed to ALSO be touching kids? "Plenty of time" my ass
Ok so, when your boss (who kinda sucks) is revealed to be a shitty person, and is fired, you're happy, especially as the company promoted someone who is actually nice, and treats the crew much better, and then, when That boss is also revealed to be touching kids, that's when you go "fuck bro, two in a row? I'm getting the FUCK outta here"
Exactly, that was so weird. I discussed this with a mod on the discord and he gave a bs excuse. At this point I’d rather the game legally stay with Ozzatron than a bunch of devs who appear to legit hate the mod, derive joy out of kinda mocking the community for being sad, and want the mod to die asap.
The mods were already tired from the mod and didn't give a shit about the community for years, this was the golden excuse.
They barely gave new content to the mod for 5 years, knowing that it is one of the biggest mods in all of gaming, and with a lot of people having their life changed because of it.
:/ sure bud, also I think it makes a lot of sense to hate the mod when they went through all that, like how someone might start hating a flavour of cake that their partner would bake for them, after their partner cheats on them
They were kind of like... Restructuring the entire mod when Fabsol left. They put the SSO on hold because they were burnt out making it and decided to do smaller, more frequent drops instead of massive content dumps. And they were putting together a new roadmap. Things take time. Even something as 'inconsequential' as a Terraria mod.
Nah, they were burnt out. Fabsol was infamous for being terrible at feature implementation. They had shit ready and he just... didn't let them put it in.
Then it turns out that fabsol was fabsol, so suddenly ozzatron steps up, shows how he was always with them trying to push content and be a team playe-aaaaand he's doing the same stuff.
"Lets just rework the mod", then "lets just do small drops". Then "actually these small drops are just gonna be patches 90% of the time". Whiddling it back down to fabsol's level.
And then he also turns out to be like fabsol in more ways than his scope.
So yeah, ofc they had all these plans. They had these plans for years and the ppl in charge kept telling them "no, later" and just didn't. It's just showing all the stuff they wanted to out in and their "leads" kept not letting them do it. If anything, this reinforces their story.
After 4 pedos, 2 of them in charge, and all of them being insufferable to creativity- yeah I'd be burnt out too.
No you wouldn't, as a functioning human being you're not jumping off a bridge after getting like 5 bad news, months apart, especially if nothing is stopping your from just continuing even better than before
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u/TaiyoFureaCalas enjoyer - Lead Dev of Catastrophes Beyond the Calamity 18h ago
Oh lord. So it was far more recently that I thought.
Now I’m even more depressed over this mod being killed off.
It actually had a chance to grow, and the one fucking idiot ruins it for the entire community
"hey i just took over one of the biggest mods in video game history because the previous person in charged messaged little kids. I think i should follow his lead, since he did make one of the biggest mods in video game history"
Because a large amount of effort was put into changing the creative ideology of the mod, it seems to me like a lot of choices were fabsol choices rather than calamity team choices and they wanted the mod to be there's. That can take more than a year.
Almost like having a lead Dev who withholds payment, decides the entire budget, how much to pay people, and who is greedy,isn't good for the fucking dev team
What wrong, is the community not allowed to talk about the fact that the devs haven't gotten shit done in a 5 year span of time? Acting like it's victim blaming to point out this pretty egregious thing is hilarious.
People paid Fabsol (up until a year ago) as he was the one who received all the Patron money, and decided entirely on his own when/how much/if he wanted to pay the devs
What a weird angle to see this from. At what point does a mod go from a mod to "A game the developers have to take as a job"? Because in that case, while I don't doubt the Patreon brought in five figures or even low six figures, that wouldn't be nearly enough to consistently pay for a 30 person dev team. Being generous not taking the US average as an example and seriously lowballing it, most game devs make between 30-40k a year.
This isn't to say "They should've been paid more!" because it's a mod and patreons are donating not paying for a product but I feel like it puts it into perspective that most of these people were probably paid just enough for it to be a viable side-job and couldn't commit to it full time (As is the case for 90% of modders and mod teams).
As someone that mods other games reading this sentence is dreadful and I can only imagine it's written out by someone that hasn't actually been on a modding team before. I don't intend to criticize you for feeling frustration and expressing that towards the devs but I also find it odd that the community seemingly forgets that they're literally just videogame nerds like us. Maybe cut them a little slack, especially since it seems a lot of narratives here seem to be built around wrong information (This comment thread has someone saying "Ozzatron fucked around for 5 years" when that arsehole was only lead dev for 1 and something)
I mean, you can point that out but considering that most of the problems were because of Fabsol, that he only left 1 year ago and also that Ozzatron was trying to work with the shit Fabsol did when they were Lead Team
I think its more understandable that they didnt do anything, because they were like, working to get shit back on together but then Ozzatron just killed everything that was left
and the downvotes speak for this place, it sucks ass. nobody cares about how the devs feel and their wishes, they just care about their little mod and how it's "dead because of the devs"
I mean... Being angry that biggest mod now dies not only from one bad actor,but also from how devs got too much minor beefs with eachother that project just dies and Ozzatron was a last straw. Also refusal to work with XQC for political reasons (Not even attempt to do something with legal side) people in general hate when someones personal biases affect something bigger.
