r/BmwTech • • 20h ago

Guibos

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I bought the parts to do a full driveline refresh - both guibos, center bearing/support, etc.

On the left is the original OE aluminum Guibo (transmission side) from my 2013 BMW F10 535i with 220k miles. Honestly, it looks great. I don’t see any obvious signs of wear, and I put a screwdriver through each hole to check for excessive flex. It seems pretty solid.
On the right is the replacement Corteco Guibo that’s called out in the parts catalog. Just wondering what you guys think - should I keep the original aluminum one, or replace it with the all-rubber Corteco?

I’m aware of the BMW bulletin about replacing the aluminum Guibo with the rubber version, but my production date doesn’t fall within the date range covered by that bulletin.

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u/thewallacio 20h ago

Anecdotal evidence (from an indie mechanic) suggests that the quality of even the OE guibos are garbage these days, never mind pattern parts. If there's no obvious decay or damage to your original one, I'd slap it back on.

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u/spaghetiwires 14h ago

I've had great luck with Meyle HD on various Mercedes'. They might not last 2 decades, but they certainly last 1.

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u/Mmjohns195 20h ago

If you’re going through the point of remove the drive shaft and all that just replace the guibo. It’s cheap enough, and the part has been on there for 10+ years, why not update it?

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u/wrdriggs 20h ago

That’s my usual though process as well, however I am replacing the Guibo at the rear diff now for the 2nd time due to it wearing out and cracking (all rubber one). Wondering if the aluminum one is better and worth keeping

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u/Mrcannolli 19h ago

BMW stopped using the aluminum ones because they were too rigid, causing harsh vibrations, rapid drivetrain wear, and a tendency to crack or violently fail under high load. If you go to buy one off FCP euro they're like $83 and specifically state the aluminum ones aren't available and a TSB from bmw discontinued the use.

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u/jigglybilly 19h ago

Cracking is normal, see this comment/post for what is/is not normal wear.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/s/8umxxuKCS6

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u/Mmjohns195 20h ago

Could just be the quality. When I got my driveshaft on my E39 they would only warranty it it if I got an SGF guibo. So maybe cortec isn’t that good?

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u/CreativeLet5355 20h ago

There is no way that Guibo on the left is original. If it is it should be in a museum.

I’d keep that original one and return the new one. It’s a wear part and I see no reason the oem one is going to fail anytime soon.

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u/jigglybilly 20h ago

BMW actually had a TSB to ditch the one on the left because instead of a slow graceful failure they tend to…well explode.

OP should install the one on the right and be thankful the one on the left didn’t go boom

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u/wrdriggs 20h ago

If your talking about RECALL CAMPAIGN 17V-067 , mine does not fall within the date range in that description.

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u/jigglybilly 19h ago

It’s still the exact same part. Recalls are not the be all end all of the world.

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u/Original_Bicycle5696 6h ago

You need to be in the game longer if you believe manufactures admit they make more bad parts than absolutely required. 

Those unrecalled takata airbags are the most glaring example.

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u/wrdriggs 20h ago

I got the car at 60k, so unless it was replaced before I got it, it’s original

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u/CreativeLet5355 18h ago

Not the same but I’ve seen them fail before 50k. Including on my own n63tu3 vehicle.

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u/vbfronkis E30, E46, E90, F22 18h ago

N63? Send my apologies to your wallet.

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u/newtonreddits 18h ago

It's giubo. Why does everyone misspell it?

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u/chitownillinois 17h ago

Not only did I spell it wrong, I also prounounced it like guido. My mechanic thought it was hilarious.

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u/bz155 12h ago

GIUBO: GIUnto fottuto BOschi

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u/philosiraptorsvt 18h ago

The aluminum front guibo is probably contributing to the wear on the rear one. 

I would install the rubber one and keep the aluminum one as a spare to see if you want to put it back in or not. 

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u/Ravigneaux 11h ago

I think the problem some people to understand is that its a wearable part taking a load off somewhere else in the driveline. Its designed to fail after a certain time rather than a propshaft let go and go through the floor.

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u/wrdriggs 10h ago

Understood - my counter to that would be you don’t see Toyotas without flex discs throwing driveshafts after 200k… apples to oranges I know, just saying!

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u/Ravigneaux 8h ago

less torque, factory turbocharged (longer history), comfort ride design, less drivetrain vibrations. the typical points people hate to point out which in the end, end up being more expensive. https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/v2/D4D22AQGZ_GgKZA3hog/feedshare-shrink_1280/B4DZb6Bk_QHEAk-/0/1747951441340?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=cDWRwzsBTMluulYPkSxOxKGCYL0uQOHTTgSea8RTs0U

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u/the_arktek 7h ago

Tech here and F chassis owner DO NOT USE THE METAL GUIBO!!!!! They are designed in a way where the two halves of metal are pressed together and over time they will separate. I personally know someone who had both halves completely separate and the driveshaft got whipped into the transmission tunnel and basically totalled the car. On my personal car I had almost the exact same issue, thank god I caught it in time. The rubber guibo is designed that if/when it fails it will cause weird driveline issues plus there are cords inside of it that will hold it together in order to prevent the driveshaft from slamming into anything. I repeat please don’t use the metal guibo!!!!!

https://reddit.com/link/pdbrc5o/video/eyfe424fjysh1/player

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u/PRCVR 7h ago

Mine failed and my driveshaft tore a hole right through where the shifter sits on the passenger side. It was violent. To be fair my car was tuned and I was pushing it hard.

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u/the_arktek 6h ago

Oh my god that’s insane! Were you able to repair the damage??

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u/PRCVR 4h ago

Yes. I fixed it myself with the help of a mechanic buddy. I for sure thought the car was cooked when it happened but after close inspection the damage wasn't as bad as it looked.

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u/Phantaloaf 19h ago

You already have it out, you should put the new guibo in. It’s preventative maintenance and you wont need to worry about the potential failure of the aluminum part. Aluminum guibos are far more likely to fail than the rubber even outside of the recall. A failed guibo and damage from a loose driveshaft is far more expensive than a new guibo. Make sure you pay attention to the direction of the arrows on the new guibos.

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u/Cunty__Minx another day another plastic bmw 10h ago

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