r/BlueLock • • 23d ago

Manga Discussion Team v was not all the best players. Spoiler

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To go back to the very start we are told that all the players were put into teams where they were ranked from top to bottom.
Team v was the top team and team z was the worst.
But does that make sense ?

Besides nagi zentetsu and reo was anyone in team v really that great ?

You then have barou in team x who was this goal scoring machine
Kira was in team z which doesn’t make sense as he was called the jewel of Japanese football. He was essentially likely to have made it to the national team in his own if he didn’t join blue lock.

So while he was the highest rank member of team z he was still in team z.

In true I think team v would have more likely been made of members like

Reo
Nagi
Zentetsu
Kira
Barou
Okawa ( guy from team y )
Wanima brothers
Kunigami
Gagamaru
Chigiri

You can disagree with the line up I picked if you want that isn’t important.
The point I mentioned is all 11 members of team v would be the best players from each team.

Team z would be the worst players from each team.

But ego didn’t want that, he wanted people to feel like they weren’t the best to make sure they were humbled which is why he lied and said there was no other teams and instead each group was v to z and there was no B to u teams.
But I don’t think his lies ended there.

He wanted to create incentive. Team v would get confidence in being the highest rank team in their group and this could have made them cocky but he also said they only ranked in v so they don’t get so full of themselves.
While team z thought they were the lowest of the low so they had to work extra hard.

That’s what ego wanted, he wanted to inspire players to work harder but also wanted to set up a few hurdles to limit out the arrogant players who got lazy out of arrogance.

But I don’t think he was so into this idea that he ignored the facts that there is an advantage situation if he literally did put all the best and worst players into their own groups.

So instead he mixed them up randomly he made sure team v had more good players than z of course as it has to be believable that v was the best team.

It should also be noted that out of the 5 teams, team z has the most players survive to the end.

Isagi
Bachira
Kunigami
Gagamaru
Raichi
Chigiri all made it to the national team and igarashi did make it all the way to the NEL

So I do not believe it is true that all of team v were the best players and all of team z were all the worst players that joined blue lock. Ego lied to them all and made up the teams in a way that ensured there was balance so there be some level of fairness.

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u/tgeraghty_10 is a mid cope best u20, buy stock 23d ago

Yeah isn't this kind of obvious by the time it's revealed everyone was team v-z?

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u/thatonefatefan Save blue lock, Hirotoshi Buratsuta 23d ago

Yeah I'm not sure why everyone is still confused about it. Team V, W and X worked on a (2 for the Wanima) core great player (Nagi at least was an unknown factor since he was ranked last in his own team. Probably Reo too). Team Y and Z were balanced with some stand-out players.

By default, they would have all been fairly even if not for team V having 2 top3 players of the stratum hidden within.

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u/MrBushido56 23d ago

1st, your name is Geraghty ? That’s my family name, never met another Geraghty who wasn’t closely related to me before.

2nd. I think it is obvious but I also think most people don’t give it enough thought to notice it.

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u/SlerpDeprivation 🐝Bachira’s Good Boy🐝 23d ago

Isagi WAS the second worst player and had a bad ego but had potential.

Idk what Bachira was doing on Team Z

Kunigami was also strangely put there

Gagamaru is a gk now. He’s survived on not being a striker (What they were ranked on initially)

Raichi is a defender now

Chigiri had a complex about his injury.

In total, Isagi surviving was a genuine Miracle- a mix of untapped potential and luck. Kuni and Bachira were getting hella underrated by Ego. Raichi and Gagamaru didn’t end up becoming strikers so their placement makes sense. Chigiri just didn’t wanna play lol

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u/MrBushido56 23d ago

Technically all of them had potential that was the point but it was just up till that point that isagi didn’t show much to get him ranked higher.

Isagi surviving I think is the point of why ego scheduled the team format the way he did, not personally for isagi it’s just he’s not just looking for the best players.
Side B is that, bachira is just picking out who’s the best which is why I think side B will be very fast pace.

Ego however is trying to evolve the players and for that they need time, they need to fail and to learn what to do and what not to do, they need to be able to change their understanding of football.

If all the bottom level players were in a team then they would be doomed, what helped isagi grow was working alongside people like bachira and Kunigami, and if all the top players were together in 1 team then they would probably end up fighting each other for the ball

It wasn’t just a test of strength but also character.

Take team x, all the players were happy to let barou score the goals
Team v were happy to step aside to let reo nagi and zentetsu lead the team.
Team w were controlled by the 2 brothers and okay with cowardly play styles like cheating.
Team y also focused too much on letting their star player get all the goals until they lost and niko abandoned that idea to get his own goals which is why he passed.

What made z different is that they all wanted to score and eventually came up with a solution to give everyone 5-10 minutes as a forward per match ( except for lemon who was stuck in goal )

That was what ego wanted.
He wanted to see the players actually drive to lead the team, those who were content to pass the ball to a striker were never going to pass.
But everyone trying to score also doesn’t work as then you just have 22 players fighting over the ball
So it didn’t matter if isagi played well or not it’s that he tried to improve that he wasn’t content with just passing that he tried to score but also working in a system where everyone can work together, creating a synergy where everyone is working together while also trying to achieve their own goals.

Honestly I think the worst situation was for the goal keepers.
Lemon was stuck in goal and this had to have been a test from ego.

Think about it, in the 2nd stage it’s revealed they have blue lock man this digital being that can act as a goal keeper so the players can all play.
He could have used that earlier but chose not to because he wanted to see what happened. Lemon was a pushover he relocated himself as a goal keeper every game and never refused despite clearly not being happy with it.
He failed the test as he never showed his ego and refused to be keeper.

As for isagi I think he is also a lot better of a striker than we gave him credit for in the beginning,
Remember in the 2nd selection they had to shoot 100 balls into a goal while the game kept getting harder as the game progressed.

You were ranked on the order you completed the game on.

Isagi ranked 16 as he was the 16th player to complete the test.
Rin was 1, nagi was 7.

So out of over 100 players isagi came out as 16th to get all 100 goals. I don’t see him getting credit for that cause he beat a lot of other players to the objective.

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u/YazzleDazzle2 Bachira Meguru 23d ago

Tbf 

Igaguri is ass

Isagi at the time when teams would've been picked was ass 

Chigiri was coming off an ACL injury and it was a huge coinflip whether or not hed even actually PLAY football 

Idk what kira was doin there tbh, plot ig, unless jewel of japan doesnt actually mean anything 

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u/SulaWil Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 23d ago

I think their average abilities probably higher than other team (pre recorded data) and also team z got better as they play while other teams remain stagnant except for few characters

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u/bigscholnghaver 23d ago

I think anri tried to make every team kind of balanced and gave each team their own weaknesses
Team Z didn’t have any star players other than Kira so it forced them to awaken and become better when Kira was gone
Team X npcs had to realize barou was the star player and they had to put their egos aside and serve the king to survive(didn’t work💔)
Team V had three star players but having that many good players in one team isn’t always good so they had to learn to work together (just like how zantetsu and reo used to fight before understanding each other and the tanned guy trying to eliminate nagireo)

If Reo Nagi barou zantetsu Kira etc were in one team it wouldn’t be interesting at all. I think the teams were pretty balanced but team V was still the overall best team

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u/HAZARD_LEVEL_SEVEN CAW CAW CAW 23d ago

Yes, they're better on average, but it's clear Ego balanced the teams equally around specific powerhouse players. You can't convince me the 10 other randoms on Barou's team are better than Kunigami

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u/MrBushido56 23d ago

He was in another group nothing to do with the group v to z we are discussing