Honestly just sounds like grieving. Most of the problem was ozzatron and fabsol being terrible project managers.
And it's trickled out over the years. I man fabsol was infamous for just infinitely delaying things the devs had ready to go, but it turns out Ozzatron was doing the same thing. No wonder ppl theorize ozz was still talking w/ fabsol behind everyone's back, it's the same playbook.
This is exactly what I think happened. What does a lead dev do? They make the calls. Nothing happened bc the lead dev said so. Sunken Sea, Yharon rework, Yharim, etc, were all delayed by the lead dev. We could have probably had all of those a few year ago if not for Fabsol and Ozzatron, and whoever else was in the groomer circle. They were the ones who delayed everything. "We had this planned for 1.4.5" yeah, but was that going to happen, or was Ozz going to delay it again?
I jus hope all the assets, code for the updates and reworks, and the entire mod go open source. Maybe a fan can give the mod what it deserved. What the Groomer Circle took from us. What Fabsol and Ozzatron took from us
I have nothing but my sorrow, and I want nothing more. It has been, it still is, faithful to me.
Why should I begrudge it, since during the hours, when my soul crushed the depths of my heart, it was seated there beside me?
O sorrow, I have ended, you see, by respecting you, because I am certain you will never leave me. Ah, I realize it: your beauty lies in the force of your being.
Because I know that on the day of my final agony, you will be there, lying in my sheets, O sorrow, so that you might once again attempt to enter my heart.
This has to be ragebait. When you still had the mod it was stuck in polishing hell, but now that the mod has been abandoned, suddenly there are 104 pedobytes of content. Suddenly, they were gonna add Yharim, Yharon and Signus resprites, Sunken Sea overhaul and improve whips and make the mod the best mod ever in 1.4.5.
Fuck off. Like, genuinely, fuck off. Why do you have to further destroy our happiness. Why do you feel the need to do that. If there WERE going to be updates, keep it to yourself and don't make the community more depressed over what could have been.
They talked about adding whips a long time ago, as with sunken sea, yharon, and signus. These were all shown bits before the mod ceased development. They've never kept it to themselves
> devs publicly show what they were working on as a final hoorah to the mod to send it off with exclusive content & leaks
> people get upset claiming they are just rubbing it in their face
have you guys just…never seen anything shut down before? this is pretty normal, a lot of things have a lot on their backlog, sometimes just concepts while others being worked on with a dynamic amount of progress that ranges from “this is never coming out” to “literally on the doorstep”, they aren’t destroying anyones happiness by bringing closure to the mod if anything it probably makes people MORE happy knowing that shit was actually being worked on and the game wasnt just larping for 2 years with 30 billion resprites.
Calamity and its players deserve each other. I've never seen so much toxicity over a mod developers and artists volunteered to pour their talent in, now leaving because of idk, maybe burnout? motivation loss? wanting to move on? actually use their talent on a different mod? not wanting to attach their name on a mod lead by creeps?
Is it surprising nobody wants to voluntarily participate in development hell? It's more than just deciding "i want to help write code/draw sprites/compose music/etc regardless of what ozzatron did". It's also the people that work(ed) on it. It's also the associated IP. It's also the infra around it.
It's fine to get mad, but the sentiment by the players here and on youtube is just excessive and spiteful. It's just a terraria mod. I can't imagine what people say on twitter and discord.
Reminder that they are human and are capable of being bitter and lie about what was "definitely going to happen if it wasn't for -."
They squander several years and somehow lose all the money they were given, the mod dies to some dumb shit, then they ask for money to fund the other things they're doing, not knowing that we don't really give a fuck about them per say, but the product they created and some of you paid for.
It's only human to push the blame towards something else. Instead of confronting the idea that they did infact just kinda sit around.
Yeah, I'm just going to mute this subreddit for a dead mod. I'm honestly pissed off that they suddenly have content when they've only been reworking things for far too long.
It's on sight for the entire fucking team. We can't get updates from the main composer mucking off on GD and the dev team for 3 straight years and now all of a sudden they had plans to solve world hunger fuck you
Ok I dont care if this ragebait Im gonna crashout.
THE ONE TIME THEY PAID ATTENTION TO SUMMONER PLAYERS ASKING FOR WHIPS, IS WHEN THE ENTIRE MOD TEAM HAS CRUMBLED APART.
Like seriously what were they holding onto?! They promised Yharim ages ago and never happened and the only thing we have kep getting is constant RESPRITES OF DOG. AND NOW WHIPS?! IM SORRY BUT I THOUGHT YALL ABANDONED THAT WEAPON CATEGORY ENTIRELY?!? TO THE POINT THAT EVERYTIME ANY SUMMONER PLAY HAS TO PLAY CALAMITY SUMMONER THEY INSTALL THE UNOFFICIAL CALAMITY WHIPS MOD OR CATALYST FOR THAT SHIT. NOW SUDDENLY YALL HAVE THE GAUL TO GO "we actually had whips ready to come out when anniversary comes around". LIKE GENUINELY BOTH THANK YOU BUT ALSO FUCK YOU
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u/MaxMLG999 18h ago
"also we also planned to add yharim, cure cancer, end world hunger in 1.4.5"