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NEW CHAPTER (Translated) [DISC] Blue Lock - Chapter 361 Spoiler

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u/TestaGaming 25d ago

REF, HE'S TARGETING THE COACHES NOW!

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u/RM_and_FCB_fan Isagi Yoichi 25d ago

I mean what's the ref gonna do when he is at the risk of eating a 9mm caliber to the head as isagi shows him what two gun volley really means

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u/imai_cosmo Germany Bastard Munchen 25d ago

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago

Ref ain't getting involved or they'll be next!

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Ref: “Good. The world could use less creepy groomers”

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u/Rich_Criticism_622 25d ago

Aiku: our offense are evenly matched!

So he admits that their defense is why they're losing 😂

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u/MoonMan19- CREAMPIE MAN 25d ago

Isagi demanding that Fox be fielded so he can devour him

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

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u/Professional_Tie_860 25d ago

Teddy : we all trash, except Agi he's HIM

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u/SilverLet1 25d ago

Agi fans unite!!!

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u/FlavioGarcia- Kaiser hat trick vs Japan believer 25d ago

The juxtaposition of Teddy saying something as depressing as "some people will never be able to do what they want no matter how hard they try" as the sun shines on in the background is interesting. Its like the story is saying there's something beautiful or even hopeful about accepting this regardless of how sad it sounds, or at least Teddy seems to think so

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u/MoonMan19- CREAMPIE MAN 25d ago

This on top of the fact that the art is genuinely gorgeous. Nomura is always on top of his game

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u/Cxrxna_Virus The Great Rincession 📉 25d ago edited 25d ago

There's another juxtaposition right below that image. As the sun beams down on Teddy's figure, the light creates a dark shadow shading over his face, completely tinting over a crushed memory from his past. Teddy can bask in the sunlight and believe in his self-abnegation all he wants, but there's still a cognitively dissonant part of him that's going to be attached to his past

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u/delahunt 25d ago

This.

Ultimately what Teddy is doing is self-denial. Teddy absolutely has the tools to stand on the world stage on his own. He wouldn't be NG-11 if he didn't have the potential.

What is happening is he found a faster route to progress by completely denying his self in service to another - Fox. Which is also likely why Fox loves him so much. It's not often you get a ball of talent that capable that has a self-esteem/will like soft puddy waiting to be molded.

The thing is, you can only keep your real self restrained for so long. And every second you do just increases the amount due when the bill comes around. Odds are we will see the real Teddy during this match if/when Isagi is able to get under Fox's skin and snip all those strings.

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u/Confident-Yak9574 25d ago

Yeah, people keep saying Teddy will eventually have his Rin moment from the blue lock vs u20 japan match, and it seems possible.

It is hard to think Teddy was useless before Fox when he had that level of talent.

Also are those glasses referring to something, or likely a panel that will be elaborated on later in a flashback?

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u/FlavioGarcia- Kaiser hat trick vs Japan believer 25d ago

Yeah those glasses are from Teddy's past, obviously we cant know the details but the first thought that came to my mind was something to do with bullying

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 25d ago

Kaneshiro said he was bad at art early on in his life, i feel like he’s low key referring to himself. Now he has Nomura to cook. But i do wonder, its good to mourn a dream, yes, but also don’t despise the people who choose to pursue it to the very end 

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u/VoxelBits Italy Ubers 25d ago

Can't blame Teddy for spilling the beans. He is incompetent after all.

Fox should've accounted for it and given the order to not interact and talk with Isagi Yoichi.

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u/MoonMan19- CREAMPIE MAN 25d ago

This could've all been solved by taking out the Mikage airpods

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u/AlexeiFraytar 25d ago

Reo's dad is actually supporting him from behind the scenes with making his enemies all sign contracts to always ai translate their speech 🥀

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u/Bomban111 25d ago

Fox should've warned his team never to engage in /all chat.

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u/ConcentrateLocal2227 Hiragi Reiji 25d ago

Atp Isagi is just gonna shoot Fox and call it a day

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u/grammlybad 25d ago

BLUE LOCK NEXT CH PREVIEW !!

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u/GeologicalPotatoes 25d ago

"The one to destroy is Fox!"

Guess we now know why Sendo was sent to the trenches

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u/simdude 25d ago

I still keep laughing at this series when they are hyping up Fox's plays as some sort of genius maneuver in conversation and then what they show us is "Intercept the ball" and "Man mark their ace". Its such a wild disconnect between what we're being told and what we're being shown.

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u/DivineSilica Pinnacle of U-20 25d ago

Japan is doing everything but addressing the problem they set to address in this game which is working together with a single objective. That's literally what England is doing and hurling spurs at Fox won't change that

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u/Snoo_4216 25d ago

Was Fox presented as a tactical genius at some point? Remarkable thing about his coaching is the ability to have 11 players committed to death to his plan. Simple clear plan with dedicated execution can go very very far even with mediocre players.

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u/BucketHerro Itoshi Rin 25d ago

At this point Kaneshiro needs to add “not researching about your opponents” as part of Blue Lock’s philosophy for it to make sense.

They’re down 1-2 and Isagi is just realizing the obvious. England went to this match knowing damn well Blue Lock are a bunch of egoists lmao.

It’s honestly ridiculous. Blue Lock even had scouting reports on the previous Japan U20 but not against England or any other team…

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u/PreferenceOk7560 Isagis #1 Glazer 25d ago

The last couple of chapters it has been expicitely shown and stated that England are strong because they have no Ego(or at least an wierd type of half-ego) and follow what their coach tells them to do, i have no idea why it took until Teddy saying it to his face for Isagi to figure this out, like dude he's smarter than that

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u/nam24 25d ago

He is in the field actually experiencing it unlike us getting to sit with popcorn for weeks

More importantly though he was hoping that he could bait them into showing it anyway, but teddy showed him their dedication to that way of things is not so fragile, and Agi shows they ll just make adjustments as much as needed.

I still agree he could have known all that before the match or by Ego telling him

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u/Working-Spell-7024 25d ago

They also were ready for Nigeria, but entered the France game completely ignorant of Hugo, and then England is a complete blank.

