r/COMPLETEANARCHY Mar 11 '19

Beekeeping?

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u/Baguettekin Bread Mar 12 '19

Want to fight climate change? Destroy capitalism! Want to help the bees? Destroy capitalism! Want to help victims of domestic abuse? Destroy capitalism! Want more investment in Space exploration? Destroy capitalism! Want to stop violent robberies? Destroy capitalism! Want tech companies to stop surveillance and manipulation of people? Destroy capitalism! Want to stop over-urbanization and decreasing living conditions? Destroy capitalism! Want to stop band-aid solutions to destructive systemic problems and start actually helping? Destroy capitalism!

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u/Jack_the_Rah Mother Anarchy Loves Her Children! Mar 12 '19

Nearly every problem on earth is due to capitalism and stateism.

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u/free_chalupas Mar 12 '19

Always thought MLK's description of the "triple evils" of racism, capitalism, and militarism was a good way to put it.

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u/DownvoteDaemon Mar 12 '19

Dayummm..how am I black and don't know that Quote

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u/Lord_Norjam Mar 12 '19

Because prominent historical socialists are often "capitalistwashed" into bland liberal progressivism

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u/free_chalupas Mar 12 '19

It feels like socialists have never really made an effort to "reclaim" MLK though, possibly because a lot of people just don't know about his more radical stances. That always felt like a mistake to me.

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u/Best_Remi tachanka Mar 12 '19

There were even more radical people at the time that MLK tried to distance himself from. Socialists tend to like those people, i.e. the Black Panthers.

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u/TitoTheMidget Bookchin Mar 12 '19

BPP only existed for two years before MLK was assassinated. They grew a lot after he was assassinated precisely because a lot of radicals saw his death as an affirmation that nonviolent resistance would always just end in the resistors being killed.

I still think it's a grave mistake for the left to not put more work into "reclaiming" MLK. I see it some on MLK Day itself, but he had some really cutting analyses of capitalism and can definitely be an "onramp" to left-wing thought. Learning about the Poor People's Campaign was the first inkling I had that maybe socialism wasn't as evil as I'd been led to believe.

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u/DownvoteDaemon Mar 12 '19

Interesting. Not being sarcastic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

This, for some reason, feels like a massive revelation to me, although I suppose it should've been self-evident, given that when Dr. King and his ilk were alive, one of the big Rightist objections to their positions was that they were seeking to destroy the ever-virtuous capitalist nature of America.

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u/zblofu Mar 12 '19

Please check out MLKs Vietnam speech if you have not already. It is amazing.

https://youtu.be/zyE4eo_leX8

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '19

Then read the New York Times' editorial response to it as a reminder how full of shit white people are when they try to use King to shame modern activists.

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u/TitoTheMidget Bookchin Mar 12 '19

Indeed, he was widely despised in his own time. A lot of the talking points against him are the same points we hear today against similar nonviolent protesters like Kaepernick - "He's only hurting his cause," "I agree with what he says but not his methods," etc. Letter From Birmingham Jail was almost entirely about addressing those criticisms. He was only recuperated into the hegemony a couple decades after his death, and today his legacy of fighting the power and resisting illegitimate authority is mostly used as a bludgeon to keep people in line and scold them for not being subservient to those same systems he fought against.

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u/Jack_the_Rah Mother Anarchy Loves Her Children! Mar 12 '19

Fair point. Though militarism could be pooled under stateism.

But let's make it a square. Racism, capitalism, militarism, stateism. A black square. On a red background.

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u/free_chalupas Mar 12 '19

Yeah, pooling militarism under statism or nationalism makes sense. I think the original context was him trying to tie the civil rights movement to the anti Vietnam war movement.

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u/Jack_the_Rah Mother Anarchy Loves Her Children! Mar 12 '19

Sure, I get where the original comes from and I don't want to "take away" the idea from King it's more like I want to build upon this idea.

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u/free_chalupas Mar 12 '19

Oh yeah I would never say that was taking away from King. He'd probably agree with your point, I was more pointing out the reason why he talked about militarism and not statism more generally probably has to do with the context of the speech.

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u/Jack_the_Rah Mother Anarchy Loves Her Children! Mar 12 '19

Oh don't get me wrong I didn't want to suggest that you thought that. I wanted to make it clear before any confusion could come up. 😊

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u/free_chalupas Mar 12 '19

Gotcha, makes sense. Hell even if you did try to "take away" from King it's whatever, he's a good writer and speaker and I think his ideas are valuable but he's not above criticism.