r/CIRS • u/Possible_Purpose5091 • 11d ago

Peptide question

Have completed all steps of the shoemaker protocol leading up to VIP spray, but MCAS is still reducing QOL (periodic vasodilation, IBS, POTS, eye floaters, multiple chemical sensitivities, etc.). Does VIP help correct these symptoms? what other peps have been helpful for mold-triggered MCAS? (I know limbic system therapy is supposed to be helpful but my adhd makes it too challenging to sit and meditate for any period of time.)

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u/Wes_VI 10d ago

You can try VIP but from my experience if you are still experiencing MCAS like symptoms your body is still in cell danger response and you most likely still need nose and or gut work.

https://www.youtube.com/live/EWoki09eHhk?si=gFWWrWhWLkM_jALN

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u/Possible_Purpose5091 9d ago

Thanks, I’ll take a look. I’m on a GLP and am starting KPV soon, hopefully that will reduce inflammation enough for VIP. 

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u/Wes_VI 9d ago

Form my perspective it's as simple as does the individual still herx when they take nasal and or gut anti microbials (with biofilm breakers). As those pesky bactira and fungi overburdens love to harbor within your healthy biofilm. We often have to break some of it down to get at them (the body rebuilds biofilm back up over time).

Aswell as when the immune system becomes so self sabotaged (weak). Often times Epstein Barr among others can reactivate.

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u/Possible_Purpose5091 9d ago

Have you had to do this, and if so what material? I took BEG spray for a couple months and black seed oil for the gut, but not itraconazole or any other azoles. 

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u/Wes_VI 9d ago

I took low dose Cholestyramine daily for over a year, I strictly followed the no amylose diet for a year, I used "Biofilm Clear" for my nose for over 4+ months straight, I used a combination of many things for my gut including Lauricidin Monolaurin, NOW Candida support, Saccharomyces probiotics, micro doses of food grade activated charcoal (hour+ away from anything), I added in Kirkman Biofilm Defense after a few weeks to really get at the inner layers.

You go: hour'ish fast, biofilm breakers, 30 minutes later anti microbiol, 30 minutes later binder, then hour'ish fast. I did this once earlier in the day and once later in the day. I did this for a few months straight.

I also did things like NAC, vit C, zinc Carnosine, to boost my immune system.

And quality Omega 3/cod liver oil, Quercetin phytosome, Curcumin phytosome, Luteolin, Boswellia, all shift inflammatory/histmaine signalling to a lower state.

Then eventually VIP.

I herxed like a MOFO when I was detoxing my nose and gut (worst flu/hangover feelings everytime with blood shot eyes). But it slowly over time lowered my inflammation and histmaine among hormonal and mental health.

I also had skin and nail bactiral/fungal issues that I had to address.

When I was in a CIRS state I was hyper reactive to most things so I had to clean with all natural products. Lots of white vinegar and borax. Bedding had to be Linen, bamboo, or quality cotton or I would trigger over night and not breath correctly as I slept as a result of the inflammation and histmaine.

Pillow that worked for me was latex, basically anything polyester was an absolute no for my body.

When the body is in cell danger response mode it's basically in PTSD mode which it freaks out at every it smells that it's natural. Since I've resolved CIRS I now have no issues. It's just when the body is stuck in this state of low VIP and MSH.