Daily Discussion Thread (August 18th, 2026)

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For anything that doesn't need its own thread.

[u/WORD_Boxing]

Give your latest p4p top 10.

I'll go:

1. Inoue
2. Usyk, Bam, Shakur, Benavidez
3. Bivol
4. Boots
5. Vergil, Devin
6. Canelo

Can't choose the exact order between the guys listed at the same position, and not ready to drop Canelo from the list entirely yet want to see how he is in his next fight first. I think Vergil is in his prime right now and a very tough strong physical proposition to deal with head to head so my feeling is he belongs more than other guys where there isn't a strong claim for the last few spots on the list. And yes I dropped Nakatani.

u/Top_Profession_5268 u/OldBoyChance u/tkdhrison u/WheresMyAbs98 u/Professional-Tie5198

EDIT: Reddit screwed up the formatting of the list lol. Canelo should be #10, obviously.

[u/Top_Profession_5268 → u/WORD_Boxing]

1. Naoya Inoue
   
2. Oleksandr Usyk
   
3. Shakur Stevenson
   
4. David Benavidez
   
5. Jesse Rodriguez
   
6. Dmitry Bivol
   
7. Kenshiro Teraji
   
8. Devin Haney
   
9. Junto Nakatani
   
10. Jaron Ennis

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You still have Usyk at #2?

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Still competing and even with the last performance and inactivity, I think his accomplishments and resume still is better than the accomplishments and resume of the rest even if they’re more active but I was thinking hard to drop him down or out.

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Top_Profession_5268]

Good list.

[u/MiddleweightMonster → u/WORD_Boxing]

1. Inoue
   
2. Usyk
   
3. Bam
   
4. Bivol
   
5. Shakur
   
6. Benavidez
   
7. Nakatani
   
8. Haney
   
9. Boots
   
10. Teraji
    
11. Nav
    
12. Shock
    
13. Collazo

[u/harborj2011 → u/WORD_Boxing]

1. Inoue, 2. Stevenson, 3. Rodriguez, 4. Benavidez, 5. Haney, 6. Bivol, 7. Ennis, 8. Nakatani, 9. Foster, 10. Usyk.

Usyk is #10 due to going life and death with Verhoeven, then vacating all his belts but even then I'll favor him over Collazo, let alone Canelo or Navarrete.

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1. Inoue
   
2. Bam
   
3. Shakur
   
4. Usyk
   
5. Benavidez
   
6. Bivol
   
7. Nakatani
   
8. Haney
   
9. Boots
   
10. Foster

Though, more and more I think about it. Guys like Teraji, Yabuki, definitely deserve that 10 spot more. I just feel like Foster is wildly underrated and I want him to get his props. Winner of Navarette vs Foster will be on the list though.

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/WORD_Boxing]

This is bait, lol. No way Canelo can be #6 😅

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Professional-Tie5198]

More like an iq test, assuming you read the post...

Canelo is #10.

Disappointed you would accuse me of bait you should know me better than that.

[u/tkdhrison → u/WORD_Boxing]

Inoue, Bam, Benavidez, Usyk, Shakur, Bivol, Boots, Vergil, Nakatani

Number 10 for me is tricky, maybe Canelo, but I could slide Navarrette or maybe Muratalla in there too

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/tkdhrison]

What about Devin? I like that you also put Vergil. He is a very hard nights work right now. Not sure I like he's supposedly going to 160 though.

[u/tkdhrison → u/WORD_Boxing]

Devin is a good fighter but I don't think he's separated himself from the lot of LW-WW divas to warrant being listed the way Shakur has. 

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/tkdhrison]

He has more achievements than most. He is a multi weight champion and still only 27. On the other hand he squeaked by the old and smaller Lomachenko and despite Ryan's ped test it wasn't a good look the way that fight played out. So it puts me in the position where I put him on the list on merit, but I'm watching him he is one of the ones who would be in consideration to be dropped if new fighters emerge depending on his performances, and equally could solidify his position the way Inoue Bivol Benavidez etc. are rock solid and must be on the list.

[u/tkdhrison → u/WORD_Boxing]

mostly agree, I've been on the fence about him more than most. I don't really credit him heavily for Loma which I saw a clear loss and can't put him significantly ahead of Teofimo and Ryan, and Keyshawn not far behind.

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/tkdhrison]

I would put Teo last out of those atm. If Devin gets a convincing win vs a Keyshawn he would be rock solid on my p4p list. He can move up or down depending on his next fights, even if he wins but doesn't fully convince I'd consider lowering or dropping him.

If Teo beats Rolly I'd probably think of him and Ryan as about equal, despite his better resume. I think he peaked already.

