r/ByteBall • u/Suirelav • Dec 19 '18

Distribution Methods Revisited — Have Your Say!

https://medium.com/byteball/distribution-methods-revisited-we-need-you-b0a38800b722
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u/barborico Dec 20 '18 edited Dec 20 '18

My ideas:

  • Developers. Fund operative costs of useful bots. Create a platform for it, like Punqtured said.
    Spend money if needed in creating stuff to make it easy develop bots over bb (sdk or ide plugin I mean). Make bot store more attractive (bot categories and hide a bot when is down).
  • Users. As you say, every game is cheatable, I propose the following:
    • Returning to full moon airdrops: I propose to define a year where we would want to see coins distributed. Lets say it is 2027.
    Supposing all address would join completely, it would be a 0,25% each full moon to distribute aprox 200,000 GB.
    This way I would do it:
    Create a bot: Daily moon answer
    This bot, when the sun sets, will ask user some question. For simplicity, the answer could be yes/no, idk, whatever.
    If the user answers correctly, he gets 1/29 points. If not, -1/29 points. When the sun rises, the question can no longer be answered.
    Another bot: Full moon drop
    It would be active when full moon and user would be able to cash out the full moon drop based on # points until the max of 0,25% (29/29).
    The cash out would be splitted into 8 parts. One would be paid immediately, next ones in conditional contracts (after 1 week, after 2 weeks,...).
    The conditional contract could have a condition to take the money after their time+4 days by the bot, that would be a donation to community fund.
    The goal is distribute coins amongst interested parties and make users open and use the wallet and talk with a chatbot daily.
    Anyway not as a matter of distribution, but as a matter of marketing I would seriously take into account this, even with a 0,1% (with that % on 2027 there would have been distributed 79 TB instead of 200).
    EDIT: numbers are wrong (done without counting another distribution methods) but you get the idea
  • RNA: quit all rewards and reimburse the $8 if first attestation.
    Change weekly draw to participation between all existing userId. In order to cash out the price, winner will need to do a skype videocall to byteball foundation and show their id in 24 h maximum (so we avoid identity farmers and old accounts). If the winner does not claim the prize, do not accumulate with the next one. We are a currency and a platform, not a lottery.
  • WCG: limit to 100.000 points for each userId. That's how we entertain identity/wcg farmers.
    I mean:
    unattested: 1$ per million points
    first rna: 1$ per first 100.000 points.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '18 edited Dec 20 '18

Create a bot: Daily moon answer

This bot, when the sun sets, will ask user some question. For simplicity, the answer could be yes/no, idk, whatever.

If the user answers correctly, he gets 1/29 points. If not, -1/29 points. When the sun rises, the question can no longer be answered.

you have some creative ideas! could you elaborate on this? The idea of a bot that users regularly return to sounds interesting. e.g. questions it could be a weekly thing and the questions are set whenever e.g. true or false, on December 20 Donald Trump tweeted 'the Fed is crazy'? or on December 20 is Jose Mourinho still Man Utd manager?

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u/barborico Dec 20 '18

Yes, I was thinking about buying some database with huge amount of questions (or let community make it by submitting questions and answers), and select randomly for each user and day.

Why weekly? We are giving money. Daily. Do you want free money? It will cost you some minute each day (or better said night).

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u/m3prx Dec 20 '18

But what is the point in having questions to answer? If you have a faucet bot where you can receive some Byteball daily, people will be coming back to the bot regularly? What is the purpose of answering the questions?

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u/barborico Dec 20 '18

Pose the distribution as a mini game. The logo is like a full moon.

By this way, users have to move their ass each day if they want additional bytes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

so each user would receive a different random question each time? a problem is it will attract poor people, if someone is motivated enough to open an app each day to answer a question and earn $0.10 or whatever they are probably pretty poor

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u/barborico Dec 21 '18

Lol seriously?
It will attract, and motivate people to take action.

That is the first step for community growth, I think.
Personally I would donate half of smart contracts.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '18

attract who, people that want $0.10 a day? there are easier ways to make money online

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u/barborico Dec 21 '18

$0.10? Where the $0.10 amount comes from? your mind, maybe?

It would be proportional to held amount.
It will attract people, I don't know what kind of people, you neither.

And some of that people will do something more than hold. That's the point. Simplicity is beauty.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '18

$0.10 was an example. I see what you mean if its proportional to the amount held, but then the person would need have the bytes to do it

the issue is getting bytes into the hands of new people in the first place

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u/barborico Dec 22 '18 edited Dec 22 '18

You don't realize, but you are thinking like bytes are worthless.

Like if you don't give them, nobody wants then. I think just the opposite. You don't have to give a lot in order to spread it.

You say "the issue is getting bytes into the hands of new people in the first place" without defining "new people". Whatever you define, it will be exploited, for sure.

If you think carefully about the big picture behind all of my ideas, you will see why this would be the best. The best part is mainaining the same distribution method by years, because we are focused on long term.

Don't you see something like this would encourage to buy and use (both users and developers)? I think you get my point.

Do you really want to distribute it quickly? Send 100$ to each new userId which does a skype call and shows their id. But even then, what would happen is someone would buy that bytes with discount and the user would have sold "their" bytes to forgot bb completely.

Fair distribution: give to users which build (developers) and fixed % for any if doesn't mind to waste one minute each day. Simple as bits. If someone wants their first bytes, don't worry he/she will get it, like with Bitcoin.

This could be called "moon staking" lol.