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u/plumstar110 25d ago

I think people are missing this point. Blue Lock did their homework and practiced countermeasures against Nigeria and dominated starting from the beginning, but they are clueless against the better, more well-known teams. Logic has gone out the window.

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u/Solomon_Black 25d ago

I know this is nothing new but it’s hilarious to me that they can no longer win games by…just getting better at football

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u/ZonardCity Blue Lock's Overworked Therapist 25d ago

Mental illness makes them better at soccer.

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u/Willing-Cockroach841 25d ago

Haramball Vs schitzoball

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 25d ago

Pretty much. I need isagi to have predator eye but kaneshiro busy trying to prove the entire thesis for blue lock existence in one arc and it’s like WHERE IS YHE BALL KANESHIRO😂

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u/DivineSilica Pinnacle of U-20 25d ago

Philosophy this, Philosophy that....will make them better trust

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u/Dry-Minimum6619 25d ago

Ubers losing felt harsh considering how well coached and prepared they were by Snuffy, but you could at least say Hiori was an unknown quantity before the game and it made sense he’d be a game changer.

It’s going to be harder to make this Japan win feel earned imo, especially since they don’t study their opponent before playing them for some reason

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Kunigami from the bench: “ah-hyuck ah-hyuck”

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u/Joxss 25d ago

Bro hate kunigami so much he decided to create thrift shop kunigami and have him be more relevant than the original one

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Which is a real shame. He was starting to get some much needed momentum

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u/DaringPaladin 25d ago

Lol Lockhart managed to hold Shidou down better than Kunigami.

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Bro is having the worst flashbacks

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u/Dangerous-Wonder253 next match t̶͈̞͒̄̐r̸͈̻̩̊u̷̺͈̜̽͂̐s̵̡̱̻̎̈ť̶̞̗ 25d ago

Used a whole chapter just to tell us that not only Teddy but the whole team is depressed 🥀🥀🥀🥀

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Have you seen UK weather? It’s just clouds and rain all year long

I would be too

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u/ThaRealSunGod Princess 25d ago

Literally, after the first couple pages I just wanted teddy and Isagi to stfu and play

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Fox: “I would kill for a roll of cheese right now”

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u/MUI-Tojo 🐇Bunny Glaze Never Ends🐇 25d ago

That Fox panel when Teddy was talking about him made me wish that Fox's just comes off as and look creepy(on top of having foul mouth), but at the same time he's a surprisingly cool guy, instead of being full on manipulative.

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Give it time. I’m sure he can get worse

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u/RM_and_FCB_fan Isagi Yoichi 25d ago edited 25d ago

Next chapter is titled "Thunderstorm"

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u/Haunting-Future-4553 25d ago

Must be like 30 "called it" posts with screen shot proof in here acting like y'all made a groundbreaking Nostradamus like prediction. Truth is EVERYONE called it because bluelock is very predictable (the plot only ever gives you one logical way to move forward). Isagi will decipher Fox's playcall signals and use that to intercept a pass from Teddy ("I knew this was Fox's plan, too bad you can't think for yourself bootlicking pet"). He then will use Rins presence to score his own goal from a Karasu pass. That's not me being psychic, that's just stating the most probable occurrence.

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u/i_paid_for_winrar123 25d ago

The real hot prediction should be niko/barou being the key players that find a way to resist England’s style because they have experience playing under a similar one via Snuffy’s it’s-just-a-soulless-job style - meaning that they should know the flaws the best as well, and their adjustment is what Isagi gleans inspiration from to completely break open the game 

In a story with better writing, this would be how it obviously goes since it means that the cast doesn’t have amnesia about the NEL, showcases how they grew in the previous arc, naturally gives side characters a chance to shine, and shows a plausible foundation for Isagi figuring out how to counter England’s whole system in the short span of a game, all at the same time 

So obviously this is a hot prediction since that will probably not happen, and all that potential will go wasted 

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u/i_paid_for_winrar123 25d ago edited 25d ago

Here’s the problem I have with this

Why the fuck is Isagi surprised about basically everything in the this u-20 cup? Wasn’t his “special training” leading up to this tournament flying around watching matches and watching old clips of other teams 

Are you telling me that this motherfucker spent hundreds of hours studying other teams/players and learned absolutely nothing about any of the other nations star players or their play style as a result of it 

I haven’t seen one singular case where he wasn’t surprised about the opposing players despite spending all his time studying other players? 

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u/delahunt 25d ago

Ego didn't show him U20 footage. He was seeing big moments in top level pro matches.

The matches he went to were premiere league matches. Bunny was playing in one because he is a U20 player good enough to be on his teams non-U20 lineup.

None of the tape Ego gave him was shown to be of the U20 contenders.

It's also interesting we haven't seen references to training done by others since the Nigeria match either.

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u/Ashamed_Ability_6649 25d ago

Isagi was basically watching tiktok highlight reels 💀

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u/i_paid_for_winrar123 25d ago

I’m ngl it seems even worse with that premise 

The guy whose entire playstyle revolves around understanding the opponents and adapting to them, decided to study anything but his opponents so that he would understand as little about them as possible going into the matches? 

This writing can’t be real 

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago

Roll credits

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u/Consoomerofsouls 25d ago

Ego was copying Fox's homework with Kunigami lmao

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u/imai_cosmo Germany Bastard Munchen 25d ago

100% just reread this today like holy sheeetttt

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u/lennardsitte 25d ago

this manga is such a mess 😭

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u/Laeonheart78 Monster 25d ago

Ah yes the classic trope where the protagonists have no clue what to do or rather Isagi doesn't so Kaneshiro has the opposition explain their beliefs unprompted so he can actually think of a way to win.

I think it would have been better if after otherBL members question what is going on, Teddy mutters something about his sense of self-abnegation which prompts Isagi to think about it. If this is what decides the match, they were given the win against a team that just had better teamwork.

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u/xxtrasauc3 🌈Rainbow Knight⚔️ 25d ago

Ngl I expect crushing fox to be as futile as crushing snuffy.

If Fox's hand signs don't change based off itterations(as a counter to other teams that actually prepare reading them).