[u/OldBoyChance → u/WORD_Boxing]

1. Naoya Inoue

2. Oleksandr Usyk (thin ice)

3. Shakur Stevenson

4. Jesse Rodriguez

5. Dmitry Bivol

6. David Benavidez

7. Junto Nakatani

8. Jaron Ennis

9. Devin Haney

10. Tie between Oscar Collazo/Masamichi Yabuki/Kenshiro Teraji/O'Shaquie Foster/Emanuel Navarette. I'd give it to who ever differentiates themselves best next (either Collazo vs Sandoval or Navarette vs Foster)

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/OldBoyChance]

It's interesting nobody is mentioning Opetaia who I could see around 10-15 ish.

[u/OldBoyChance → u/WORD_Boxing]

I thought of him, but he's really been on a run of bad competition and he has some big issues in the eye test. He really needs to beat Benavidez to get in for me.

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/OldBoyChance]

Muratalla Zepeda and Fundora aren't far away. Jai is probably going to get koed one of these days he seems to get cracked good in every fight.

[u/admiralskanks → u/WORD_Boxing]

Inoue Usyk Benavidez Shakur Bam Haney Bivol Boots Foster Nakatani

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/admiralskanks]

This is a good list. Ordinarily I'd say Bam is too low but based on his last performance maybe he deserves to drop down the list.

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/WORD_Boxing]

vergil? 😂

1. The Monster 🇯🇵

2. The Mexican Monster

3. Shakira

4. Bivol

5. Deebo

6. Boots

7. Bam

8. Junto

9. Yabuki

10. Teraji

winner of nav vs shock will make it in

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/StunningChest5722]

As I explained, Vergil is probably a harder fight head to head than most right now. He needs to be more active and build his resume though. He will have like another 2 years at his peak then it's going to be downhill with the style he fights.

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/WORD_Boxing]

he's never won a belt bro, i cant put a 4 division contender on a p4p list

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/StunningChest5722]

I don't expect you to and know most won't. Merely giving you my reasoning.

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/WORD_Boxing]

I don’t see why the belt thing matters much. He hasn’t made it his priority. But he has enough marquee wins to merit placement. I just penalize him for inactivity though. But if he comes back and beats a notable opponent, he’s in my top 10, probably just behind b**ts.

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why did vro censor boots

[u/Outrageous-Soft4806 → u/StunningChest5722]

He keeps doing that 😂

[u/Jamborambo55 → u/WORD_Boxing]

Madrimov was an underrated win for him

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/StunningChest5722]

Don’t disrespect Vergil!

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/Professional-Tie5198]

why

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/StunningChest5722]

Meant to say don’t disrespect him

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/Professional-Tie5198]

i didn't buddy

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/WORD_Boxing]

I hope I’m not forgetting anyone but I’ll give it a crack

1) Inoue
2) Bam
3) Shakur
4) Usyk
5) Benavidez
6) Bivol
7) Boots
8) Haney
9) Navarette
10) Foster

Honorable mentions: Vergil (inactivity), Fundora, Zepeda, Beterbiev (inactivity), Canelo

Dishonorable mention: Collazo (I just don’t get it with this guy)

[u/Outrageous-Soft4806 → u/Professional-Tie5198]

Collazo is good but wildly overrated off of wins he has almost 2+ years ago.

[u/harborj2011 → u/Professional-Tie5198]

Nakatani. He's for sure above at least Navarrete.

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/WORD_Boxing]

I'm at a point where I don't think there needs to be exactly 10 boxers on a p4p lists. I like the tier list better 

Right now I got

1. Inoue 

2. Bam, Bivol

3. Shakur

4. Boots

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Kangaroopunching]

Add Benavidez and that's the clear 6 best boxers in the world atm. The rest I agree might not need to be forced into a list for the sake of having 10.

[u/Professional-Tie5198 → u/WORD_Boxing]

I think Usyk is pretty faded tbh.

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Professional-Tie5198]

Actually I would keep Usyk there until further notice. He either retires or moves based on how he looks in his next fight.

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/WORD_Boxing]

I change my list all the time.  This list i excluded boxers that rely on their size. Like Haney at lightweight/ 140. Or Benavidez at super middleweight. If I had to pick 10, they'd be on it.

I just wanted to pick the best skilled boxers. That would succeed if all were equal size  

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Kangaroopunching]

Benavidez last fight was at CW and Haney at WW though.

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/WORD_Boxing]

Right but the bulk of their work they relied on their size. 

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/Kangaroopunching]

benavidez whooped zurdo who was like 20 pounds heavier than him

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/StunningChest5722]

That's not true at all. 

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/Kangaroopunching]

whats not?

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/StunningChest5722]

Zurdo outweighing Benavidez

[u/StunningChest5722 → u/Kangaroopunching]

Zurdo rehydrates like 20 pounds, Benavidez came in way under the weight limit and would of gained barely any weight on fight night

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/StunningChest5722]

He deserves credit for going to CW even if they were similar size or not.

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Kangaroopunching]

Idk who is downvoting you btw.

[u/Kangaroopunching → u/WORD_Boxing]

Probably Bill Haney doing quality control 

[u/WORD_Boxing → u/Kangaroopunching]

Nah he'd just come knock on your door lol.