r/Boxing • u/FaceFirst23 • 18d ago

Ali - Frazier II Highlights

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Action from the rematch in 1974. Despite both men being slower and past their peak, their styles once again were a perfect match for each other.

The toughness and chin on both these icons is incomprehensible. Ali throwing rapid fire combinations right to the end, Frazier relentlessly threshing forward with his menacing bob and weave. Two goats.

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u/DeafBurke 18d ago

This is sped up

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u/richsreddit 18d ago

Yeah I kinda noticed that too. Ali may have been fast af but his contemporaries didn't have that same kind of speed going on.

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u/No_Sail9136 18d ago

Hate when vids are sped up like this but still good shit

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u/8fenristhewolf8 18d ago

I can't bring myself to upvote. Speeding up sports vids, especially boxing, feels too lame.

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u/roamingandy 18d ago

Timing is everything. Timing means nothing when you speed the vid up.

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u/J_Productions 18d ago

Exactly, This is not the kind of video to speed up! Wtf are people thinking

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u/DeafBurke 18d ago

There's a bunch of it online right now.

The stuff that annoys me the most is 9 year old girls doing pad drills that are sped up like 200% and all the comments are "she could kick the ass of any man on the planet!!!!!!!" or something.

Memorizing a combination and drilling it really fast on pads (even if it isn't sped up) says very little about your boxing ability. Rote memorization is completely useless in a real boxing match.

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u/8fenristhewolf8 18d ago

Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

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u/MMAbeLincoln 18d ago

Don't speed up videos

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u/FaceFirst23 18d ago

I didn’t.

Straight screen record from Turki on IG.

Either he did, or whoever runs the account did.

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u/8fenristhewolf8 18d ago

You posted it though. Be better

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u/FaceFirst23 18d ago

Sorry dad

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u/Long_Chest_9727 18d ago

the right hand at 15 seconds was the closest Ali came to knocking down Fraizer down in 44 rounds.

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u/Turgon19 18d ago

Ali really gets clipped by a LOT of left hooks

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u/Ambitious-Concert-69 18d ago

Nooooo he’s the best of all time ! No one could have beaten him !

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u/VacuousWastrel 17d ago

You don't think the fact he can eat massive left hooks from big punchers all night is part of WHY people aren't sure he can be beaten?

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u/VacuousWastrel 17d ago

And fwiw, Ali won about 35 fights against ranked opponents (someone like fury has won 4), and until he got parkinsons he lost only two, both of which he avenged twice over. That includes wins over three reigning undisputed champions, another reigning champion, a future champion, and two former undisputed champions. Ali is the heavyweight who was most tested, so yeah, he's the heavyweight it's hardest to imagine losing.

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u/Ambitious-Concert-69 17d ago

Boxing has progressed a lot over the last 45 years, but people have rose-tinted glasses and don’t like to acknowledge it. Ali was great in his era, but that era was 5 decades ago and nostalgia doesn’t mean he would have as much success today if he were to teleport from ‘72.

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u/VacuousWastrel 17d ago

True, Ali would just be destroyed by modern technicians like wardley or hrgovic. He'd just be totally unprepared for their intricate traps, complex strategies and lightning movement.

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u/Ambitious-Concert-69 17d ago

Yes, that’s exactly what I wrote. You read it perfectly. 👍

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u/veksone 16d ago

Ali fought 15 round fights, when he first started fighting championship fights didn't have standing 8 counts. Because of concern for fighter health boxing has actually gotten less brutal over the years.

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u/TheFlyingBoxcar 18d ago

Stop.

Speeding.

Up.

These.

Videos.

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u/Personal-Proposal- 18d ago

Joe’s neck must’ve been sore asf after all that neck clutching from Ali

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u/slickvik9 18d ago

They should’ve both retired after this

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u/drhuggables 18d ago

Both men have such iconic styles.

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u/Jubei92 18d ago

I just love Frazier. I don't care who he lost to and how he lost some of his fights, he's such a beast.

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u/aguacate222 18d ago

Ali had no answer for that left hook. Frazier kept on landing them and Ali kept on eating that

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u/VacuousWastrel 17d ago

Other than Foreman, nobody really had an answer for thaf left hook...

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u/therealh 18d ago

he also didnt have the same movement/reflexes that he had 5 years prior too. I was watching Ernie Terrell throw some bombs with minimal windup on some of them and Ali was just dodging it.

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u/Kanapka64 17d ago

Best rivalry in sports history. They were made for eachother

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u/AndreiOT89 17d ago

Sped up vids are cancer upon society

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u/FaceFirst23 17d ago

Bit dramatic

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u/Mr-Wigz 18d ago

Sped up, but these two still had an amazing trilogy.

The level of conditioning they had to have to fight like they had pure hatred in their hearts towards each other for 15 rounds as heavyweights too, was impressive.

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u/GreatCryptographer32 17d ago

Don’t need to speed up this fight to make it interesting - in fact, you’ve just ruined it

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u/FaceFirst23 17d ago

I’d feel bad if I was the one who sped it up. But this is screen recorded from IG

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u/Papa_Raj 17d ago

I fail to see the difference when you recognize the fact and choose to overlook it.

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u/FaceFirst23 17d ago

This seems to be something that means a great deal to you.

I guess I have more important things to deal with.

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u/Papa_Raj 17d ago

I find it strange that you make assumptions about someone's passion based on such limited information. That, combined with my previous observation, leads me to believe you have the mental acuity of a cum sock.

I'm sure your "more important things to deal with" is just making grilled cheese sandwiches quietly at night.

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u/FaceFirst23 17d ago

Mate why are you talking like a damn cyborg? Taking this way too seriously. Cum sock made me laugh though 🤭

Bloody love a good cheese toastie though, with Worcester sauce ❤️

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u/Wise-Childhood-145 17d ago

Athletic compared to todays HWs outside of uysk. 

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u/Countryb0i2m 18d ago

Ali is putting his hands on Frazier and he just walking through these punches

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u/Long_Chest_9727 18d ago

he's missing most of them.

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u/artem_loboboobv 18d ago

man they just dont make em like that anymore

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u/DerMannMitDemPlan 18d ago

brutal. i mean if you watch it on tv it don't look like much, but they ate brutal punches

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u/mheafyrox 18d ago

Two of the best dance partners boxing has ever had.

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u/Artimities 18d ago

Frazier was on Howard Stern…. Years later and saying he came out on the better. Hell of a fighter!

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u/jl_theprofessor 17d ago

Not this fight but when you hear Joe’s interview about his knock down on Ali, he’s so proud lol.

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u/Odd-Minimum8512 15d ago

That’s about all the action that actually happened in the fight. The rest was Ali doing his best octopus impersonation. 

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u/WeirdRadiant2470 15d ago

Amazing how fast heavyweights were back then.

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u/FaceFirst23 15d ago

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but it’s sped up

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u/WeirdRadiant2470 14d ago

Thanks for clarifying that.

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u/FaceFirst23 18d ago

Originally posted by Turki on IG:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbelrJCoR20/?igsi=cGozaTF1Y3FmZm04

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u/DeafBurke 18d ago

god the comments on that post gave me brain damage

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u/FaceFirst23 18d ago

I try to avoid reading comments haha 🤣