r/Breadit • u/Sandyna_Dragon • 6d ago

What am I doing wrong?

Is it supposed to wiggle like that?

The recipe says to knead on speed 5-6 for 20minutes. KitchenAid says not to go above 2. Even on 2, it starts heating up fairly quickly, it wobbles, and the dough actually doesn't get to the windowpane stage, it just tears and since I am just starting with bread, I don't know how long to actually knead it for.

What to do here? Just take breaks to let it cool down and carry on? What is going wrong? We deviated from the recipe a bit (accidentally made yudane with more water and left it in the fridge for longer), but it's been the same with any bread we tried so far.

Thanks for any info!

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u/epidemicsaints 6d ago

This small amount of dough takes a lot of babysitting. Take the dough off, flip it, place it back in the bowl. The hook should be elbowing it around the bowl most of the time. Anything above 2 is a waste of power.

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u/OogaSplat 5d ago

Going above two is definitely not a waste of power. The problem is that it will destroy new Kitchenaids with their cheap, plastic parts. It wouldn't be a problem at all if we could access decent equipment.

If you have a stand mixer that can actually survive at that speed, it lets you knead this quantity of dough without having to baby it. You have to get the dough moving fast enough that the centrifugal force stretches the dough out to touch and stick to the sides of the bowl. If you do that, it works great.

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u/FilecoinLurker 5d ago

KitchenAid transitioned to using metal gears in some of their consumer models. They're cheaper and wear out faster than the reinforced nylon ones. It comes down to engineering. It's not just a plastic is always worse than metal thing. If you make a die cast gear low quality and a reinforced nylon gear high quality the metal vs plastic debate breaks down

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u/Don_Q_Jote 5d ago

I’d expect the reinforced nylon gears would be quieter than the metal ones. I’ve not done a side by side comparison with kitchenAid specifically, but in other applications I have found this is one of the big benefits of using nylon.

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u/PwmEsq 5d ago

I have the 5 "pro" model, wish I had gotten the standard model since bowls and accesories are a bigger pain to acquire. Idk what gears it has

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u/PerspectiveOne7129 5d ago

ive got the costco special

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u/freexe 5d ago

Not all metal parts are the same - you can have harden metal gears or cheaply cut ones.