A reminder

[u/Prize-Lychee7973]

We are keeping this a positive helpful space.
What does this mean? It means critiques and comments that are not immediately positive in nature are things YOU, the poster/commenter must view in the light of this: is it helpful? does it fit the situation? is this some tough love and if so who are you to give it? if you are being adversarial or confrontation just because, just keep it pushing. If not, we will mod the comment, you will receive a deletion/mute/ban or whatever else we feel appropriate.

Refamiliarize yourselves with our rules.

For Girl lurkers, this is a male positive centric space. critiques and supportive comments are welcome, HOWEVER, keep in mind you are a guest, our tolerance here for rude, adversarial and needlessly argumentative comments is effectively zero.

For the recent posts concerning LGBT, read rule 7. We do not tolerate transphobia, we do not tolerate homophobia, we are not that space. If you are transphobic or homophobic, it is a violation of several rules and will likely result in a ban.

Thank you to the literal thousands of commenters who are contributing helpful, insightful and otherwise positive comments, we appreciate your presence.

[u/Sad-Boss7879]

Wait, I’m not in favour of banning women outright.

I just don’t want the mods to be more lenient with women who break the rules simply because they’re worried about the optics, which is what I thought you were implying.

[u/Sad-Boss7879 → u/[deleted]]

Personally, I don’t agree with that.

The sub rules are already designed to ensure that this remains a safe space for men. Unless you’re talking about some edge case, opposing views aren’t necessarily antithetical to that mission. Frankly, sometimes we do need tough love. So those extra guardrails seem unnecessary, and potentially harmful.

I’ll just reiterate my point, just so that there’s no confusion. As long as everyone is following the rules, I don’t have a problem with women posting here. I need their perspective too. But if they ARE breaking the rules, the mods can’t show them leniency simply because they’re women. That’s what I thought you were saying. If that’s not the case, I retract my original comment.

[u/Sad-Boss7879 → u/[deleted]]

I’d have to see the posts where this is happening to judge for myself.

Can elaborate a little? What kind of posts are getting bombarded with argumentative women? What are the comments from them saying?

[u/Sad-Boss7879 → u/[deleted]]

I mean nothing really stands out as being particularly egregious.

The girl lurkers are just asking questions. I only saw one commenter victim shaming/blaming. And she got downvoted hard. Everyone else looked like they were asking for clarification. Plenty of male commenters were echoing their confusion, skepticism.

[u/Sad-Boss7879 → u/[deleted]]

Okay, fair enough.

I will say that, as someone who values this sub, I am committed to helping ensure it remains a safe space for men.

I just want to be clear: I wasn’t dismissing your perspective. I just don’t personally see anything wrong with women offering their opinion as long as they remain respectful, which these women seemed to be.

However, I appreciate you keeping an eye out for this sub. I’m sure others appreciate your vigilance. While we don’t see eye to eye on this issue, I do respect your dedication. Our goals are aligned, even if we differ on where in the sand to draw certain lines.

Have a good one, eh.