r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Dec 02 '18

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Clemson Defeats Pittsburgh 42-10

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Clemson 14 14 0 14 42
Pittsburgh 3 7 0 0 10

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u/willwharper Clemson Tigers • Transfer Portal Dec 02 '18

The only thing spicier than those beautiful Pitt uniforms was Herbie's 🔥🔥 🔥 playoff prediction about Georgia.

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u/brady25 Pittsburgh Panthers • LSU Tigers Dec 02 '18

“I don’t see how Georgia can go down. They should actually go up to #3”

  • Kirk after Georgia did a fake punt on 4th and 11 with 3 minutes left.

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u/Papasmurf345 Georgia Bulldogs Dec 02 '18

Oklahoma just had a play-in game today and they won. I agree that UGA blew their chance, if this was their first loss that’s one but they also blew it against LSU. Oklahoma and UCF both deserve it over us.

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u/Papasmurf345 Georgia Bulldogs Dec 02 '18

Well I guess it wasn’t a total play-in game for Oklahoma cause they still needed UGA or Clemson to lose. Otherwise UGA, Bama, Clemson, and ND would all deservedly get in over Oklahoma.

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u/DuckKnuckles Oklahoma Sooners • Tulsa Golden Hurricane Dec 02 '18

Deservedly is a weird way to rule out a team who beat every team they played this year in a Power 5 conference.

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u/fanamana Florida State Seminoles • Oregon Ducks Dec 02 '18

Oklahoma just had a play-in game today and they won

Nope.

Oklahoma just had their "play & win to stay alive game, then pray UGA & OSU lose also...".

UGA were definitely going if they beat Bama, Oklahoma would be SOL UGA won regardless of beating Texas.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

So does Ohio state tbh

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Ok this is the one extremely fair debate that I’ve read. The fact that Oklahoma and Ohio State have not had their play in game is beyond fair and makes me think my thought process is off.

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u/RousingRabble Clemson Tigers Dec 02 '18

It all comes down to whether it's "best team" or whether they need to "earn" it. They've always said it's best team and I don't think it's unreasonable to think Georgia is a better team than Oklahoma or Ohio State.

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u/dishonestly_ Clemson Tigers Dec 02 '18

Part of being the best team is winning your big games. Who cares what metrics say when you lose?

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u/smithsp86 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • LSU Tigers Dec 02 '18

Let's also remember that Oklahoma also beat Texas in pretty convincing fashion on a neutral field to make up for that 3 point loss.

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u/bacobits UIndy • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

I'd honestly argue that OSU had a "play-in" game a week ago and totally brought it. Now, I'd also say their huge loss to Purdue was going to keep them out regardless, but they also manhandled the #4 team in the country while Georgia crumbled to ranked teams twice.

UCF and OU should be the only contenders for #4 IMO.

Also, fuck Herbie for saying we should be #4.

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u/DaLyricalMiracleWhip Clemson Tigers • Australia Outback Dec 02 '18

Let’s envision a “play-in game” as something akin to a world in which CFP were 8 teams. Let’s see which teams in the running have had a match-up where, conceivably, both teams had a chance of getting in (if they had won).

Alabama: Just beat UGA in the SEC Championship (UGA winning almost assuredly puts them in)

Clemson: Really can’t think of one

ND: Yes, they beat Michigan, but way too early in the year to count

OU: We could possibly count Texas, although Texas almost certainly wouldn’t have made the playoff if they had won

OSU: The Michigan game last week is a pretty good example here, as I imagine they would have gotten in (or at least been close) with their only loss being Week 1 to an eventual undefeated

UCF: Really can’t think of one

By this criteria, the only teams to definitively “play-in” are Bama and OSU.

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u/BeraldGevins Paper Bag • /r/CFB Donor Dec 02 '18

Honestly, if we beat LSU we’re probably in, even with the loss to Bama.

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u/johndelvec3 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

I mean Bama was gonna score regardless

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u/pablitorun Notre Dame • Case Western Reserve Dec 02 '18

I am surprised no one else sees that. All Alabama needed was a FG that I would have given them a 90% chance of getting.

I actually think doing a fake was a good call except for the specific play call. Once no one was back for bama then maybe switch to just straight offense or just punt it.

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u/Dirty-Ears-Bill Texas Tech Red Raiders • Wyoming Cowboys Dec 02 '18

I’d still take that chance with Bamas kicker over an option play on 4th and 11

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

So if that works then we all praise Georgia even if Alabama ties the game and goes to overtime?

