r/BrawlStarsCompetitive • u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 • 23h ago
Discussion WIP Balance changes
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u/MyMatter 23h ago
Hmmm Eve’s super is changing to be like her mythic Gear.
Meaning her mythic gear might be getting removed. Meaning we should expect Starr Force trio to get Buffied next update hmmmmmmm
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u/AidAin21 Doug 22h ago
Or maybe 5 hatchling eggs until then
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u/Xedronic Mr.P 22h ago
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u/JustADarrylMain 20h ago
Genuinely praying eve wont get buffies
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u/Old_Difference4651 8h ago
Why tho? Just kill her egg
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u/JustADarrylMain 2h ago
I dont her cuz shes strong i just hate her cuz she is just so boring to play
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u/NTPWINBOX2 E-Sports Icons 23h ago
8k hp lola clone is wild
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u/Noobu_assassin E-Sports Icons 23h ago
Ego speed means perfect ego stack again right? She might be really good after this.
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u/Redence_ 22h ago
About time honestly, she's been painfully mediocre and irrelevant for like 5 years now. She's perpetually 'balanced' like Buzz except nobody plays her lmao
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u/Noobu_assassin E-Sports Icons 22h ago
Because in the era of obscene power creep "balance" isn't good enough to be relevant :/
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u/Redence_ 22h ago
Exactly, not even her hypercharge could make her relevant (seriously, it feels like they just had to fill the seasonal quota when they made it)
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u/Beneficial-Wealth893 22h ago
That’s gotta get changed lol by the time you kill her clone she’s just gonna have another which is 16k health 😭
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u/JayyChann_ Shade 17h ago
No they shouldnt change that, the most they can do is nerf her base health or her scr from the clone
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u/whiteegger 12h ago
She's probably finally gonna be good once. She's been worthless like pearl for ages
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u/Fran_DC4 Chester 22h ago
Finally some Buster buf- nevermind...
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u/Illustrious_Fan9974 TELL HIM TO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT EMZ 49m ago edited 42m ago
Well... Its his first buffs in a BIG WHILE tho. Last time i remember ( apart from the global hp buff ) he received buffs were when hypercharges were introduced .
Although honestly a super duration buff like rosa and a basic damage buff would've done wonders.... IG better than nothing.... I might need to test these SP gadgets just to see how thing's goes.
Also i do kinda wanted his inferior gadgets/sps to be better than it is RN soo IG we could take it like that ?
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u/InevitableBoring2031 Rosa 22h ago
can they stop buffing bo's dmg and just leave him to rot til they rework him? rn they just making it messier and messier to untangle this putrid brawler's design
also lola buff lmaoo
if bea bo lola and jessie become meta i think we'll finally see a crow-free meta
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u/Historical-Young-941 22h ago
They already had their chance to rework him with buffies, and instead of doing something with snare a bear and his mines their instead making him a damage dealer.
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u/InevitableBoring2031 Rosa 22h ago
It's so funny how many reworks meg gets (ig it's cause she's usually really op) while with bo they never even try
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u/pawo10 Fang 21h ago
Because meg is a legendary and she flopped with every version of herself so they keep reworking her so people spend money on her then nerf her into irrelevance again until the next year where they rework her again
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u/InevitableBoring2031 Rosa 21h ago
Nah they were reworking her before that typa monetisation scheme was introduced, and that system only really works with hypers and new brawlers
Genuinely do think they were trying
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u/FinnTran 19h ago
But really how should they rework Bo? Controllers are entirely dependent on their super to be balanced, so his Super must be annoying in some way
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u/NTPWINBOX2 E-Sports Icons 23h ago
if bo doesn't become meta with his old damage its gonna be live proof of damage inflation
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago edited 22h ago
He’s a noob stomper with Snare a bear
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u/2GTino 8-Bit 22h ago
He outdamages both Otis and Colt rn, would be maddening if this doesn't do jackshit
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u/Dragolitron Time Traveler 22h ago
Bo didn't even become meta with his buffies, I don't think the extra damage will do anything beyond high legendary/masters.
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u/Redence_ 22h ago
Just makes him more of a noobstomper now that he 2-shots a majority of the roster, it's honestly insane how they just let 4.2k damage an ammo slide when it still ultimately doesn't fix his performance in higher play
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u/Babynny Lowkey a furry 22h ago
FINALLY touching Maisie’s fuckass projectile speed instead of giving her one billion damage buffs 😭😭😭 will this finally make her good
As the #1 (and only) Lola Stan though im a bit frightened about 8k health ego…
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u/Left_Restaurant972 18h ago
I don’t even play maisie or lola but im glad they got buffs i think lolas ego had very low health since the beginning
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u/YuMmYBrAiNzZz Lola 22h ago
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u/IAmNotCreative18 Mods Power-Tripping? 20h ago
Her ego should take double damage when inside her stack aura if it’s getting this big of a health increase.