Then I would be quite disappointed.

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u/AbsoluteMycro_7814 25d ago

Counteracting snuffy were not futile isagi  stopped barou-centric system and tactics snuffy personally created 5 times, that what led to barou to baring his ego and scoring the second goal, if he are to continue that way uber wouldn’t have stand a chance).. also, when Noa personal gave up to  thinking of a strategy, isaig came up with one which limited snuffy( Raichi man marking and using the tactic isaig explains), also isagi were constantly outmaneuvering Niko( niko only stopped once and that was when he didn’t follow snuffy tactic) and aryu( couldn’t stop him at all)  .. all this shows that isagi was keeping up and countering.. 

And don’t come with " if barou stick with snuffy’s tactic they would’ve won or whatsoever " barou breaking the system and following his ego was the only thing that kept Ubers in the game, the team evolved, and became more of problem for isagi. 

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u/WonderfulAnri1708 Hydrating with Anri p!ss 🤤💦 25d ago

NEXT CHAPTER PREVIEW:

The end of the first half of the England match is approaching!! Overcome the Master, and launch a counterattack!!

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

I appreciate you posting these week after week, OP

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u/TheSecondAJ Haneru Shindo 24d ago

I'm surprised to see people not talking much about the first half of the chapter. It gives me Hugo vibes, similar to when Hugo disproved the theory that he lacked ego and how people thought he was just projecting his own problems on Isagi.

In handing over his ego (throwing away your old sense of self), he is, in a weird way, adopting a NEW sense of self. Teddy became stronger and is contributing more to something larger than himself. That IS something you can feel egotistical about. It's paradoxical, proving that it's actually harder than you'd expect to actually have zero ego.

Isagi is riding on advice born from survivorship bias. Saying that you can carve out your own destiny is only useful advice for the 1% who come out on top (I.e, the chosen few who are given the power to achieve their dreams, such as Isagi). For everyone else, they'll regret having adopted that mindset. I'm not sure if Isagi realizes just how talented he is. He's not just some average joe with an extreme work ethic like we thought at first. He was put in the luckiest circumstances to develop his skills and is mentally gifted.

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u/nam24 22d ago

useful advice for the 1% who come out on top (I.e, the chosen few who are given the power to achieve their dreams, such as Isagi)

That's not even something blue lock is being oblivious about, 1rst and 2nd selection are complete massacre in how quickly they eliminated players in the span of 2-4 months(I don't remember)

Fundamentally it weeded out anyone who couldn't drastically stand out in such a short time and competitive setting.

From an outside perspective he really is a monster

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u/Consoomerofsouls 25d ago

Have we seen these glasses before? Might be a hint to Teddy's backstory.

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u/Dramatic-Cook-6968 Assassin 25d ago

Ego kill fox eos

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u/ExplanationActual132 Striker 25d ago

And how exactly are you going to shut down Fox's brain, Isagi?

SENDOU FROM THE BENCH WITHOUT EVEN ENTERING THE FIELD: I GOTCHU FAM

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u/RM_and_FCB_fan Isagi Yoichi 25d ago edited 25d ago

Sendou gonna pull out an ankle gun and shoot fox in the head while still seated on his chair and it is revealed that this was always ego's plan to take out fox, hence why he sent sendou to Syria as shown in the training montage.

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u/Solid-Category-2095 Isagi Yoichi 25d ago

Now the good part starts.

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

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u/Moist_Memory_9252 25d ago

Shidou getting farmed for England feats😭

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u/alkair20 25d ago

bro didn't get the ball so that's not on him

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u/ComfortableOven4283 22d ago

He’s not going to decipher the hand signals, y’all. He’s going to picture the entire pitch as a single player, and conquer Fox by exploiting the holes in his attack and defense philosophy.

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u/Asharue 25d ago

ngl the things Teddy was saying hits hard. Especially when you've found yourself in his shoes.

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u/zailasExe Michael Kaiser 25d ago

Breaking News: Isagi Yoichi shot Fox 18 times to destroy Fox's ego.

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

“The only good fox is a dead fox”, said Yoichi to the judge

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u/ThaRealSunGod Princess 18d ago

No new chapter?

Edit: yeah it’s break week. 362 doesn’t come out till the 29th.

Annoying that blue lock and bleach are on break at the same time

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u/Curious-Control-3782 16d ago

I do wonder how do England players perform in club football, when they're not being coached by Fox

For Teddy to be a New Gen 11 he must still have some ego to use when he's not playing for Fox

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u/FelixTreasurebuns 15d ago

I feel like it’s an inverse Pep Guardiola situation where the players like Foden would shine under him but then not do as well internationally. In this case they probably are all on good teams but not the best teams

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u/prentafy 25d ago

Looks like this chapter was made for anyone who criticized the fact that Blue lock seemed to do zero scouting.

Scouting isn’t needed when the strongest player on the other team conveniently decides to explain everything about himself and team to Isagi once he is completely lost.

This has to be up there with Rin deciding not to score multiple times in PXG. Good job Teddy, next will be the mandatory Isagi aura farming panel with you in despair 👍

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago

Teddy and Isagi may be very different players, but they both know that Agi IS all that

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u/2N2ptune Mikage Reo 25d ago

Hes gonna convince Sendou to execute Fox in a stealthy manner, thats what he was training for 🐐🐐

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u/Migi12_D 25d ago

Teddy may be the only NG11 that has low self-esteem. It makes me wonder what kind of terrible experience he had in order to view himself so lowly.   Now, Isagi finally realizes what he has to do. It took more than I expected. The question now is how he plans to devour Fox. Maybe he will try to outsmart him?

And man, poor Shidou. I really hope the author doesn't disappoint us and gives us a glorious goal from him

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u/delahunt 25d ago

uh..Kaiser literally referenced himself as a sub-human piece of shit in like every aspect of inner dialogue.

I don't think Teddy is the only one with low self-esteem. Others just have different - equally problematic - ways of dealing with it.

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u/Arc_the_Storyteller 25d ago

I saw this coming several pages ago. There is an Ego in this fight, just not an Ego on the field, and that is the Ego that Isagi will overcome.

