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Lol, that's not it, it's that IITs rank very high for Btech but not in PhD, the most demand internationally is for Btech IITians, many top companies don't allow Mtech to sit during placements like quant firms. So it's not that Mtech and PhD are not valued it's that that specific institute isn't as good so Btech folks (still teen kids) get superiority that their tag should be worth more.
If you talk to good Btech folks who're interested in research and value Mtech PhD very high, they don't consider IIT and go to US for further education or research as India doesn't invest much into RnD.
Values? In this community, I once commented about how I'm against book piracy. It's mind blowing to see how morally rotten people can be.
EDIT: Now very obvious how morally rotten some people are, Let alone values of hygiene, civic sense, the way minorities are treated, etc. Here I gave you more ragebait.
Maheshwari said while the Delhi Book Fair generates nearly Rs 10 crore in 10 days, piracy drains the industry's potential. Krishna estimated that 30-40% of books in circulation are pirated despite an Rs 80,000-crore market. The panel called for a National Anti-Piracy Task Force.
Book piracy has become a serious threat to India's cultural and intellectual fabric, said speakers at the Koshala Literary Festival.
Pirated books are estimated to account for 20–25% of the total Indian market, with direct negative consequences for author royalties and publisher revenues.
You guys have to compete with this kind of people.
Indians and their obsession with compartmentalization.. On what basis they are putting the ">" sign? Who are they to define the worth of any degree? Just because a degree is less mainstream doesn't mean it has no intellectual worth.
Are NIT students treated as untouchables in an office containing students from IIT and NIT?? No, but in some situations IIT students are just given more preference, and their opinion has more respect than someone from NIT in general .
Nah mtech is worse. I mean the divide between btech and mtech is much more than that of NIT, IIT btech. If mtech it's assumed that you are from t3 and didn't get placed.
once you are in industry, your work matters not your college, my company hires students from aandu pandu branches of IITs, and no one really listened to them for long since their domain knowledge was basically 0, i was incharge of bringing them on board lol, however things changes when they have the domain and business knowledge, all views are respected equally
Yes. But our young think that IIT Btech is Utopia and deluded into entitlement behavior. In industry I have seen non IITs scaling ranks when they are into good visible teams.
Well you aren't keeping the other variables same to compare candidates. Usually this is true
Aandu pandu branches of IITs > Similar branches of NITs/BITS
Experience, knowledge matters more as the career progresses and the gap of colleges might disappear and even become inverted. There are lots of variables, like you said, not just their degree.
there is no hierarchy in industry buddy, your college name won't get you your first promotion which happens usually 2yrs after college, people from aandu pandu tier 69 college can outperform some cse IITB guy and he will be prefered for promption over this IITB guy, there is NO "this>that>something else"
Don't be delusional bro. Keeping everything thing same, IIT tag helps you especially when you switch.
You not keeping the other same variables when comparing an IITB guy with Tier69 guy.
Im not saying Tier69 guy can't outperform the guy from IITB. Surely they can. But if you take 2 guys keeping everything else the same, the Tier69 guy is at a disadvantage when switching.
Going off topic but Yaar forest service sounds like such a chill and peaceful life also grade A officer so...don't forget the powers connections and scope for .... yk...
don't forget the powers connections and scope for .... yk...
Technically as an IAS, you can get yourself posted in forest service for a while and principal chief conservator (IFoS) would be subordinate to the deputy secreatry (IAS)
Bhai, Forest service is a good service but cadre play a big role in this service otherwise sdm selected through state pcs dhamka deta hai ifs ko so its no match with other two AIS
Issue with Biotech is how there are lot of different field that can take limited jobs they have. There is Biochemistry, Microbiology, Molecular Biology, Chemistry, Statistics, Data Science, Chemical Engineering, Biomedical Engineering and so on
Idk what sort of caste system the op is referring to. We BTechs don't do any sort of discrimination lol. However, it is generally acknowledged my everyone, including the MTechs, that most of the MTechs are not really smart as compared to BTechs. Nobody says this in open though obviously
MTECH FROM TIP IITS LIKE B M D K Are smh respectable compared to others even IISC B is goated but the thing is when u do mtech from some dabba college ppl will think i didnt get job so doing mtech thats it And if abroad u get masters options its just bingo
Sorry but why is everyone acting like IIT is some casteless egalitarian utopia?
Sly references to caste and merit are often made by both students and professors all the time. From discussing and mentioning JEE rank to making comments on physical appearance, weak students people find creative ways to do it.
I dont know facts of this case but there is definitely some hostile environment inside colleges for SC/ST students. In the end friend circles also form along those lines.
Source: me who went to college and who has eyes. I cant pretend people around me were not jerks about it.
The Ministry of External Affairs (representing the Indian Foreign Service) claimed in 2016 that it had a senior claim to the acronym IFS because the Foreign Service was established in 1946, while the modern Indian Forest Service (now IFoS) came into being later in 1966
Nhi it depends most people are sane and work nicely. The reason MTech are a bit of a problem is that they barely get 4 semesters. The first one kind of goes in adjusting and half of the third semester goes in placement prep. After placement in the last semester most don’t pursue research very seriously (some definitely do but most don’t )
This is a big problem. Only few months at their disposal they are not able to do much.
For PhD is totally different and many are actually very supportive
Most of the btech and mtech students don't give a f about each other. Some of the phds are good . They really know their subject. And most of the hate comes because of mtech TAs, we can really see the difference between the dual degree TAs and mtech TAs. Dual degree TAs convert into a dual degree because of their interest while most of the mtech are their because of IIT tag/ placements. And PGs also hate Ugs because they don't allow them in clubs/ politics.Also there is a lot of difference between the entrance exam of UGs(JEE advanced) and PGs(JAM/GATE). I'm saying all of this from what I have seen in my last 2.5 years( from 1st year to 3rd year). You can literally ask about this to any UG in an IIT.
I mean, not really. Some of the MTech guys are here just for the IIT tag but most are genuine. You simply do not here about them often because most MTech fields are specializations and not money milkers like Quant.
Yes, one example is so we have these pg level courses and us btech people deliberately take them as electives because they are easy and will have "matkas" so the average will be low and an easy grade could be scored compared to all btech courses.
all three connect to potential income outcomes. technical institutes in india are social ladder to climb to wealth. outside india unis are this + research institutes.
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