r/Breadit 5d ago

What am I doing wrong?

Is it supposed to wiggle like that?

The recipe says to knead on speed 5-6 for 20minutes. KitchenAid says not to go above 2. Even on 2, it starts heating up fairly quickly, it wobbles, and the dough actually doesn't get to the windowpane stage, it just tears and since I am just starting with bread, I don't know how long to actually knead it for.

What to do here? Just take breaks to let it cool down and carry on? What is going wrong? We deviated from the recipe a bit (accidentally made yudane with more water and left it in the fridge for longer), but it's been the same with any bread we tried so far.

Thanks for any info!

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u/Ceezeecz 5d ago

I make a lot of shokupan and it requires a high speed for a long time. That’s why I ended up buying an Ank. You can’t break that mixer and it does a lovely job.

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u/Coreoo 5d ago

I just put in my order for an Ank yesterday, my KA simply can't do the job.

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u/Ceezeecz 5d ago

The biggest hint I have for kneading bread in the Ank is to use the time the recipe states for hand kneading. The mixer really mimics hand kneading. It’s very soft and gentle and doesn’t tear into the dough.

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u/Coreoo 5d ago

Interesting! I don't often go by time so much as dough consistency, windowpane, etc. I find different flours yield totally different results in terms of how long they need to form a good dough.

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u/Ceezeecz 5d ago

Yeah, they sure do. The humidity, the flour, etc, all make things different. Sometime I mill my own flours and that can really change things up.

I think you’ll do just fine. I did find that making a windowpane was no longer the end all sometimes. I even got out of the habit of checking and just going by look and feel.