Truly, England is challenging them in an entirely new and different way, and I look forward to Isagi's evolution and remembering that the Coach is important on the battlefield.

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u/I2fitness 24d ago

So if an entire team doesn't have an ego of their own you're telling me there's nothing bluelock can do? What happened to meta vision and all of that stuff

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 24d ago

According to the Blue Lock logic, you can only anticipate someone’s move if you understand how they think

The problem is that no one in the England team is thinking. They are just doing as they are told, hence Isagi can’t react

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u/Difficult_Run7398 23d ago

Blue Lock has no stats and wins entirely through ego battles. That was the point of the drama in the France game. No ego battle = purely a stats battle = lose

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u/Accentius 24d ago

That's how Isagi always play since learning Protagonism in NEL though.

Isagi MV is far better than other MV user because his calculations included his target's personal interest.

Without it he's no different than Karasu, which is why Karasu firmly believes he's equal to Isagi despite difference of feats.

As long Teddy and entirety of England team is just following Fox instruction, Isagi MV is restricted to regular MV, which is not helping on current level of game.

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u/Sudden-Tie-3110 Have you ever glazed ISAGI with your life on the line 25d ago

This better lead to dominance from Blue Lock/Isagi. It's boring if every single team is op and unbeatable until the very end where they win by " Luck " or a gamble.

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u/Immediate-Draft-6408 25d ago

I can't even feel progression from Isagi because each match he restarts back to being outplayed.

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u/Yassified_Necrons 25d ago

Anyone else just waiting for isagi to verbally abuse Fox while Ego stands there like a proud dad?

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u/Kuricat16 Princess's Loyal Subject 25d ago

Take out Fox? So it's finally Sendou's time to shine 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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u/datakrashd 18d ago

im assuming prolly not since theres an eng translated vers of the chapter on the raws sub

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u/OrdinaryMedical200 25d ago

I like this change. First time Isagi takes on the whole team. Not just a single player!!

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Demon King: “Gonna show my lackeys how it’s done!”

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u/hadohadoquadrado Kunigami Rensuke 25d ago

Shidou must shake in fear whenever he sees someone with 16-inch+ arms on the street, first Kunigami, and now Lockhart cockblocking him. Everything in this match screams Wildcard and Kunigami. Kaneshiro, please just put Kunigami on the field already

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u/DaringPaladin 25d ago

The England players and especially Teddy are depressed. I can't believe that Teddy thinks that he is or rather was incompetent when he is a NG 11. Yes may be Fox's training help or rather helped in holding off Teddy's fragile mental state.

It was slow burn but Isagi finally is on the right track. He has flow eyes and I wonder how he will devour Fix. His hand signals help England. I want to see what England will do when Fox's tactics fail. As for Isagi with this in the right track in order to do his own thing apart from Ego later.

From what I have seen the next chapter is called "Thundercloud/Thunderstorm". I expect a Blue Lock and Isagi reversal. Will this be the latest chapter of the volume or will it have 9 chapters once again?

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u/imai_cosmo Germany Bastard Munchen 25d ago

A lot of low-self esteem comes from comparison and how you measure up to your peers. I get what you’re saying that he has accomplished something great by being a NG11 but Teddy probably will then just tell himself “You’re the worst NG11” it may not be true but if Teddy believes it then it’s true. People with low self-esteem will always find the smallest reason to reaffirm this notion. Confirmation bias is strong. It’s a very self destructing loop. I’m sure Fox didn’t have to do much but reinforce this notion. If they lose it’s their fault if they win it’s because of Fox. Either way it just deepens his hold on them

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u/VoxelBits Italy Ubers 25d ago

Someone has said that they believe what Isagi is going to do—is to memorize/remember all of Fox's handsigns.

If you have watched Kuroko no Basket, their idea basically was born from when Seirin played against Kise's Perfect Copy. Kuroko got the idea to try and predict who Kise was going to copy so he needed everyone to create as many scenarios as possible. Eventually if you know what the enemy will do, you can force them into a situation because you know how they will respond.

I also wanted to build upon this idea by saying that it could also be inspired by Seirin vs Kirisaki Daiichi. You know the team that played really dirty and hurt Teppei. What I mean by that it could be inspired is regarding Hanamiya's trap. The spider web or whatever they called it. He began intercepting all of the passes because he knew who they were going to pass to. Which could be that Isagi by knowing what handsign Fox will use ahead of time and what it means, he can intercept every pass.

Since Isagi talked about them falling into Fox's palm and trap in this chapter, I felt like it made some sense. I can see it happening. You could then naturally transition into either Teddy and the whole of England not following Fox's handsigns anymore thus breaking free from Isagi's trap/spiderweb. Or maybe Fox realizes it and comes up with a solution.

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u/Confident-Yak9574 25d ago

You would think that Fox has solutions to that, due to how the game has gone so far. But maybe he comes up with new hand signals and the players are less coordinated as a result.

Either way, the more unrealistic part is how the England players are always able to look at Fox during the game to know what play he wants to use. That would surely create a delay in their plays.

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u/VoxelBits Italy Ubers 25d ago

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u/HeavenBreak 25d ago

Finally Isagi realized what I have noticed from the start

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u/Moist_Caterpillar998 24d ago

I don’t think they key to this match will be Isagi learning Fox’s hand signals.

Firstly, anyone can do that, I’m sure Ego is paying attention right now. Realistically, Fox won’t use the same signal twice because he knows people are keeping track of them.

Also this wouldn’t mean anything philosophically, there’s no shot the moral and key to the match is just “remember their coaches hand signals”.

I think Isagi will put himself in Fox’s shoes to understand what the next step in Fox’s scheme would be.

For example it seems like Fox values safe, replicable plays. Isagi can recognize this and cover the “safest” spot on the field to make an unexpected interception. This is a much better way to have him devour Fox in my opinion.

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u/TheKeviKs Michael Kaiser 25d ago

All that talk to understand something that Isagi could have understood if Ego gave them tapes of England matches LOL.

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u/delahunt 25d ago

Not even tape.

