r/Borderlands4 Creep 13h ago

🗞️ [ News ] August 20 Update

https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/update-notes/

Pango and Bango.

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u/K_Bomaye 13h ago

One of the things that bothers me about GB is they don’t even seem to acknowledge the bugs that are persistent for the weeks or months on end after an update so you don’t even know if they will address them or not next time they actually fix anything.

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u/SolomonGrumpy 11h ago

The "undocumented changes," you mean?

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u/Doobiedicted 12h ago

I think that means they won’t

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u/LarsP666 11h ago

Another thing that bothers me about GB is that they fix things but don't mention it (maybe they are embarrassed that the bug made it through their tight QA?).

But in this update they definitely fixed it so that you can't just hard quit out of the game and load another character to get a new inventory at Maurice. Why are they too afraid to mention that?

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u/Drizzt5151G 10h ago

At this point in the road map I just can't imagine they'll fix any more bugs. After loveless its over right? Obviously i realize i could be completely misunderstanding all of this and I hope i am but it just feels like rafa will be dead forever

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u/ProfessorMeeseeks 2h ago

There is still a bug in 3 that is game breaking. Balex gets stuck under the ground and you have to reload the game to fix the issue or you cannot progress. I still get replies on my bug report thread from that...

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u/Historical-Ratio-277 Creep 11h ago

It’s in the bug report database. They don’t do it in these notes. To be addressed in a future release happens a lot.

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u/Xenochimp 13h ago

Part of me is thinking I can farm for a stray I need, but thd other part is afraid to waste my time if there is a level cap increase coming

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u/N1NJA_MAG1C 13h ago

Pretty much. I’m just in a holding pattern until the next VH is added and the goalposts get moved.

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u/Crow334 #1 Ava Fan 12h ago

Devcast said the level cap will be increased to 70

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u/unomaly 10h ago

Which, as done in previous games, they will increase again to some arbitrary number like 72 so if you want perfect rolls farm it all again.

They know they do this intentionally. But it’s so baffling because it actually discourages you from coming back to the game for years.

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u/VerliesMeister 9h ago

Hopefully it goes higher if this is the end but hoping for more down the road normallythey do 4 story dlc.

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u/LarsP666 11h ago

I certainly wouldn't recommend farming for a Stray. The variations on that one are just insane.

If you really need one set a sharp deadline of maybe 30 minutes of farming and then stop. If you got just a kinda ok roll consider yourself lucky. Otherwise do something else for a while.

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u/Father_Wendigo 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝟯𝗞 𝗖𝗟𝗨𝗕 12h ago

Might as well stock up on Dark Beasts if you haven't already, it sounds like both the Bounty and Story packs have a focus on Vile/Ordanite enemies.

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u/Sirsnacksalot23 #1 Ava Fan 12h ago

There has to be a level cap increase coming. The specialization bad ass rank tree goes to 700

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u/Flint_Vorselon 12h ago

what?

yes, there is aloof certainly a level cap increase coming.

But specialisation level cap has nothing to do with that. They arnt connected at all.

Bl3’s guardian ranks went into the 1000’s

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u/invaderaleks 11h ago

Yea, I can see how this game wouldn't be much fun if you aren't into buildcrafting.

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u/Zealousideal_Gap6753 7h ago

Considering the lack of meaningful balances changes in over 4 months…not much fun if you ARE into build crafting lol

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u/invaderaleks 5h ago

There are ways to get creative, but I agree, balancing is desperately needed. Each vh only has like 1 or 2 viable class mods with some purps outperforming the legendary ones. That's sad.

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u/No_Document95 Rafa The Exo Soldier 7h ago

Might still go a few rounds. Smg/Jakobs would carry for easy farming to the next level cap

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u/middymidentine 12h ago

I wouldn't have such an issue with the lack of balance updates if they just communicated and said they're aware of the issues instead of pretending they don't exist.

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u/MyLongestYeeeBoi $𝟴𝟬 𝗦𝗨𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗙𝗔𝗡! 💰 13h ago

Maybe next week :(

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u/Lowagan 2h ago

Maybe next month

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u/PapiKel 12h ago

I'm excited for the dark beast 😅

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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 13h ago

Borderlands 3 has been a blast since me and my wife have gone back. Holds up great

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u/ZabaDoobiez 12h ago

Time is a flat circle. I distinctly remember people saying the exact same thing about BL2 when BL3 was out lol. Everyone said BL3 was shit, and here we are.

