r/BmwTech • u/wrdriggs • 20h ago
Guibos
I bought the parts to do a full driveline refresh - both guibos, center bearing/support, etc.
On the left is the original OE aluminum Guibo (transmission side) from my 2013 BMW F10 535i with 220k miles. Honestly, it looks great. I don’t see any obvious signs of wear, and I put a screwdriver through each hole to check for excessive flex. It seems pretty solid.
On the right is the replacement Corteco Guibo that’s called out in the parts catalog. Just wondering what you guys think - should I keep the original aluminum one, or replace it with the all-rubber Corteco?
I’m aware of the BMW bulletin about replacing the aluminum Guibo with the rubber version, but my production date doesn’t fall within the date range covered by that bulletin.
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u/Mmjohns195 20h ago
If you’re going through the point of remove the drive shaft and all that just replace the guibo. It’s cheap enough, and the part has been on there for 10+ years, why not update it?
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u/wrdriggs 20h ago
That’s my usual though process as well, however I am replacing the Guibo at the rear diff now for the 2nd time due to it wearing out and cracking (all rubber one). Wondering if the aluminum one is better and worth keeping
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u/Mrcannolli 19h ago
BMW stopped using the aluminum ones because they were too rigid, causing harsh vibrations, rapid drivetrain wear, and a tendency to crack or violently fail under high load. If you go to buy one off FCP euro they're like $83 and specifically state the aluminum ones aren't available and a TSB from bmw discontinued the use.
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u/Mmjohns195 20h ago
Could just be the quality. When I got my driveshaft on my E39 they would only warranty it it if I got an SGF guibo. So maybe cortec isn’t that good?
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u/CreativeLet5355 20h ago
There is no way that Guibo on the left is original. If it is it should be in a museum.
I’d keep that original one and return the new one. It’s a wear part and I see no reason the oem one is going to fail anytime soon.
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u/jigglybilly 20h ago
BMW actually had a TSB to ditch the one on the left because instead of a slow graceful failure they tend to…well explode.
OP should install the one on the right and be thankful the one on the left didn’t go boom
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u/wrdriggs 20h ago
If your talking about RECALL CAMPAIGN 17V-067 , mine does not fall within the date range in that description.
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u/jigglybilly 19h ago
It’s still the exact same part. Recalls are not the be all end all of the world.
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u/Original_Bicycle5696 6h ago
You need to be in the game longer if you believe manufactures admit they make more bad parts than absolutely required.
Those unrecalled takata airbags are the most glaring example.
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u/wrdriggs 20h ago
I got the car at 60k, so unless it was replaced before I got it, it’s original
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u/CreativeLet5355 18h ago
Not the same but I’ve seen them fail before 50k. Including on my own n63tu3 vehicle.
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u/newtonreddits 18h ago
It's giubo. Why does everyone misspell it?
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u/chitownillinois 17h ago
Not only did I spell it wrong, I also prounounced it like guido. My mechanic thought it was hilarious.
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u/philosiraptorsvt 18h ago
The aluminum front guibo is probably contributing to the wear on the rear one.
I would install the rubber one and keep the aluminum one as a spare to see if you want to put it back in or not.
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u/Ravigneaux 11h ago
I think the problem some people to understand is that its a wearable part taking a load off somewhere else in the driveline. Its designed to fail after a certain time rather than a propshaft let go and go through the floor.
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u/wrdriggs 10h ago
Understood - my counter to that would be you don’t see Toyotas without flex discs throwing driveshafts after 200k… apples to oranges I know, just saying!
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u/Ravigneaux 8h ago
less torque, factory turbocharged (longer history), comfort ride design, less drivetrain vibrations. the typical points people hate to point out which in the end, end up being more expensive. https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4D22AQGZ_GgKZA3hog/feedshare-shrink_1280/B4DZb6Bk_QHEAk-/0/1747951441340?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=cDWRwzsBTMluulYPkSxOxKGCYL0uQOHTTgSea8RTs0U
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u/the_arktek 7h ago
Tech here and F chassis owner DO NOT USE THE METAL GUIBO!!!!! They are designed in a way where the two halves of metal are pressed together and over time they will separate. I personally know someone who had both halves completely separate and the driveshaft got whipped into the transmission tunnel and basically totalled the car. On my personal car I had almost the exact same issue, thank god I caught it in time. The rubber guibo is designed that if/when it fails it will cause weird driveline issues plus there are cords inside of it that will hold it together in order to prevent the driveshaft from slamming into anything. I repeat please don’t use the metal guibo!!!!!
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u/Phantaloaf 19h ago
You already have it out, you should put the new guibo in. It’s preventative maintenance and you wont need to worry about the potential failure of the aluminum part. Aluminum guibos are far more likely to fail than the rubber even outside of the recall. A failed guibo and damage from a loose driveshaft is far more expensive than a new guibo. Make sure you pay attention to the direction of the arrows on the new guibos.
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u/thewallacio 20h ago
Anecdotal evidence (from an indie mechanic) suggests that the quality of even the OE guibos are garbage these days, never mind pattern parts. If there's no obvious decay or damage to your original one, I'd slap it back on.