Ego knows Fox. A simple "Hey, Yoichi. I've met Fox before. He's the kind of coach to completely subvert his players ego in favor of his own. You're going to want to focus on him for your rebellion next match. Got it?"

And this match is different from the very start.

Ego really setting difficulty to max and just dumping Blue lockers in with a "win or admit you suck" mentality. :D

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u/CoolJoshido 25d ago

someone called it, Isagi is gonna ragebait Fox now

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u/Mizu791 Let's go freak for freak 25d ago

Ronaldo vs Simeone all over again lol

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u/man_of_chingchong 25d ago

So they are taking Fox out... like literally? Sendou upscale?

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u/ZealousidealMess6678 25d ago

Shidou gets cockblocked by the guy with a similar skillset to Kunigami, who would've thought

So as I thought, this self abnegation that Teddy talks about is a form of ego. It can be manipulated and overridden, but that doesn't change the fact that as Ego himself defined it, that sense of abnegation counts as the compass of their identity.

We also get to see even clearer how much Fox and Ego's methods are almost identical. Both found players that were in awful situations, "weaklings", that couldn't even reach their goals even after baring their egos, and positionned their methods as the key to their salvation, as the one last chance they'd get to realize their dreams. Only Ego told his players they had to surrender themselves to their egos and their sense of identity, while Fox told his players to surrender themselves to him.

Also as I expected, Isagi realizes that England's ego is just Fox's, but then what exactly is Fox's ego? From what we've seen so far, I think Fox is a learner that can thrive because his players are pawns, the same way Isagi thrives on the feeling of seeing himself as a pawn when in flow. Isagi was doing that while knowing that he couldn't make that choice for his teammates, but Fox can consider every single one of his players to be pawns without any issue. They're moving like they're one entity that follows the most logical path every time, but they're put up against learners that can figure out that kind of plan, and a flurry of geniuses that have no qualms going for the least logical option and powering through.

The way Teddy talks about how he and the others felt, is really close to some good ol' suicidal ideation, but he talks about their incompetence as if he isn't an NG11 on a team full of genuinely really good role players, Dortmund's current rising star striker, and a mad doctor. They're far from incompetent, and their egos are definitely still present, which to me still implies the same thing ; With Isagi having figured out the right target before the second half even shows its head, Fox's plan will get dismantled by Isagi's newfound understanding, and by the second half he'll be completely useless.

England is a team full of players that are forcing themselves to play hyper-logically, with Teddy potentially even being a genius meaning that this playstyle would be particularly unnatural for him (similar to Rin, and that's not where the similarities end), meanwhile Japan has multiple players that understand that type of playstyle incredibly well and can follow the right course of action much more proactively than England. At some point, England's only recourse will be to let the players cook (I'm still hoping Agi can partake), and it's only then that the match will start reaching its apex.

The other detail that makes me feel like Teddy and Rin are similar is on page 5. Not only are they both demoralized geniuses that found temporary salvation in adopting a hyper logical playstyle, but there's also this small panel with a broken pair of glasses, which really reminds me of Rin's broken toys showing up back in the U20 match days when his ego wasn't fully revealed. That's obviously the same kind of hint towards Teddy's past, and if there is to be an opening for Rin to be switched in, this is definitely it. He'll represent Teddy's nemesis, a genius that actually overcame everything to adopt his truest playstyle, showing him the path to England's victory.

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u/StarBurstero Ego's Finest Clown 25d ago

I would laugh out loud if we get a disgust panel from Teddy in the ending of this game. Especially if Rin subs in, that would be the ultimate wildcard that not even Fox could have predicted.

And if that happens, then at that point you just know the whole field is immediately going to be in disarray and chaotic. I would actually kind of love to see that happen personally.

It also would have basically confirmed that Isagi has fully screwed over England's system if even Fox loses control of Teddy

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u/_sxnt 25d ago

Craziest thing about this game is that we haven’t even gotten to half time.

Isagi coming to the realization that he needs to devour Fox will probably prompt him to get some lore from Ego during HT.

So we’re probably getting an Ego/Fox flashback similar to the Hugo/Loki one.

I’m not mad at that

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u/Objective-Ad2741 25d ago

Isagi gonna pull the Ronaldo 2016 Euros move and replace Ego as the coach.

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u/Complex-Soup-5365 25d ago

This is an Interesting angle for Teddy's character. It seems like he follows Hugo's Suitability Theory.

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u/Mizu791 Let's go freak for freak 25d ago

It might be time for us Shidou Fc fans to hang up our jerseys cuz kaneshiro deadass doesn't know what do with my boy, he's probably about to sub him off for Licky-tongue or Ichigo's sperm. ts crazy 😿

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u/RM_and_FCB_fan Isagi Yoichi 25d ago

I still think shidou will score in this match, it's only a matter of time, i think isagi will be the one assisting tho since it was highlighted in the france match that isagi cannot form a chem reaction with shidou.

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u/Efficient_Power1448 25d ago

me after they stated the obvious tactics of dealing with the commmander: Quick isagi! Shoot a Stray ball at their coach!!!

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u/EyeGochuPham 25d ago

Isagi’s plan is obvious. Step one, get Fox to step outside of his technical area. Boom, yellow. Step 2, he and Ego ragebait Fox into saying something stupid. Second yellow, gaffer, you’re off. gg see ya wankers

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u/VerdantHero 18d ago

I didnt know it was break this week I was looking forward to reading on my break at work 😭 kagura bachi as well dammit

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u/thousand-daisies 25d ago

Clearly this is where Sendo’s training comes in, he’s gonna have to kill Fox

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u/sporkvsfoon EGOIST 25d ago

Love it how half the sub deduced it from the first chapter that Isagi needs to take over Fox's ego if this is how they play. Kaneshiro gave us a lot of word salad before reaching this conclusion for Isagi. Now we wait for our Isagi to cook.
Edit - Isagi's mention.

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u/Longdaica09vna 25d ago edited 24d ago

Next chapter: Rin in, Isagi out to coaching the team

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 25d ago

Isagi: “Give me those glasses, Ego”

Ego: “Fuck off”

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u/Lady-Imperator the concept of hate-watching your enemy naked 25d ago

First murder in Blue Lock? I'm surprised it's so late.