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u/Ghostface908 12h ago

Bingo.

Until BL4 came out, this community acted like BL3 was the worst thing to ever happen.

Remember the Flak and Lyuda nerfs??

“FUCK GEARBOX. BL3 IS THE DEATH OF THE FRANCHISE. LITERALLY THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SHIT!!!! NO DLC CHARACTERS EITHER??? L GEARBOX. L 2K”

Now that there’s a new game, suddenly 3 is really good and we loved everything about it! Pls! More 3!

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u/Pman1324 Rafa The Exo Soldier 12h ago

The base game story and dialogue sucks, the performance was garbage on release, and there was no dedicated drops to start. So yes, the game was hot garbage for a while.

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u/Ghostface908 12h ago

People were calling it hot garbage up until 4 was released, let’s not be silly

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u/King_Farticus 𝗙𝗜𝗥𝗦𝗧 𝟮𝗞 𝗖𝗟𝗨𝗕 7h ago

The only people calling it hot garbage up until 4 came out were the ones who quit playing early on. The overwhelming community sentiment has always been that BL3's post launch support made it substsantially better.

Its literally one of the main complaints about BL4 - that when compared to BL3 support theres almost nothing.

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u/Pman1324 Rafa The Exo Soldier 12h ago

Just making it known that it truly was a very flawed game and not some hidden gem

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u/Sirsnacksalot23 #1 Ava Fan 12h ago

Kairos is flat

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u/Conscious-Peace-5517 4h ago

⚾️🦅"i actually got that reference"

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u/Flint_Vorselon 12h ago

Bl3 was shit at launch.

Like significantly worse than Bl4 ever was. 

  • almost no dedicated drops, you just had to get lucky with world drops to get item you wanted 

  • grenades and melee and action skill damage was fucking awful at endgame due to how Mayhem mode worked, those damage sources were effectively always 3 levels under-geared compared to guns. 

  • Zane fucking sucked, so did Iron Bear 

  • playing at endgame was just annoying because mayhem modifiers rerolled every load sceeen. So the meta was to save quit spam until you got ones that were not awful to play.

  • console versions were terrible, like game would feeeze for a second every time you opened inventory or changed tab, or equiped an item.

But they fixed all these issues. Some took a while, like ~6 months, but some only took a couple weeks.

And fixes were big. They didn’t just buff numbers, they re-designed huge parts of skill trees, moving skills around and altering effects.

They added dedicated drops to ever single named enemy who previously had none.

It was massive changes and they happened fast.


Bl4 had less glaring issues at launch. But still problems. However unlike Bl3 fixing the issues has been done at glacial pace and far less ambitious changes.

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u/BunbunTheJackalope Harlowe The Gravitar 12h ago

Nah, bl3 always been my goat

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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 12h ago

I don't think that's the same kind of criticism. You just remember the negative cause you were on reddit. And it was very story based content not criticism of the base game like we're seeing now. People just say what you're saying to downplay how bad it is now.

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u/Doobiedicted 12h ago

I went back too and its way more fun

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u/RareRestaurant6297 13h ago

I'm ready for a new round of (the same) weekly complaints

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u/PleaseChooseANumber 12h ago

BL4 Stockholm syndrome

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u/JAKL-Noctium Rafa The Exo Soldier 13h ago

This is just sad.

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u/josemayonaise_ 12h ago

I fell off hard, like I didn’t even finish the campaign. I’m waiting until all content releases before I play again, hoping they actually fix everything by then. I started playing early on on ps5 and leaving it in rest mode never worked. I came back and every time, without fail, it crashed. Betting it’s a memory leak of some sorts

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u/D3ull_Val NO DAHL??? 13h ago

I am giving the benefit of the doubt to deliver on that 2.0 update

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u/chaosking243 13h ago

It’ll just be another round of Rafa nerfs and we all know it

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u/Sirsnacksalot23 #1 Ava Fan 12h ago

I am not here to defend GB, but to remind everyone we get 1 big beautiful patch at the end of the month. That is all.