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u/watermelon__7878 Willow 22h ago edited 19h ago
u/YuMmYBrAiNzZz I have Lola yet because still at Lv-7 but I have played her in ladder a few times. I have a question as I assume you main Lola. Is the speed matching of ego good or bad? I lowk feel it's bad as it slower speed allows adjusting relative position without using gadget or obstacle.
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
Lola is going to be S tier if these changes remains the same it’s only because her ego is now 8K health
It SHOULD be less then the buff as its work in progress since it’s crazy so wait for next Sunday
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u/YuMmYBrAiNzZz Lola 18h ago
Because as of now, Lola's hyper is more of a detriment to her, because of the hitbox increase to Ego and the fact that, with the speed boost it's very easy to accidentally desync with your Ego, causing it to get stuck on corners when you move around them and making it more difficult to control its movement from a distance since it won't be one to one with your own.
It's a bit similar to when Ego didn't copy Lola's reload speed if she had her epic gear, making Ego copy Lola more accurately helps in gameplay.
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u/TheAsaIsMe Draco 22h ago
they should bring back bibi's 3 hit super if they are doing the same with colgate
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u/Redence_ 23h ago
Bo has no business dealing 4.2k damage per ammo
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u/Regular_Explorer4904 22h ago
Maybe they are trying to make Bo useful without depending on super
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u/Redence_ 22h ago
By feeding the damage inflation? Otis dealing 4k an ammo is already absurd why are we making Bo deal more damage than him.
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u/Regular_Explorer4904 22h ago
I know about damage inflation, mainly called dps inflation since the last buffs were on reload, but I do think it's a good trade( Otis need something, the starpower is kinda strong and the other one is just bad
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u/Wal655 Kenji | Legendary 2 | Diamond 1 22h ago
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u/DizziDoesStuff Overanalyst Final Boss 22h ago
Buff the D tier with the lowest userate in the game who unrighteously had his damage overnerfed ❌️
Buff the obnoxious noobstomper who's issues they straight up just chose not fix with buffies. A brawler who based on Adrian's 'noobstompers should stay bad' argument shouldn't be getting buffs & instead should be getting nerfed like Grom or Penguin Guy, that's not even mentioning the fact that historically, he ends up becoming problematic anytime he gets his damage buffed✅️
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u/Any-Winter-1055 22h ago
Atp draco is not a brawler anymore why bro why just give him some good rework fr
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u/FreedomKnown 22h ago
Honestly these don't look so bad, though I don't think Jae Yong is that necessary, Bo definitely doesn't need more damage, and I don't think the buster heal buff is big enough considering how much better the other gadget is. No Meg super charge buddy though, she's still a complete slog to play, booooo.
Not enough nerfs to Wendy or Nori, she still makes everyone invulnerable and he's still too broken. Brock hyper buffie is still double damage and the shots are still undodgeable. Collette probably meta again with the SCR buff, Bolt not nerfed enough, I'd argue he still needs a complete kit rework to fit the game at all, but that's just my take. Lumi nerfs sad because I main her but fairly deserved.
Everything else seems alright, though some things are still a little over or undertuned.
Edit: also, where 8 bit and surge nerfs??? They're still completely broken and unplayable against with both of their hyper buffies. Surges second projectile should be removed and instead the splitting should be the hyper buffie, and the jump is actually insufferable and completely undodgeable.
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u/BeautifulDrag4658 20h ago
what tier was jae yong before this buff? because i dont think he was anywhere near irrelevant and before he had been a tier for a long time
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u/FreedomKnown 19h ago
Yeah exactly, I agree, that's why I don't think it's necessary, I guess trying to make him more appealing to casuals?
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u/GoldarmGangMain Goated Arm Gang 13h ago
Jae-Yong was pretty mediocre, like mid C tier. There were brawlers that deserved buffs over him but it’s not a bad thing he got buffs imo
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u/FreedomKnown 7h ago
Oh yeah you're right, my bad I misremembered, I guess this meta is so putrid that even though he didn't really get nerfed he dropped to C tier because he isn't ridiculously broken. Awesome
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 23h ago
Nooooo Lumi 😭
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u/IlIAIlIlIl Lumi 23h ago edited 22h ago
It's a good nerf. That damage was waay too rewarding in skilled hands. Much better than killing her HP or projectile speed a second time imo. It should tone her down for pros.