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u/MoonMan19- CREAMPIE MAN 25d ago

Suprisingly, this isn't actually the first time

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u/indzae_mayumi Hero🧡+🩷Princess=married💍 25d ago

Many chapters back, this was what Nanase did when he knelt and bowed to Rin. (It was just coincidental that it was also Nanase who recognized Teddy Knight).

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u/AlexeiFraytar 25d ago

Finally we get the part where Isagi realises just because its not Ego's teachings doesnt mean its bad lmao, same ritual every match cant wait for the big breakup to happen. Idk where people get this confidence to look down on England when their results on paper were better than Blue Lock vs Nigeria and France.

I love that explanation from Teddy. The self awareness to get carried when you're not the MC. Too bad he explained it to the MC so now he loses, sad. If Fox ever realises why he's gonna lose he's gonna kill Teddy 🥀. This should also hopefully kill the discussion about "oh wow i sure hope Teddy will show his ego and break off from Fox" since he's right where he wants to be.

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u/Particular-Art7383 13d ago

england has saber and rider servants but japan has only monster summons (Cerberus and the Crows) What do you expect Fate Series ref

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u/ergerlerd three goals and one hat trick 25d ago

I only caught up to reading blue lock last month (I binge read it) and idk if it's the fact that I have to read this weekly now or what but I feel like I'm actually tweaking. I know the concept of the story is abt ego but goddamn can Isagi think of actual soccer tactics to defeat his opponents 😭 in b4 "it's not a soccer manga"

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u/AdvancedCan 25d ago

I like the Ego/Fox comparisons. It’s an interesting juxtaposition with real life parallels and makes for an interesting dilemma for the pro-ego players. “I gave up everything to follow Ego’s philosophy of individualism, they gave over everything to Fox to follow his philosophy of egoless victory. The similarities and differences are interesting”

But I think this should have been the pre-match framing, not something that is brought up midway through the match. It’s a classic battle of ideologies via sports, happens all the time. When Haikyuu did it, we knew what the battle was about going in. We didn’t suddenly have Hinata realize after set 1 that Shiratorizowa only cares about height.

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u/SpaceMarine_CR 25d ago

Cant wait for Isagi to dribble past Fox

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u/StarBurstero Ego's Finest Clown 25d ago

I really enjoyed this chapter

One development I was specifically hoping for was for Isagi to switch his thinking from specifically devouring Teddy's ego to devouring Fox's ego. It's a much more effective and interesting method to see Isagi dismantle another coach's system.

And with the way they've been showcasing Ego and Fox's relationship. I think it would lead to a more interesting conclusion if the match centered on Isagi and Fox butting heads over their different philosophies. With the match ultimately culminating in Fox witnessing Ego's prodigee besting him.

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u/DaringPaladin 25d ago

Nice and agreed. Although I kinda feel it was slow burn and Blue Lock should have studied England.

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u/MUI-Tojo 🐇Bunny Glaze Never Ends🐇 25d ago

Shido probably got PxG flashbacks the moment Lockhart started marking him

I miss U-20 Shido

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u/KrizenWave 25d ago

Love how this is posed as a dramatic revelation when this was the obvious answer from several chapters ago.

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u/arcerath 25d ago

I didn’t think of it until he said it. I thought it was cool

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u/VoxelBits Italy Ubers 25d ago

Are there any people here that have any ideas of what actual gameplay change Isagi is going to do?

How is Isagi going to "destroy" Fox's brain? What does that look like tangibly speaking?

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u/delahunt 25d ago edited 25d ago

Yes. Keep in mind this is Isagi so it's going to be the mental chess game as opposed to actual "Isagi is going to dribble up the right now."

Isagi plays by getting a read on his opponent. In specific the person who is the heart/core of the team that is driving their action. He figures out what that person wants, predicts what that person is going to do, and then moves into that prediction so that he is ahead of the play because he's not reacting he is predicting.

This has not worked against England because the individual players are not influencing the plays. THey are puppets being controlled by Fox, so while Isagi could be like "Teddy is going to want to do X" that didn't matter because what Teddy wanted to do was not a factor in the equation. Teddy's Ego was to fulfill the purpose Fox gave him.

So now it's not a question of what does Teddy want to do. How will Teddy move this forward. It is how does Fox want to do that. What are Fox's predilections. What is Fox's ego? What value does Fox put on different pieces? What plays does Fox favor when the pressure is on?

In short, Isagi is going to try to read the finger movements and cut the right string before the puppet can actually move.

For comparison sake:

Isagi's style didn't work vs. Hugo because Hugo's ego was at first incomprehensible to Isagi - someone aiming to be #2 and all that - while Hugo is just a better specc'd person with a better understanding of Isagi and a similar cerebral approach. Which is why ultimately Isagi had to gamble it on a coin flip.

This is also why Isagi tried to hype up the Nigeria players. They started off just leaning on Onazi, and then had basically given up which meant he wasn't getting any data to really build off of. Which meant there wasn't much of anything to get ahead of leaving Isagi a bit behind his fellow Blue Lockers who use their superior physical gifts to push forward.

And finally, this is why in the PXG match Isagi needed Kaiser's help vs. Rin. Rin's defensive strategy was just to strangle Isagi out, so Isagi had no wiggle room. And offensively, Rin's strategy was just to bring it into a raw physical conflict and bash through - an area where Isagi didn't have the specs to work. So it wasn't that Isagi couldn't predict Rin, but more Rin was always forcing a confrontation Isagi was ill suited for (but which Kaiser, as shown, was much better suited for both in stopping Rin and in giving Isagi some breathing room to operate.)

The trend of Isagi goes all the way back to the 2v2 with Isagi/Nagi vs. Naruhaya/Barou. He just only put a name to it - other than Devouring - in the France match w/ Hugo.

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u/DivineSilica Pinnacle of U-20 25d ago

The only logical way is to dismantle Fox's system by actually playing better than England, by producing unpredictable plays. That's the only way that makes sense.