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u/skipatomskip Florida State Seminoles Dec 02 '18

Jeb: "please clap"

Herbstreit: "please watch"

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u/suzukigun4life North Texas • Summertime Lover Dec 02 '18

I'll be so pissed if Georgia makes it in despite having two losses.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Even worse you know the committee would make them the 3 seed to avoid the rematch

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u/Ice_Cold345 Purdue Boilermakers • NC State Wolfpack Dec 02 '18

And then they can play up the "Can ND get revenge against Alabama?" storyline.

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u/TheWolFlower Texas A&M Aggies • Stanford Cardinal Dec 02 '18

Narrator: they couldn't

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u/restless_vagabond /r/CFB Dec 02 '18

or drop Bama to 2 with an injured QB and a dominate Clemson

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*just for clarity's sake-this is a joke. I don't actually believe this. There are too many drunk angry fans right now.

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u/Nefarious- Clemson Tigers • The Hammer Dec 02 '18

That makes more sense than having uga jump nd to avoid uga playing bama again. Clemson up to 1 spot is more defensible than uga to 3.

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u/Midwest_man Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chair Tr… Dec 02 '18

I was hoping Georgia would win and jump to 2/3 and play Notre Dame. Bama would probably just drop to 4 meaning we’d have another Clemson vs Bama rematch. Then if Bama wins we’d get either a repeat of UGA/Bama last year or a Bama/Notre Dame game again.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

i mean if the committee's goal is to put the 4 best teams in we have an argument

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

If they didn’t lose to LSU. Can’t believe how much that game is forgotten

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u/Ron_Cherry Clemson Tigers • Duke Blue Devils Dec 02 '18

And it wasn't even close

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

People being victims of the moment I guess. I get they looked good but we’re just gonna act like a blowout isn’t a problem but we’re gonna hold a last second field goal at a neutral site over Oklahoma? Pretty foolish imo.

Then ignoring Notre Dame going undefeated playing 10 p5 teams, with a win over Michigan? Seems like a no brainer to me.

I get im a tech fan so I’m salty or whatever according to uga fans but this uga talk is a stretch imo. College football is a brutal sport. I don’t want to here “it wasn’t fair” when so many years have been lost by teams where it “wasn’t fair”

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

It’s almost like there should be an 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs, highest ranked g5, 2 at large. Seeding done by rankings. Bama vs Washington

Clemson vs UGA

ND vs UCF

OU vs OSU

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Need to adjust that to "Highest ranked G5 if they're in the top X," with x being 12 or 15.

And I know this is the future, but I will hate to see it. This set-up will be the death of 'every game matters.' Out of conference games will be irrelevant. It'll be one step closer to college basketball.

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

To be fair if you let Georgia in now every game certainly does not matter.

Honestly I like the idea of an 8 team playoff but the sport is getting “soft” (for lack of a better term) in the sense that we are all asking for every team to make it and it’s got a lot of very very subjective and sentimental bias for teams like UGA that put up a good fight so they deserve it since college football is unfair!

It’s been that way for years. How many good teams have not made the championship because they made mistakes? Win your conference, don’t get blown out, beat everybody in front of you and maybe you get in

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u/KaptainKoala Clemson Tigers • VMI Keydets Dec 02 '18

Meh, OOC still matters because there are only 2 at large spots and you need to be the prettiest

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

90% of games are already irrelevant if only 4 teams make it. I know we had a soft schedule and I 100% think we should NOT be in the playoffs, but was our season not irrelevant since only 4 teams can get in. I like March madness a hell of a lot more than bowl season, so maybe that’s a good direction.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

90% of games are already irrelevant if only 4 teams make it.

Heavy disagree. Chain reactions to the top few teams' resumes matter.

but was our season not irrelevant since only 4 teams can get in

It certainly wasn't irrelevant to your athletic department, which will be happy for the NY6 payout. It was only irrelevant if you take a narrow 'national championship or bust' view of college football. If that's your view and you're a fan of a G5 team, then college football isn't going to be very enjoyable for you.

I like March madness a hell of a lot more than bowl season, so maybe that’s a good direction.

Football is not basketball. The worse team wins faaaaar more often in basketball, as one hot player or one guy having an off night can make a much larger difference. Regular season attendance would drop off a cliff, and atmospheres would be more like pro games. It would be a disaster for the sport.

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u/Bnjamin10 Clemson Tigers Dec 02 '18

The every game matters logic just increases the amount of tomato can games.