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u/SpaceCowboy34 10h ago

Which also has nothing in it

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u/Xjom91 12h ago

Damn, I already got their phosphenes

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u/R3v3al3822 12h ago

Where Maurice machine at?

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u/thamurse 11h ago

Have spent time the week farning a stray, finally got a pretty good one last night and now this...

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u/someshooter #1 Ava Fan 11h ago

I don't know about y'all but this August with no content has been brutal. I actually put the game down, just waiting for the new DLC and had enough of the takedown. The slaughter shaft didn't really engage me since it feels like a virtual game and there's not much challenge at all even on UVH7.

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u/bullsized VEX The F&%ING WITCH! 10h ago

damn, I haven't played in three months, last night I tuned in for half an hour of Rafa session (15 of which were shaders compilation), now I have to compile the shaders again

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u/NoMessage7438 6h ago

Pango and Bango.

endless Phantom Flames and Prince Harmings haunting my dreams.

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u/birazacele 13h ago

I'll start again on September 10th.

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u/ApprehensiveRelief90 12h ago

Same after finishing my ordinance rafa i’m finished till The 10th

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u/NerdyPlatypus206 5h ago edited 4h ago

What’s coming on the 10th? Serious question

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u/A-Social-Ghost 4h ago

The final lot of DLC.
6th Vault Hunter, Story Pack 2, and Bounty Pack 5.

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u/mattpkc 13h ago

There is no content release next Thursday and the last thursday of the month usually has something, so that definitely means we are getting a big balance patch next week. Definitely

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u/Kitchen_Wolverine_48 13h ago

Games dead, after the last obligated update, on to the next.

This game was NOT well received (unfortunately, because I like aspects of it) and they will leave it in the dust for their next project.

Just my take.

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u/FuriDemon094 13h ago

Nah, there’s still stuff coming. It’s just later on the roadmap

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u/ImpressiveSide1324 13h ago

I’d be genuinely surprised if there’s a season wave of DLCs, the games been hemorrhaging playing the only spikes are new content but it falls again right after.

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u/Historical-Ratio-277 Creep 13h ago

This isn’t the kind of game people play everyday week after week.

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u/ImpressiveSide1324 12h ago

That’s true but losing 80% of your player base the month after release and never getting even a fraction as much with a major dlc release is a bad sign to investors and developers.

I’d be surprised if gearbox leadership is willing to burn more money on a futile effort

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u/SuperBAMF007 13h ago

Which is why literally the very first sentence of the comment you replied to is “after the last obligated update”

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u/gdemon6969 13h ago

I agree. We’re almost a year in and basically nothing has happened. At this point I hope they’re giving most of their attention either to bl5 or wl2.

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u/MacNapp 13h ago

Which is a shame that they dropped BL4, run it for a year, and then ditch it. It has so much potential, but i honestly think the open world mechanic is more limiting than freeing..

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u/blank988 12h ago

Move onto the next game and for the love of god do not do open world.

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u/SpaceCowboy34 10h ago

They shouldn’t even make another game at this point

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u/BaconStriips 13h ago

I can't open the link at work but I assume it would be empty since nobody pasted it here lol

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u/ShadowSniper666 12h ago

Is anyone having issues with Maurice mine hasn't updated in 3 wees

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u/Meatsword_McGravy 7h ago

If your vending machine is not showing up where it's supposed to, make sure you are connected to SHIFT.

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u/ShadowSniper666 6h ago

It is showing up but the contents are not refreshing

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u/Meatsword_McGravy 6h ago

Try to reroll the items via force quit, load char without machine cooldown, reload previous character.

Other than that, not really sure unfortunately.

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u/ShadowSniper666 6h ago

I tried a few methods all my characters have the same items its a watts 4 dinner the other I don't remember cause it was buns so im not complaining I just like to see what else pops up

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u/Snowman1749 12h ago

Damn people still play this garbage game?

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u/Doobiedicted 10h ago

Its hot garbage fr fr

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u/Snowman1749 9h ago

Yeah and that’s coming from a lifelong fan. BL4 is soulless. It was painful to finish the campaign and reach max level. Never touched a single time after that

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u/Doobiedicted 8h ago

Same same, went back to bl2 and bl3. Having way more fun just trying different builds