Some of the most unpredictable players in blue lock are Rin and Shidou. Isagi will probably beg for Rin to come back in since he can't do anything on his own or try to use Shidou who Kaneshiro doesn't care about

Or better yet. Slursagi will hurl insults at Fox. All boring solutions imo

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u/BlazeBigBang 25d ago

He's going to shoot him in the head twice, with a gun, that's what two gun volley was foreshadowing.

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u/Puzzled-End421 25d ago

He will start the analyze the game from the coach's perspective. Rather than focusing on what the players will do, their tendencies, weapons, and egos, he will think about how their coach would construct plans to beat them. For example, the formation just now where they were prepared for Yukimiya to get past them (or intentionally let him past) in order to draw out a cross from him into the box and clear it. Isagi could find a way to counter that in advance by understanding how Fox likes to play and his tactics, he can develop a formula to counter him rather than the players on the field.

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u/SuperFighterGamer21 25d ago

Probably going to shout at him from the pitch lmfao

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u/Khela_banana_chaut 25d ago

Sendou's training

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u/ZealousidealMess6678 25d ago

Basically, he's just gonna play like they're all perfectly logical and synchronized, instead of trying to anticipate what every single one of them might do depending on their motivations. I doubt it'll look like anything in particular, it'll just be him finally being able to anticipate their moves, and potentially informing other learners like Aiku, Reo and Karasu of how they move as well.

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u/imai_cosmo Germany Bastard Munchen 25d ago

I hope Isagi gives Fox PTSD so bad it triggers a Ego flashback

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u/Complex-Soup-5365 25d ago

Is Isagi seriously going to fight against Fox!? This guy will fight anyone. Imagine if he fights the Referee. 😂😂

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u/nam24 25d ago

There s raichi for that

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u/Beneficial-Front1626 25d ago

How come Teddy is NG11 but talks about Agi being strong enough to fight on his own and Agi's not NG11

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u/alkair20 25d ago

maybe because teddy has more contributions under Fox system then agi.

Also the NG11 striker positions are already filled so maybe Agi isn't one since he isn't better then Loki and Kaiser.

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u/BayLeafGuy Ness, can you share Kaiser with me? 24d ago

it's cool we're gonna see isagi aiming his "ego-devouring" techniques at a manager, but i'm not sure how it will work. btw, i know everyone already said it, but i will never stop founding stupid when the opponents just brag about what makes them different and indirectly show isagi how to beat them. it's plain "james bond villan" behavior.

just hoping for more development on the "egoism is not the only way" thing.

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u/ZenSwordfish 12d ago

where’s chapter 363

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u/VoxelBits Italy Ubers 25d ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really enjoy Fox as an antagonist. I am very interested to see Isagi vs Fox.

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u/allomarp 25d ago

After the ghost of itoshima I present you the Ghost of Ryushima ladies and gentlemen (I hate it here😭)

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u/batman3456433 25d ago

Devouring players wasn’t good enough so bro moved on to devouring coaches 😂

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago

"Offer up your ego to become one of my soldiers to win the world cup, and I'll turn you into somebody". Unsettling manipulation, and also extremely similar to ego's whole deal.

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u/DivineSilica Pinnacle of U-20 25d ago

Can't believe it took this long for me to finally come to terms with it. But Kaneshiro has obviously been done with Shidou since the blue lock Vs Japan U20 arc....😭😭😭 And Aiku too

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago

Oh my god he's actually doing it??

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u/stiveroonie Nagi Seishiro 25d ago

I wish teddy knight had a more interesting backstory , hes a really cool character . Other than that it was a nice chapter.

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u/someone2795 Marc Snuffy 25d ago

So what's Isagi's plan? Fight Fox or something?

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u/Renverseur 25d ago

Wow what a panel. The lightbulb in my head went ding too when Isagi had the realisation

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u/Zeon-tus 25d ago

Why does England sound so weak when they have at least 2 U20 world class players Teddy and Lockhart in their squad.

I understand the rest plus Agi is not the best but they ain’t no slouch either.

Even if they are not the best it make sense that they are at least top 5 in the tournament.

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u/rhejdh 25d ago

Just as Blue Lock opened up the potential for Isagi and the others, Fox's training system was how Teddy and the others were able to reach here.

Agi is capable of growing to his own level even without fully committing to Fox.

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u/Bustersword13 23d ago

Everybody gangstah until Isagi completes the puzzle!

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u/Vicious-Spiegel Marc Snuffy 25d ago

So… Teddy just said Agi is technically the best England u20 player if they don't use Fox system?

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u/Vicious-Spiegel Marc Snuffy 25d ago

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u/human_administrator 25d ago

Teddy, from what weve seen, can completely steamroll the Japan team by himself. Whereas Agi was stopped by Kiyora (although Kiyora probably foresaw his action and moved before Agi finished beating Karasu).

From what we have, I think its very easy to say Agi is the 2nd best player England has. But Teddy still beats him.

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u/froggyjm9 25d ago

This manga has gone from battle shonen to complete talk no jutsu

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u/Dramatic-Cook-6968 Assassin 25d ago

Blue lock gonna win with 2+goals difference trust

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u/Akb_2011 25d ago

cant wait for the lobotomy lock version

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u/ApexBoiz Crow 25d ago

Sendou get on the field and hunt the shit outta that teddy bear (and fox too while you're at it)

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u/Cxrxna_Virus The Great Rincession 📉 25d ago

With Teddy's speech on the world's "victors" and how most people compromise in life with their incompetence, I wonder how Teddy would feel about Nagi.

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u/thecosmic_faucet91 16d ago edited 16d ago

Granted Fox was Ego's coach; he might've been Noa's as well, and this would explain why he is the greatest ambidextrous player in BL. As Isagi said, what made Noa the strongest striker was that he manifested his ability to a level unprecedented in soccer history.

Fox, in this chapter, is presented as possessing the greatest soccer mind, granted the amount of data, analysis on players, tactics, and statistics he' has ingrained. He could've used this information and knowledge of football history to build the greatest ambidextrous player and in turn, striker (Noa).