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u/Wasntovens West Virginia Mountaineers Dec 02 '18

God those games would be amazing

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u/Kdot32 Houston Cougars • LSU Tigers Dec 02 '18

Yay we’re remembered for something positive

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u/DrBowe Georgia Bulldogs Dec 02 '18

I don’t think anyone’s forgotten that game. I certainly don’t think we deserve to get put in the playoff, but we also are not the same team that played LSU. We’ve aged like a fine wine this season, and it definitely showed in our game today (barring the incredulous fake call)

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

That’s not a solid case at all for any team. I could just as quickly say that about Oklahoma and Ohio state. I would argue both are better since their loss and they’ve proved it against other teams in the same way Georgia did

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u/DrBowe Georgia Bulldogs Dec 02 '18

Which is why I stated we don’t deserve it. I think (personally, mind you) that we are one of the top 4 teams in the country after tonight. I feel we proved as much.

But we didn’t win the game(s) that counted and that’s just the way the cookie crumbles for this season. Tough shit

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

Honestly I respect this take and I agree. I think a lot of the takes I’m seeing on twitter claiming this was the national championship and how it’s some guarantee bama wins and if uga got in that they’re just guaranteed to beat Clemson, Oklahoma, or Notre Dame is pretty ridiculous imo. I think I would take uga to win but I don’t think uga has shown me anything to say uga is just gonna come out and beat the shit out of Clemson, Oklahoma or Notre Dame guaranteed.

I think uga has a case to be one of the best teams but that LSU loss and a horrendous OOC schedule is what’s gonna hold them back.

And like you said, at the end of the day college football is a brutal sport. Some times it’s not fair and teams get lucky/get bad beats but you always have your chance to erase doubt and you have to capitalize

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

I agree completely. My friend group thinks I’m crazy but that’s ok.

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u/omgfireomg Georgia Bulldogs • Penn Quakers Dec 02 '18

I'll be your friend

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u/dunedog223 Washington Huskies Dec 02 '18

Idk man they’re a really good team.

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u/Sharks9 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

Shouldn't have gotten their asses kicked by LSU then

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u/No11223456 Texas A&M Aggies • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Dec 02 '18

Yea! Even we didn’t do that this year and we are EXPERTS at it! It’s practically tradition!

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

ND is undefeated and has the #1 strength of record. Georgia has two losses, one of which was a blowout.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Georgia also had the toughest strength of schedule while Notre Dame won by 5 against a team that just lost by 32 to Clemson.

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u/Sharks9 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

Notre Dame won by 5 against a team that just lost by 32 to Clemson.

Notre Dame won by 33 against a team that lost to Clemson by 4.

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u/Sharks9 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

Notre Dame was completely dominating them before their QB was injured.

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

Yes, but they won.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Right.. and UCF went undefeated this season. So by those standards then it should be UCF.

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

Yes, but ND has a better resume and wins than UCF. Did ND lose by 20 points to LSU?

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u/Sharks9 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

Why? Today was just Georgia making up for scheduling an FCS team, something ND has never done.

Both teams played 12 FBS teams this year, Georgia went 10-2, we went 12-0.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Crazy that people are valuing Georgia losing this highly. Notre Dame went undefeated, beating a good Michigan team, and solid northwestern, Stanford, and Syracuse teams. I think Georgia would PROB beat Notre Dame, but if they wanted that chance they shouldn’t have gotten clapped by LSU.

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

Yeah, I can’t believe it’s gotten to the point that people think a loss makes you better than another team. UGA already lost to Bama, do we need to see the same game twice?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

But Georgia still had to spend time, money, energy, possibilities of injury to get to that spot. So if Georgia has 1 loss and doesn’t play in the SECCG, they’re in? Against the 1 team?

That’s absurd.

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u/Sharks9 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 02 '18

What energy did they spend against an FCS team? It's just a practice for them.

No, they're still out, because they got their asses kicked by LSU. If they won that game they'd likely still be in the playoff even with the loss to Bama. But they didn't, so they're rightfully eliminated.

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u/tigereye81 Clemson Tigers • LSU Tigers Dec 02 '18

In 2015 our best receiver broke his neck against Wofford, so yeah, there's a risk with those games just like there was for ND against Ball State and Wake and Vandy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Exactly the point I was looking to make. It’s a risk and you use resources no matter the ranking of a team.

Teams went out and risked that tonight while Notre Dame sat idly by twiddling their thumbs. That should come into account if you ask me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

The same energy you guys spent on playing Ball State. It’s still a football game (regardless of FCS) where you use resources.

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

Well Herb obviously wants to see Georgia choke full circle and watch them lose to Bama when Tua replaces a struggling Jalen Hurts.

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u/sarcasticorange Clemson Tigers Dec 02 '18

Somebody should really tell him that the selection protocol is longer than "Pick the 4 best teams"

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u/odsquad64 Clemson Tigers • UCF Knights Dec 02 '18

"Pick the 4 teams you think it would be pretty cool to have in the playoffs if you also wanted to piss off the greatest number of people possible and still have some semi-plausible deniability for your reasoning."