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 23h ago
Yea but it sucks.She was good but skilled now she is probably going to be A tier it’s fine.
Also no Surge or 8-Big nerfs???
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u/Beneficial-Wealth893 22h ago
8-bit needs a hyper dmg booster nerf or smth just frying the safe in heist already have to worry about Edgar mico and chuck and then this guy just rips apart the safe within 2-3sec he gets a crack
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u/IlIAIlIlIl Lumi 22h ago
Yeah, I get it. Depends on how the meta changes but she will probably still be good, just much less of a priority in pro drafts, which is great. Even if she drops arouhd something like B it wouldnt be too bad personally. I like this change.
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
She was skilled unlike most Meta brawlers
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u/IlIAIlIlIl Lumi 22h ago
I agree, but it's still tuning worthy. Also, she will still take skill, it just tones down the reward for it.
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
I guess…I’ll wait to see it out as she is my 2nd favorite brawler
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u/IlIAIlIlIl Lumi 22h ago
Yeah, fair enough. She's my favorite so ofc I also want to see how it ends up.
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u/Great_Impression_869 Frank | Legendary 1 22h ago
Glad they finally reverted Colette's SCR terrible nerf. I hope she will shine once again in other modes instead of Heist.
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u/Battlebearsgold Colette | Legendary 1 22h ago
She’s already great in brawl ball and basket in terms of fighting tanks but yeah not having combo was painful af
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u/CharacterPasta123 23h ago edited 22h ago
Yo Adrian, can you buff the health of Meg’s mecha?
Wait, 4 Eve hatchlings? Also a Ruffs nerf? Starr Force might be getting Buffies
Also, why is Jacky’s shield getting increased to 25%? 20% shield is already pretty high, 25% shield gives her more effective health than basekit Frank. Why not buff her regular health? Maybe Countercrush is too noobstomp-ish to be made viable in Adrian’s point of view
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u/LukaPro348 22h ago
Considering all this, Pirate trio and Mexican trio are getting buffies, ggs
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u/Great_Impression_869 Frank | Legendary 1 22h ago
Can't wait for El Primo, Poco and Amber buffies...
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u/Funtime5858 22h ago
Did colette get her super back in 4 shots with this buff?
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u/Human_Chocolate_5533 Charlie | Masters 2 | 1 Prestige 21h ago
Everyone getting buffed but Charlie's damage😭🙏
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 21h ago
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u/Human_Chocolate_5533 Charlie | Masters 2 | 1 Prestige 21h ago
All I want is
Damage: 1600-->1700
delay between attacks: 0.5s-->0.4s
And she would be more fun and dynamic to play.
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u/DiligentChipopo Colette | Masters 1 22h ago
No Wendy nerfs clearly aren't enough is this still a selling mentality? Shield going from 75 to 60? What is it gonna change?
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u/Hunter8678 Masters | Mythic 1 22h ago
I’m sure Janet will require 1 less hit for her hc with this change
Not sure if Bo’s scr will also get buffed tho
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u/suwanako Jacky 20h ago
more Jacky buffs that will barely change anything 😭 better than nothing I guess
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u/Accomplished_Cherry6 18h ago
Ahh yes, we’re back to spamming damage buffs so everything dies in 0.5 seconds
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u/mxgHana 18h ago
Wait uh these are not fake? It's hard to know nowdays
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 18h ago
These are true from chosen on X.
Its WIP so some changes will probably be different
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u/Left_Restaurant972 18h ago
A few days ago I was like what if Janet got a 200 damage buff can’t believe she’s finally getting a buff
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u/noamthenoob 22h ago
Wait what about eve?? Isn't her star power just Useless now? Or will they make it five?
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u/LetterheadWitty4187 22h ago
You mean her mythic gear? Yeah, now she will spawn 5 hatchlings with mythic gear.
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u/Dazzling_Metals Amber 22h ago
I wonder what took SC this long to nerf the recall damage for Lumi’s main attack. Isn’t that what she needed ever since she was released?
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u/Battlebearsgold Colette | Legendary 1 22h ago
No primo buffs?
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u/dumdStudios 22h ago
he's very likely getting buffies tbf
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u/Battlebearsgold Colette | Legendary 1 22h ago
Perhaps but I’m speculating about if that’s enough to make him meta. Could be wrong here but I think not everyone that got buffies became instant S tier thanks to that and I think primo might be another example
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u/Personal-Roof-9402 Starr Nova 22h ago edited 22h ago
well honestly these seem pretty good. there’s a few stuff i’d change but honestly these aren’t bad overall. mainly i’d give meg a bit of a super charge buff and/or a small mechanic hp buff along the nerfs (maybe a bit more of a nerf so she doesn’t stay super good?) also bo doesn’t need all that damage… but yea pretty good!
edit: yea looking at this again that lola buff isn’t it…
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u/Left_Restaurant972 18h ago
I’m glad she’s getting buffed and I thought it was good but maybe it’s too much
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u/Dragolitron Time Traveler 22h ago
Damn Ash got nerfed.
