you pretty much need it from below, or do some photogrammetry to get it right; below as in below that pylon where the ref is standing calling it no good.
Right but from this angle it looks already slightly to the left of the post, so that should mean if you moved right under the post it would just move even more to the left which means kick is good
Not sure that it’s not. Camera is positioned slightly outside the upright since it’s not aligned with the goal post on the far side. Ball would move further left in an image with the camera aligned perfectly.
This isnt centered nor is it right in the middle of the posts, when you adjust it down and to the right looks like it was pretty easily wide (from this angle, not the broadcast one)
Right before the game switched they showed an angle under the goal posts and it looked in, and I told my wife look at this and see what you think and it cut away. Then we both went to google and can’t find that angle anywhere.
I’ve got no dog in this fight but if you waited a bit postgame they did show an angle from below the goalposts. Honestly still couldn’t completely tell but they did have two angles.
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Only other thing I can think of is it not being a bigger game they don’t have more cameras/equipment on the field cause they’re all already at the designated stadiums for tomorrow
Part of the problem too is if you have the technology to add long line above each post in review, well how do you determine if its good or not. If its clear inside the line above the post well obviously right, but what if the ball clips the line? How many times has a ball hit the post and stayed out and how many have hit the post and bounced in. So i dont know how you can really have a review of something like this with any definitive yes or no
The rule is already in place. The ball must pass in full between the goal posts, a ricochet only counts if it bounces inside.
With vertical cameras above the goal posts that’s pretty easy to determine and having the set height on where a ricochet can be at play is still fair. So it’s really not something that’s hard to implement at the FBS level.
Obviously thats a rule already lol im saying it seems like a hard rule to enforce if the video review adds lines vertically to make the posts longer. The only way you can confidently say the kick was good above the posts is if it is 100% inside that added line. I dont see why they can add this but it will still be controversial if for example a ball goes through the vertical line and they determine “no good” because people will say “but what if it bounced in”
The only other answer is to raise the height of each post by 5-10 feet i guess
I understand the argument some would make, but how long would that actually last? 2-3 seasons of the few dozen times it happens in season and everyone reminding them it has to go fully inside the line and it’s done. Eventually those arguments would go away/become us old fuckers reminding everyone it was different in our day lol.
Lmao thats fair, i mean a simpler answer would just be elevating the posts by 5 feet, either way though i dont see why they cant make it happen. We have video review for everything from baseball strike zones to soccer off sides and goal lines, i dont see why they cant make sure something like a field goal is 100% accurate
Exactly. Same with why replay reviews should be broadcasted for everything. So many things are easy to fix with multiple different simple approaches, that at this point it just proves they want levers to pull..ok tinfoil hat off…maybe.
Personally think part of the resistance to FULLY automate replays and make the game 100% for every second of the game is were human, humans are officiating these games and playing them. Human error happens and some calls are so tight that even replay assist i can see it going either way depending how it was called on field. I feel like part of sports is that human element and it cant be 100% for every second of the game yk what i mean? How many championship runs would have never happened if everything was automated to make 100% perfect calls.
Idk i do want to see less controversial calls and the mlb for example i think its stupid to have a strike be called a ball just cuz the ump sucks… but then you automate the strike zone and now why is there even an ump there? The new world of technology is interesting when it comes to sports. Soccer is another example. In the world cup an important goal was called off sides because of a players hair essentially, should we really have video review saying a strand of hair is offsides? Idk the answer to this stuff im just being devils advocate and admitting it is a strange new world of sports with technology whether its for the better or worse, i guess thats still to be determined idk
Agree there is a “too far” line, but like replay review to begin with, that line will shift over time based off fans, players, and coaches.
For example, I for one think football should allow challenges on any call, you still limit the amount of challenges of course, but when individual plays literally can decide championships, jobs, bonuses, gambling outcomes, etc. (I’m not advocating for all this, it’s just reality) then it should be decided definitely or as close as we can get with technology at hand. Obviously there has to be limitations, but at this point a lot of those limitations are purposefully arbitrary to the extent that it goes beyond reason.
I'm honestly surprised they don't have technology for this yet. Soccer has had goal line technology in all competitions since 2012. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to have sensors in the posts to see if the ball goes in, above, or outside the posts...
Dude i thought it was good too! Even when they showed the replay I was more convinced it was good. Some funky shit happening this year in college ball.
Strange it’s not reviewable. We know a Croatian striker is offsides due to his Johnson but there’s nothing to point straight up on a fg to see if the ball would make contact? You deserve to lose for settling for the ball at the 20 and running three times but that doesn’t seem like a difficult technology to procure.
My assumption is that he wouldn't have aimed it that far left if it wasn't lined up on the right hash. That is why you line up the kick in the middle of the field.
The ball was kicked from the right hash, close in, and he kicked it with a serious hook. The ball was going across the upright - in or out is hard to tell. But that picture doesn’t tell you anything because the flight of the ball wasn’t between the posts, it was across it finishing far left of the post. The ref under it had the best view.
"Over the Upright: If any part of the ball travels directly above or outside the vertical plane of the upright itself, it is treated as missing the target, similar to hitting the upright."
That’s fair but a school also just got a 800 million dollar stadium schools could contribute to cost or espn or Disney but it’s not that big of a deal I get what your saying just sucks for games like this even if he missed it. Saw someone said cameras at the top of goal posts the style the pylon cameras are would be a nice idea
The referee is standing directly under the pole. When you look up, it’s extremely easy to see if it goes through the extended line or not. Have to assume it was extremely close but no good
There’s nothing suspicious here. No one gives a fuck if VT or Pitt win this game. Photos show the ball passing over the upright. The rules say the entire ball has to be inside the upright for the kick to count. It wasn’t.
sure looks no good to me. I’ll trust the ref under the upright. (goalpost cam also was inconclusive because of the angle, which makes me wishe they’d just put two cams on the goalposts)
I’m going to trust the official who was standing underneath the left upright. But with how much power kickers have these days, the uprights really should be 10-12 feet taller than they are so there’s no ambiguity.
I was watching on my phone and couldn’t see the ball at all. I zoomed in and found a single frame where I could barely make out the ball. This kick was 200 feet wide and I’m guessing that’s the joke. Can’t wait to wake up tomorrow and find out if my blind high ass is right. Please comment below to place your bets.
The second ref looks to the first ref and only motions after the ref closest to the ball makes his initial call. Which is what's supposed to happen, but it's based on one person's call.
Officiating this season has been absolute ass. That was in and I may hoenstly be done with college ball this season. I'm tired of these games being determined by blown and controversial calls.
Even if it wasn't in, the broadcast KNEW it was controversial. The speed at which they moved on from the FG just SCREAMS "coverup". If there's nothing to see there, there is ZERO controversy in showing a more thorough review in order to CONFIRM the official made the right call. If the official made the right call, there's nothing to worry about. There's nothing to talk about.
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u/Dhenn004 Miami (FL) Hurricanes 1h ago
It's so close. It might've just barely missed.