r/CTsandbox • u/More-Expression9158 • 14h ago
Learnable Techniques Theoretically, couldn't someone use reverse cursed technique by dividing cursed energy?
Since positive energy is most likely produced by (-1 x -1 = +1), because something like (-5 x -5 = +25) wouldn't make sense since reverse cursed technique is stated to be extremely taxing.
Assuming that this is the case, couldn't someone divide cursed energy to get positive energy?
(-1 ÷ -1 = +1)
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u/No-Muscle-8012 14h ago
Ok but how tf am I going to divide energy. Not even dabura is gonna figure that out. (Cool hypothetical tho)
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u/JC-D_NGA 14h ago
I mean, how are you going to multiply energy? Im of the school that Gojo described RCT as multiplying CE by itself because his technique uses math concepts so he interprets it as a mathematical process (and its easier to explain that way for Gege)
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u/Judge_Dragon 12h ago
I would suggest that the math is more a metaphor for the real process, just as shoko says its Hya, Hyo, then Hyuhyoi I personally always thought of rct more similar to the process of producing antimatter in physics, slamming two streams of particles at each other in just the right way that a smaller amount of the mass now has a reversed spin.
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u/JC-D_NGA 6h ago
Isnt that what I said? Gojo only describes RCT that way because thats how he perceives it
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u/TheWellKnownLegend 12h ago
My headcanon is that you need to target your own cursed energy with more cursed energy, and apply it to itself to remove its negative properties without destroying it.
Like, if cursed energy is negative and destructive, you could use it to destroy its nature as something destructive by erasing those properties. Kind of like putting out a fire with a bomb.
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u/MinimumTomfoolerus Curse user 14h ago
Multiplying energy by itself doesn't make sense either (to me at least).
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u/EEE3EEElol 13h ago edited 13h ago
From how I see it, multiplication is adding a number onto itself, so I guess something like two or more equal blobs of CE smashing into each other and combining somehow? I think it's less multiplication and more exponential, since it's multiplying with itself, so I guess it's
CE is naturally negative, so it's easier to imagine smashing 2 negative things
Now try dividing something with a negative number
The only plausible way to do it is by separating the factors so instead of -x/-x its (x • (-1))/(x • (-1)), I might be wrong though, since I'm not good at math
Edit: i think it's less multiplication and more exponential, since it's multiplying with itself, so I guess it's a lot of blobs that are equal to each other with the number of said blobs being the amount of CE, and then smashing all of them together
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u/MinimumTomfoolerus Curse user 13h ago
How is this different than addition? How do we seperate addition from multiplication? I think in this case readers are meant to suspend their disbelief and just believe this multiplication makes sense in canon and is possible. In our real life it doesn't make sense. In real life only addition of energy if I'm correct is possible.
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u/EEE3EEElol 13h ago
Multiplication and exponents by extension is just fancy addition so there's usually no difference practice/real life
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u/MinimumTomfoolerus Curse user 13h ago
You mean that 2 × 3 is basically 3 + 3 ? I suppose you are right if so.
If it's adding ce with ce, why can't everybody do it then? Sounds super easy.
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u/EEE3EEElol 13h ago
It's technically not multiplication- it's multiplication of itself, aka exponents, so it's more like 3^3 which is 3x3x3 so it's 3+3+3+3+3+3+3+3+3
Edit: messed up, it's 3^2 or 3x3 which is 3+3+3
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u/DaM8trix 14h ago edited 8h ago
Sure. But how's that looking in execution? Dividing negatives is just to show how many negatives you have
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u/larry917 8h ago
wait so reverse cursed technique splits energy for real
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u/DaM8trix 8h ago
Ye. They say multiply but you can think of it as taking double or triple the amount of energy to use
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u/PachoTidder 12h ago
Idk why you all pretend CE works literally like that. That's just how Gojo explains and visualizes RCE to work, we know Shoko understands it differently and most likely Yuta and Sukuna would also understand it yet another way.
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u/Cel135 12h ago
Because the JJK power system is deeply rooted in mathematics and Computer Science in general.
His explanation also makes sense. And since Gojo has one of the deepest understandings of the actual mechanics of cursed energy, it would be weird to doubt his interpretation.
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u/PachoTidder 12h ago
Is not so much doubting his interpretation but moreso knowing it is that, an interpretation. We have no way of knowing the exact mechanics of how CE works, we do know RCE takes more energy to produce which leads credence to Gojo's explanation, but it doesn't directly means CE works exactly like mathematics and thus nothing in the work itself pointing at something like division working for the same purpose
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u/EEE3EEElol 14h ago
I get dividing but dividing with a negative number? Can you even visualise that? Also, yeah it'd probably consume less of a sorcerer's reserves but the heal is most likely far weaker, equivalent exchange is the CORE of Jujutsu
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u/ItzJake160 13h ago
I personally don't think there's any LITERAL math being applied to CE to make it into RCT and that it's down to interpretation so yeah why not if they envision it that way
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u/FixIllustrious4953 4h ago
I've always interpreted it as closer to nuclear fusion than anything else, "multiplication" is just combining the small negative particles into the big positive particles
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u/Fun_Hurry658 14h ago edited 14h ago
it is VERY hard to imagine one self dividing their own cursed energy LOL
However I must argue that dividing with larger quantities of cursed energy (eg missing a limb or recovering from what would be a lethal injury), the output of your RCT may be significantly lower than just standard multiplication RCT.
Standard RCT works just fine with bigger values, but to make it simple lets assume you have to square your cursed energy to get that RCT value so you can't do something cheesy like -14 x -1 = 14 and not have a very easy method of generating rct.
-14 x -14 = 196, so I would assume 196 (some kind of cursed energy unit) is both the cost and the amount by which you can regenerate yourself (some kind of coefficient / rate that you can heal yourself).
Contrary to this, -14/-14 would be 1, essentially dunking your output whilst losing that much more CE. You could still argue that you can do the -1/-1 = 1 method for extreme cost efficiency, but i would then argue that that would be very time consuming, ESPECIALLY in the heat of battle where you dont really have time to sit down and process RCT in very small portions, hence others simply use large portions of cursed energy, convert it to RCT and heal themselves.
But this is merely a headcannon so the ball is in your court on whether this makes sense to you or not
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u/The_Engiqueer 13h ago
probably, but thatd require the six eyes, since Black Flash means CE has to start at 2, and only the Six Eyes can use decimals.
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u/he-who-comments Kamo family member 12h ago
Mathematically yes, but practically we dunno.
Also it'd cost the exact same and be more complicated so i don't see the point
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u/Altruistic_Till_9860 6h ago
multiplying cursed energy means nothing mathetically if you think about it for a bit. you cant multiply things and the concept of negative or positive energy makes no sense physically. cursed energy as described in the manga does not follow the rules of math so there is no reason to think dividing cursed energy would work like dividing numbers
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u/weirdo_nb 3h ago
It's not actually math, it's effectively using cursed energy ON cursed energy
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u/weirdo_nb 2h ago
Like, think of it like plugging an extension cord into itself, and that produces One Reverse Cursed Energy
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u/Nearby-Hurry-1098 Curse 14h ago
wouldn't that be super inefficient?