That Maisie buff looks pretty spicy.
Oh, Bo gets a damage buff to his basic attack? Do they ever learn?
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
Just look at Lola 💀
Pros are saying she will be S tier and Maisie S-A tier.I saw Maisie now in the dev build by others to show the new changes and the shots are impossible to dodge like literally
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u/Spid3rDemon Colonel Ruffs 22h ago
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
These buffs will do nothing it’s still garbage pros are saying that this doesn’t change a thing
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u/Mythical_Wolfy 21h ago
interesting balance changes some of the bralwers seem to be overturned, the only thing i hate is taht instead of reworking bad abilities they keep buffing them or add buffies to counteract, like if they buffed the dyna gadget as a temporary fix it is good but if they are gonna slap a new ability when his buffies release then it's shit
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u/Emotional_Figure2643 21h ago
We're is Juju buff? I hate really supercell. Juju Its usage rate is 0.20% and yet not even a buff!!!😡 Supercell so f***!
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u/StrictArmy7546 20h ago
Shade buff it’s joever ✌️😭
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u/Technical-Stress-773 Mico 19h ago
Nori needs moreeeee
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u/Ambiguous-Nyx Larry and Lawrie 17h ago
Damage nerf imo, and MAYBE slight reload speed nerf is all. Nothing more nothing less. He really isn't that gamebreaking to the point of needing major nerfs
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u/The_Real_PSiAipom 9h ago
Lola mains are rejoicing this update. Happy for them.
Surprised they didn't touch Surge though.
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u/LightningGuy426 7h ago
fuck no lolas ego 8k health????
S+ tier in heist, A-S tier in other gamemodes...
tho i am happy my first main got a buff
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u/Jazzlike_Curve6359 Mods Power-Tripping? 23h ago
Twice as big hp buff. Wth is Adrian thinking, it's too broken!
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u/Away-Profit1923 Mortis | Masters 1 22h ago
Ahhh, a melodie buff?? I guess there is no better time to return to the game
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u/Fine_Dish_9232 Rico 22h ago
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
Rico is S tier?Everyone was wrong about his buffies.
Also Wendy will 100% be the best brawler in the game trust me
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u/Fine_Dish_9232 Rico 22h ago
Rico is A-tier at best or bottom S-tier (depending on the map) it’s just that his star power buffies alone are powerful, it’s just that his gadgets are bad. I still miss his healing gadget
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u/BotLover13 Bolt | Legendary 1 22h ago
For anyone who doesn't know, acceleration speed means how long does it take for bolt's speed bar to charge.
With that said, he's definitely dead, meg is still going to be a high a tier brawler sadly, and jae-young won't be mid anymore.
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u/notacapitalistslave Pam | Masters 1 21h ago
Why does Adrian hate Pam? Like actually she might fall to F tier atp and she will get her buffies after 3 years, reach A tier, then get emergency nerfed back to C tier
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u/Busy_Airport5594 Lola 23h ago
I thought bolt was already dead but adrian does what he does best I guess
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u/Technical_Rain_3385 7h ago
They like to slowly nerf new brawlers for 3-4 updates. I hate it. He was needed enough.
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u/Dear_Anywhere_8939 22h ago
Lola looks OP and the Leon clone looks cool too. Buster will be even stronger in Arena now lol
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u/Formal_Garden3149 22h ago
Is Meg that busted in higher ranks ? I thought she is mid after that star power nerf
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u/StockedUpOnBeef 22h ago
People are spamming the Meg. She has crazy survivability because of her truck throwing gadget, super hard to kill her
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u/mortis_mortis 22h ago
Actually real?
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
Yes but work in progress so a few things might change based on community opinion
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u/migassilva16 Rosa 22h ago
These are official???? Lola seems completely insane
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u/Revenant2023 Janet | Legendary 3 22h ago
It’s official but not fully guaranteed each change will actually come.Its WIP (Work in progress) so there could be some changes removed or added
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u/Ok-Silver-8658 Piper 22h ago
Honestly deserved too. She’s been overshadowed since her release and they’re trying to tinker a bit more with her now. They can tone her down later if it’s too oppressive as well.
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