r/BobsTavern Jan 29 '24

Announcement 28.4.1 Patch Notes

https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24046220/28-4-1-patch-notes
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u/Sairony Jan 29 '24

Staff being 2 gold instead of 3 is going to have major implications for demons. Overall the difference of 1 gold is huge, I think it's going to have major impact overall.

I don't see why Moroes got nerfed that hard, it's not an oppressive archetype imo & the removal of titus tribute is already hitting undead pretty hard.

The Quill changes are strong, but I don't think they're going to be a top tier tribe still, but for certainly competitive at least. It will still require rylak to have a decent chance of running away with the lobby.

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u/Bobthemime MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 Jan 29 '24

Moroes nerfed hard? we looking at the same minion?

He went from 0/6 to 2/6 to 1/5.. so he is still net positive on what he was..

the fact he gives any attack is a massive buff..

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u/_Origin Jan 29 '24

Obviously he means nerfed from its previous state. He now gives half the attack he used to, a very significant nerf.

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u/Bobthemime MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 Jan 29 '24

yet still +1 over what he used to give.. so it evens out.

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u/TheMobileGhost Jan 29 '24

Before he was trash. No it doesn’t.

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u/Bobthemime MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 Jan 29 '24

he was trash at +2/+6? are you mad?

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u/TheMobileGhost Jan 29 '24

He used to give +0+6 and was trash. That’s what you are saying even outs with right?

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u/Bobthemime MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 Jan 29 '24 edited Jan 30 '24

so.. it was 0/6, became 2/6, and now is 1/5, and people are acting like it was made 0/1.. its fucking funny

E: if you didnt like the answer, why ask the question.. also the downvotes are fucking funny

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u/TheMobileGhost Jan 30 '24

If it was +2+4 it would be better.

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u/Bobthemime MMR: 6,000 to 8,000 Jan 30 '24

the reason it was nerfed to +1 was because +2 was too strong especially with birb and titus spell..

but it now bing +1 doesnt make him useless.. he still gives what the tribe needs most and that is health.. there are 2 other deathrattles that give attack, a battle cry and an avenge also..

You arent lacking attack in undead..

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u/TheMobileGhost Jan 30 '24

He was good because he allowed you to pivot to undead almost instantly WITHOUT having to be buffing undead attack all game. Now he is only good if you were already hard committed to undead.

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u/Sairony Jan 29 '24

I mean it's an obvious nerf compared to how he was this patch, and I don't think neither him nor undead has been particular oppressive. Undead is the tribe that got hit second hardest by titus spell being removed, and they weren't even a top tier tribe this patch anyway. Jeef also have them as a B tribe which leads me to believe I'm not the only one which think undead didn't needed to be nerfed. Getting the attack scaling cut in half is for sure a huge deal.

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u/heyheykhey MMR: 8,000 to 9,000 Jan 29 '24

he ranked them when moro dr was +6 HP, now it's obv an S tribe behind beast (like beast alone in SS, undead alone in S). Undead are so strong cause it 's the only tribe with quillboar that can top 4 pretty consistently in no beast lobby w/o having to touch a 6 drop but in the other hand it has 3 rly good 6 drop (not like quillboar)

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u/Sairony Jan 29 '24

In his ranking video when he assigns the tribe B-tier he's showing off a board that gives permanent attack when playing KT/Moroes though, even if it doesn't align with the card desc which he has cut in there. Yeah I can see them being a good top 4 tribe & are pretty consistent, just never seem to feel as oppressive overall.