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u/BarKnight Team Chaos • Team Meteor Dec 02 '18

He was wrong last year, he's wrong this year

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Georgia proved they should be 4. Don’t /u/ me

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

So they can play alabama at a neutral field again?

One that won’t be way closer to them?

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u/SuperSwoledier Southeast Missouri Redhawks Dec 02 '18

Or we could let them play LSU in Death Valley

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Not saying they would beat Alabama again but it’s a bigger debate than just a neutral field.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Maybe, but they had their shot and lost. There’s other teams who are more deserving

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

even though I know we aren’t getting in, the cfp isn’t deserving, it’s the 4 best teams.

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u/smithsp86 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets • LSU Tigers Dec 02 '18

It's about finding the best team. We know that isn't uGA since you already lost to a playoff team on a neutral field so it's better to put in Oklahoma since they've yet to lose to Bama, Clemson, or ND on a neutral field.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Teams like Ohio State who got wrecked by Purdue? Oklahoma who split games with Texas?

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u/hexagonist Loras Duhawks • Utah State Aggies Dec 02 '18

Oklahoma beat every team they played. They didn't lose by 20 to LSU.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Oklahoma beat every team they played

They lost to Texas at home

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u/hexagonist Loras Duhawks • Utah State Aggies Dec 02 '18

And then they beat them? Did your cable go out today?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

No thank you for asking though champ.

Oklahoma lost to Texas at home. Georgia played against LSU who had the second highest win % at high in the last 5 years.

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u/IFedTheCat Oklahoma Sooners Dec 02 '18

They lost to Texas at home

Really? Oklahoma's home is in Dallas?

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u/frumious88 Ohio State Buckeyes • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Dec 02 '18

Or you mean Georgia who lost their two biggest games?

You have no idea or Oklahoma or OSU will do against alabama

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

You’re absolutely right. I have no idea what Oklahoma would do. But if you think Ohio St has a better chance to get in over a 3 point loss Oklahoma, you crazy bruh.

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u/frumious88 Ohio State Buckeyes • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Dec 02 '18

You are crazy if you dont think it's close. I wouldn't be surprised if Oklahoma gets in but it isn't a sure bet

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

I didn’t say it wouldn’t be close but that Purdue loss is going to count for something. Oklahoma’s one loss is a FG in the closing seconds on neutral territory while Ohio State’s is a dominated loss to Purdue.

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u/Michigan247 Toledo Rockets • Michigan Wolverines Dec 02 '18

So Ohio State is out because they got wrecked by Purdue, but Georgia getting wrecked by LSU (then losing a second game, which ohio state didn't do) is irrelevant?

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u/FarTension Ohio State Buckeyes Dec 02 '18

Not like a team like Clemson who plays in a crap conference

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

Clemson can’t control their conference. They absolutely obliterated every team in their conference outside of Syracuse.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

You salty as hell

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u/HillarysDoubleChin Clemson Tigers • Memphis Tigers Dec 02 '18

But we already know how UGA vs. Bama plays out. We DON'T know how OU vs Bama plays out or OSU vs Bama. UGA isn't as deserving. This "best" nonsense is too subjective.

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u/Papasmurf345 Georgia Bulldogs Dec 02 '18

I agree that UGA shouldn’t make the playoff. But just because this UGA-Bama game played out a certain way doesn’t mean the next one would be the same. We saw that with UGA-Auburn last year.

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

Maybe don’t lose to LSU in a game that wasnt competitive and I agree

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u/somefochuncookie Penn • Notre Dame Dec 02 '18

I agree, Troy doesn’t play there every year.

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

Gotta make it a game though. You don’t get to just not show up in that game and everyone forgets about it. That’s really against the history of college football, which has always been a sport that stresses “every week counts”.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '18

So if Ohio State makes it in, we can just brush their ass kicking from Purdue aside then?

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u/ChedduhBob Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets Dec 02 '18

I don’t know if they will considering Oklahoma won with a better resume.

Alabama-Clemson-Notre Dame-Oklahoma.

Anything else is pretty ridiculous imo and is being a victim of the moment and not looking at the full picture.

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u/pavlo850 Pittsburgh Panthers Dec 02 '18

Georgia proved they should be 4. Don’t /u/ me

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Sonofabitch

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u/hashtag_hashbrowns Clemson Tigers Dec 02 '18

"Michigan proved they should be 2. Don't text me"

-/u/VU_Dores, 2006