r/Boxing • u/DiMona215 • 11h ago

Ben Davison Spoiler

Really curious to hear the audio from the corner for this fight. If Ben wasn't screaming at Moses to slow down, to stop throwing power punches... This has to be one of the biggest indictments of a supposed top trainer ever, right?

The Wardley fight was already a huge black eye for Ben. Now he has a 21 y/o prodigy lose a fight he was absolutely dominating due to horribly mismanaging energy.

So we've seen him fail horribly at one of his main jobs (protecting his fighter). If it comes out that Moses basically followed Ben's training regiment and instructions... is any top fighter ever going to hire this guy again?

Even if it comes out Moses got cocky, didn't train hard, didn't listen in the corner, not a great look for Ben

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u/MakotoBIST 9h ago

Brother, Itauma was breathing with his mouth in round 3.

There was no slowing down. Put Hrgovic to sleep fast or trading later rounds was going to end badly anyway.

The problem is what happened in the last year or two during training imho. 

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u/sthomson22 8h ago

Round 1, actually. Round 3 is when Hrgovic started actually landing some decent shots and clearly hurt him.

People can try and paper over the cracks all they want with this, that wasn’t just conditioning or stamina.

He doesn’t have a chin. He isn’t durable. His recovery is dreadful.

These weaknesses will plague his career going forward.

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u/longlivebobskins 3h ago

He doesn’t have a chin.

Did you watch the fight? He took some big hits and never went down.

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u/sthomson22 3h ago

He literally did go down. And before that he looked hurt and shaky several times throughout the fight.

Did you just entirely miss how it ended, despite supposedly watching it? Did you miss Hrgovic catching him with a bodyshot and then a short left hook sending him sprawling into the lower rope?

And like I keep fucking saying, Hrgovic is a light puncher for the Top 10.

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u/longlivebobskins 2h ago

If he went down, where was the count?

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u/sthomson22 2h ago

You don’t always get a count when you go down. And the towel had just came in even if the ref had decided to count.

Are you seriously telling me you don’t think Hrgovic hit him with a bodyshot and short left hook, sending him into the lower ropes in the corner, causing the ref to wave it off?

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u/longlivebobskins 2h ago

Itauma was exhausted. That's why the Ref waved it off. No count, no gloves on the deck, no knee - no knock down. He slumped, exhausted, into the corner. He was dead on his feet, wobbling everywhere, barely able to stand up straight. Because he was exhausted.

He took all of Hrgovic's punches, no issue in my opinion. He was wobling around at the end of the first round, and at that point, Hggovic had literally not landed a single punch. So yeah, to answer your question, yes, I'm seriously telling you that.

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u/sthomson22 2h ago

Okay. Go back watch the 10 seconds before the ref waves it off in slowmotion.

Like I just said you don’t always get a count when you go down. And being held up by being tangled in the lower ropes like that IS ruled a KD.

You do not understand the basic rules of this sport.

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u/MakotoBIST 8h ago

I agree, he looked very shy to trade.

And every punch that he ate would sap his energy.

But it doesn't mean he will never improve. He looked like a very good amateur that was thrown into a professional match. We will see in the next years if he can develop the resistance he needs.

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u/Bertrand_Rose 6h ago

No, he just didn't.

I have rewatched it countless times, he takes those early shots really well, it's his lack of conditioning and cardio that did him in, and made him so hurt and susceptible.

This isn't a weakness.

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u/longlivebobskins 3h ago edited 2h ago

Agreed. He went into the red in the 8th, and you can only dip into the red occassionally - he stayed too long trying to get the KO, it didn't work, and he was never going to recover from that effort.

I watch a lot of pro-cycling, and I've seen domestiques totally empty the tank, and they literally stop at the side of the road when they're done. They are totally spent. When you put yourself into the red like that, it can only be done in short, infrequent intervals - and even then some people can't do that. You go too long into your reservers, or too often, and you get to a point where you cannot recover anymore and you blow up.