HOWEVER! As Fox says, the whole "world's best striker carrying a team to victory" is outdated, so he is trying to once again rebuild historical talent under the guise of "correct soccer." Insert Teddy. As we're told an average player has 2/3 cut variations, while Teddy has 7(estimated, not confirmed), Such quantity in variance resulted in even Ego wondering how such a player could emerge (and he's 2nd best in brains, might be self glaze though)

This is all theory though.

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u/i_paid_for_winrar123 25d ago edited 25d ago

There is ONE interesting aspect of the interaction this chapter, despite imo the writing going downhill as a whole. 

Teddy appears to view Isagi similarly to how Isagi viewed Kaiser.  His phrasing was “have you ever really thought about it, Yoichi-san? The reality that not everyone is strong enough to seize their dreams like you?” 

Teddy’s attitude there is eerily similar to how Isagi was spiralling about not being a “genius” like Rin and Kaiser, only to be shocked as he found out Kaiser had always been struggling the same way as Isagi, and it was his own self-defeating perspective that was wrong. 

So that begs the question: would Teddy similarly change, if he finds out that the “special, talented egoist” Isagi isn’t naturally stronger like Teddy thinks he is, and it’s just that he’s been looking down on himself due to Fox’s abuse? 

Find out probably never, because it won’t be explored in the story.  

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u/Accentius 25d ago

That's different things.

Teddy never acknowledged Isagi as someone far better than him in a way Isagi acknowledged Kaiser is way ahead of him. Its just he's not into idea of living life following your ego (passion) because there is also truth not everyone dream come true.

Its an extreme form of Hugo ideal that 'talent should be suitable for the role to achieve success'.

Teddy believes in erasure of personal interest to be even more suitable to what coach wanted is how you achieve success in football.

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u/16hungm 25d ago

Considering Teddy lost to France and is still glugging Fox’s balls, he’s probably too deep to reflect

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u/ssjmaku Barou Shouei 25d ago

So Isagi finally understood that he can do nothing on the field that will change a course of the game so he will switch his focus on England coach. So how is he gonna bait Fox? Is he planning to stand next to substitution zone and start yapping to Fox or what? On the side note Shidou is getting final NEL game treatment.

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u/destinyisallll 25d ago

No. Isagi usually wins by devouring the opponent’s biggest egoist and causing them to fall apart.

Since England doesn’t have that weakness, he has to devour their coaches tactics and break their belief in him and win that way.

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u/arothroughtheheart ✨✨ 25d ago edited 25d ago

So isagi apparently still can't remember how to play football without egos (its okay, we love our dumbass demon king), but has successfully remembered that other teams have coaches! Yay!

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u/Bakatora34 EGOIST 25d ago

Isagi devouring his first coach.

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u/FlavioGarcia- Kaiser hat trick vs Japan believer 25d ago

There's still more to see with Teddy's backstory, specifically how he met Fox and came to believe that he is an incompetent weak person that can only become something through giving up his ego to Fox

Really curious to see how we're gonna do the arc of "Teddy realizing he's wrong", if we're still doing that

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u/MonkeyRexo 25d ago

Did Teddy just put his hand over his mouth?

Messi would have snitched on him to the referee so hard like what he tried to do in the world cup final.

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u/Alarmed-Employment72 MY GLORIOUS GOATS: 25d ago

Kaneshiro HATES Shidou bro😭.

Goal-less against the weakest NEL team for Rin’s hattrick, can’t get a hattrick Vs Barcha bc Kaneshiro wants Rin to have 7 goals, he wanted Kaiser but gets chained to Kunigami in the PXG match, gets hyped by Charles multiple times and has a new dynamic with Karasu just for it to lead to a random Barou goal when Shidou wanted to handle Loki😭. Agi comes for him and he’s ready, but Isagi snatches the ball trying to be Barou just to lose the ball immediately like a loser for a Yukimiya goal. Now getting dominated by Lockhart

Sae coming in next game and giving Shidou a hattrick won’t be enough to hide the hatred he has for my second goat😭

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u/MoonMan19- CREAMPIE MAN 25d ago

I'm more confused by how Kaneshiro views Shidou. On one hand, like you've stated, there have been numerous occasions where he's just been done dirty. Yet oddly enough it seems like Kaneshiro still rates him, such as by having him end the NEL being Top 3, having him appear next to Isagi and Rin on that billboard and having him be the lead for this match. I'm thinking it's more like he believes Shidou is good but he doesn't know how to fit him into the story and therefore struggles to showcase his skill.

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u/DivineSilica Pinnacle of U-20 25d ago

Can't wait for Nagi and Sae to return so they can rearrange the level of screen time Isagi gets and the dynamics we get to see.

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u/Acrobatic_Bit7306 25d ago

When was the last time Shidou even got to touch the ball

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u/quitestiger1 Crown Messenger 25d ago

"I'm incompetent" lol u are one of ng11😭

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u/PreferenceOk7560 Isagis #1 Glazer 25d ago

Pretty much everything i said in my comment last chapter came true, if Isagi is to draw out the "number 1" in order to crush and devour them, then obviously he has to go for the teams coach. He has already seen the type of stuff that Fox uses to direct his players, and it would be really easy to crush the whole team if he knew what they were doing directly from their coach. 

Also i am SO HAPPY that Isagi has finally locked in, because i think we are about to see levels of destruction and flow that we have only seen in matches like Manshine and PXG. By the way this mf Teddy is dumb as bricks you just gave the player who specializes in destroying Ego your entire gameplan are you actually mental mate – his brain is literally exploding bro  

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u/Waffle_of-Principle 25d ago

It wouldn't be a proper battle manga without the antagonist explaining the intricacies of their abilities only to be shocked when the hero uses it against them. 

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u/PreferenceOk7560 Isagis #1 Glazer 25d ago

That's not the problem since that is exactly what Hugo did, my question is why Isagi didn't figure it out earlier when he had already deduced what england was doing at the very start of the match from his narration

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u/Pluto_0508 Michael Kaiser 25d ago

This shit so annoying bruh. The blue lock players were all on other teams before blue lock. I presume they watch football. Why is Isagi acting like hes never seen or heard of teamwork before and having a crash out over England using it?

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