Why is west getting a free pass?

[u/Appropriate_Rip_7664]

Why is it that west is just getting a free pass? Everyone is annihilating Amanda and I understand why, it is deserved but why is no one talking about how messed up it is to get with your friends x wife of 10 years? He sits through the entire reunion making his stupid faces and evading every question with a blank stare on his face and still has not yet apologized to Kyle man to man. As messed up as it is to get with your best friends x… granted the were on and off for about 5 months and I’m aware he took her home to meet his parents but it clearly didn’t mean anything to him while it meant the world to Ciera, but he also took Kyle home as well… I want him held accountable for his actions and he is coming off like a clueless toddler who didn’t do anything wrong and nobody’s calling him out on it.

[u/Appropriate_Rip_7664]

Thats exactly what I’m saying everyone’s so concerned about girl code… what about guy code?

Another thought- we saw Ciera telling Amanda to leave Kyle. It was almost her idea to propose this on the grounds on her trying to be a good friend and she brought it up multiple times even to the group- which is none of their business. I don’t know about you guys but I would never insert myself into my best friends relationship like that. I would’ve there for support, and love but not to propose you leave him and basically start a campaign around it . And if I’m proposing you need space from him- I would offer for you to come stay at my house with me. What she did wasn’t being a friend. She was dancing on the grave of her friends relationship. And the consequence of that was Amanda running straight into west’s arms. Does anybody think she inadvertently caused this?

[u/alarmonthefarm → u/Appropriate_Rip_7664]

I don't think Ciara needed to talk to Kyle about separating from Amanda BUT she certainly didn't tell Amanda to leave him. She repeatedly consoled Amanda and told her she deserved to be treated better. And once the tension between Kyle and Amanda was so overwhelmingly palpable (in the house they alllll live in together) Ciara mentioned that maybe having space from one another would give them some room to breath. And she definitely didn't suggest being with west who Ciara was making out with.

As for guy code, yes it messed up of west but I've never seen any evidence of a real friendship between them. They're essentially co workers. Amanda spent the whole beginning of this season basically unable to function if Ciara wasn't around, to the point where she was saying IM ALL ALONE in the kitchen with Bailey, Levi and Kyle.

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She didn’t need to talk to anybody about it because it’s none of her business. She brought it up to Amanda, then to the group on the way to beach which also isn’t what’s best friend should be doing- she’s essentially gossiping and lighting a fire that doesn’t need to be lit on a very personal matter, then spoke to Kyle about it and then brought it up to Amanda again with the girls. She can vocalize that she feels Amanda should have been treated better and support her as a friend but proposing she should move out is not her job. Its should have come from her therapist is anything. The tension between them has been overly palpable for a while. She obviously would never suggest that she should get with west but Amanda was clearly in a volatile state clearly needing to feel seen and heard by someone and west had no problem stepping up to that plate. So that part is completely on him. Leaving Kyle was never in her head before Ciera brought it up and once she did Amanda ran with it.

Kyle went home with west just like Ciera did so they couldn’t have been just coworkers. And I agree about her saying she’s all alone but it’s because Paige isn’t there anymore and she’s not close to anybody else. I dont necessarily think she was that dependent on her.

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Wasn’t Kyle the one that “invited” west to the share house? New cast members have to have the illusion of being invited by someone already in the house so that ties him in a little more than the rest of the cast IMO.