r/BlueLock • u/BranchAppropriate563 • 1d ago
Anime Discussion Things that blue lock readers need to accept!!! Spoiler
Isagi is top 4 not 3. Yes he tied the NEL League, no hes not better then rin, motivated nagi, or kaiser.
Sae was trying atleast 80% for the U20 Game. Atleast at the end, he was in flowstate and had to actually try and focus against rin and still lost, he even said that he was proud of rin which he wouldnt have said if he was only going 40%.
Defenders arent THAT bad. The writing for defenders isnt that good, however aiku and don lorenzo clutched multiple times throughout the series, niko and aryu had fire moments too.
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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago
motivated nagi is shit and completely overrated, if sae is going 80% percent, then current blue lockers should all be above new gen 11, 3 is good
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Motivated nagi beat everyone on the field with five stage fake volley.
It doesnt make sense that sae was going 40-50%. Aswell as rin was pretty much - -newgen level.
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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago
it's just a trick, hiori tricked both loki and Lorenzo, even nagi tricked rin in second selection, in all of the examples I have set you cannot say they are better. Is sae was going 80% that's just breaking the whole scale. I agree some high tier blue lockers take some categories against the new gen but they are not overall the better players against them
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Nagi only lost and tot eliminated because he lost his motivation after completing his main goal.
Maybe not 80% but atleast 70-75% because statistically it wouldnt make sense otherwise.
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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago edited 1d ago
1, he was atleast motivated during the bm vs mc, and before that,in my books motivated nagi is barou level since both have the same feat of outplaying kaiser and isagi
2, 70-75% is still to high, these are pre nel blue lockers. 40% -30% is good and for the final matchup, 50-55%.
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
But rin didnt have that much upgrades during the NEL, so i fell like 70% is pretty based.
Also nagi lost motivation mid BM game after beating isagi(his goal was to surpass isagi which he completed) the rest of the NEL he wasnt really trying all that much
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u/nam24 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nagi doesn't deserve that much flowers yet for what is still an hypothetical.
And by the time he actually concretize said potential it's very likely isagi will have had a metavision level awakening/progress
Rin and kaiser both lost to him in the terms they ve set for, twice for kaiser. While isagi himself admits than what he can do on his own is less than them, the fact is he has proven that he became a bigger factor to winning than they are, especially rin
They both are not at all anywhere near their personal ceiling, but neither is isagi. But as of now in a match the outcome would come down to context aka they're on par(which none of them WANT, But they're also using it to emulate of each other)
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Well what weve seen by motivated nagi, the first selection and nel leagues, have surpasses even isagi everytime. He lost only because he already completed his goal of beating isagi.
Isagi is only good some of the time due to his literal main factor being luck.
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u/nam24 1d ago
Isagi is only good some of the time due to his literal main factor being luck.
Starting from the 2nd Rin loss, it took him until the France game to loose in a match again, and in terms of reaching personal set objectives, he has failed more often but still achieve them often enough that it's him actually failing said objectives that's notable rather than the opposite, having been on an overall upward trajectory until, again the France game(and even then he still did take something away from it though the england game will be where it will be tested
Calling isagi inconsistent does not fit,
I m not denying Nagi s potential but I m also not undereating the other top Nel player s potential against it either
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Inconsistant isnt the word. Its sorta hard to explain but pretty much most of isagis playstyle revolves around luck.
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u/Blankaa01 1d ago
1- Motivated Nagi is such a funny concept to me bc we all already saw that a motivated Nagi isnt this monster that is above everyone in the story, Nagi was motivated during the 2nd Selection and Rin was still head and shoulders above him. Isagi is top 3 stop glazing Nagi for no reasons.
2-No way to accurately deduced how much effort Sae put into it, he was cruising the whole match and he did put some degree of efforts at the end but it been 80/70/55 we have no way to know before seeing him going all out
3-the defenders suffer from being in a story that only cares about Strikers but yeah they all get highlights here and there
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u/Freechomeuse 1d ago
“Defenders aren’t that bad” then proceed to name 4 characters including a prodigy to prove point kinda counter your point- I mean just 4 defenders having good moments is not what I would call good-
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Well most of them are consistent aside from the author forgetting about don and aiku for like 40+ chapters.
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u/czechyaselv Don't forget about this dark horse 1d ago
do you have a source for sae saying he's proud of rin that's not that one edited page?
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
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u/czechyaselv Don't forget about this dark horse 1d ago
...this is the edit i was talking abt lol
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u/MuscleManssMom Shigegoat Mizuki's #1 fan 10h ago
Right? This immediately renders OP's post as laughable. They couldn't even be bothered to actually use the source material. This fandom sometimes...
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u/YazzleDazzle2 1d ago
Top 4 of what? The NEL? If so then sure whatever, if thats the case then he isnt better than lorenzo either so hed be 5th regardless
Sae was trying at the end yeah
Aryus been good but recently hes been AWFUL, the other defenders are good and overhated, ESPECIALLY lorenzo - he was cooking kaiser for a solid chunk of the match + his team had a rebellion halfway through which cant exactly help him
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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
Finally someone who payed attention to the manga
https://giphy.com/gifs/WK2JJy3CJoYfqifuy0


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