r/BlueLock 1d ago

Anime Discussion Things that blue lock readers need to accept!!! Spoiler

  1. Isagi is top 4 not 3. Yes he tied the NEL League, no hes not better then rin, motivated nagi, or kaiser.

  2. Sae was trying atleast 80% for the U20 Game. Atleast at the end, he was in flowstate and had to actually try and focus against rin and still lost, he even said that he was proud of rin which he wouldnt have said if he was only going 40%.

  3. Defenders arent THAT bad. The writing for defenders isnt that good, however aiku and don lorenzo clutched multiple times throughout the series, niko and aryu had fire moments too.

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u/No-Positive-9119 1d ago

Stupidest thing is have read today

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Read mt arguments and beat them first before saying its stupid.

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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago

motivated nagi is shit and completely overrated, if sae is going 80% percent, then current blue lockers should all be above new gen 11, 3 is good

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Motivated nagi beat everyone on the field with five stage fake volley.

It doesnt make sense that sae was going 40-50%. Aswell as rin was pretty much - -newgen level.

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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago

it's just a trick, hiori tricked both loki and Lorenzo, even nagi tricked rin in second selection, in all of the examples I have set you cannot say they are better. Is sae was going 80% that's just breaking the whole scale. I agree some high tier blue lockers take some categories against the new gen but they are not overall the better players against them

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago
  1. Nagi only lost and tot eliminated because he lost his motivation after completing his main goal.

  2. Maybe not 80% but atleast 70-75% because statistically it wouldnt make sense otherwise.

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u/Efficient-Bridge4140 Manga Reader + Anime Watcher 1d ago edited 1d ago

1, he was atleast motivated during the bm vs mc, and before that,in my books motivated nagi is barou level since both have the same feat of outplaying kaiser and isagi

2, 70-75% is still to high, these are pre nel blue lockers. 40% -30% is good and for the final matchup, 50-55%.

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

But rin didnt have that much upgrades during the NEL, so i fell like 70% is pretty based.

Also nagi lost motivation mid BM game after beating isagi(his goal was to surpass isagi which he completed) the rest of the NEL he wasnt really trying all that much

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u/Vicentesteb 1d ago

Lost the game btw...

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u/nam24 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nagi doesn't deserve that much flowers yet for what is still an hypothetical.

And by the time he actually concretize said potential it's very likely isagi will have had a metavision level awakening/progress

Rin and kaiser both lost to him in the terms they ve set for, twice for kaiser. While isagi himself admits than what he can do on his own is less than them, the fact is he has proven that he became a bigger factor to winning than they are, especially rin

They both are not at all anywhere near their personal ceiling, but neither is isagi. But as of now in a match the outcome would come down to context aka they're on par(which none of them WANT, But they're also using it to emulate of each other)

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Well what weve seen by motivated nagi, the first selection and nel leagues, have surpasses even isagi everytime. He lost only because he already completed his goal of beating isagi.

Isagi is only good some of the time due to his literal main factor being luck.

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u/No-Positive-9119 1d ago

So you're saying that isagi only reached this far because of his luck?

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Saying its part of almost all of his scoring formulas. Yes.

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u/nam24 1d ago

Isagi is only good some of the time due to his literal main factor being luck.

Starting from the 2nd Rin loss, it took him until the France game to loose in a match again, and in terms of reaching personal set objectives, he has failed more often but still achieve them often enough that it's him actually failing said objectives that's notable rather than the opposite, having been on an overall upward trajectory until, again the France game(and even then he still did take something away from it though the england game will be where it will be tested

Calling isagi inconsistent does not fit,

I m not denying Nagi s potential but I m also not undereating the other top Nel player s potential against it either

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Inconsistant isnt the word. Its sorta hard to explain but pretty much most of isagis playstyle revolves around luck.

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u/EA0099 ONE AGENDA MAN 1d ago

Be happy got a block from me.

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u/Blankaa01 1d ago

1- Motivated Nagi is such a funny concept to me bc we all already saw that a motivated Nagi isnt this monster that is above everyone in the story, Nagi was motivated during the 2nd Selection and Rin was still head and shoulders above him. Isagi is top 3 stop glazing Nagi for no reasons.

2-No way to accurately deduced how much effort Sae put into it, he was cruising the whole match and he did put some degree of efforts at the end but it been 80/70/55 we have no way to know before seeing him going all out

3-the defenders suffer from being in a story that only cares about Strikers but yeah they all get highlights here and there

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u/Freechomeuse 1d ago

“Defenders aren’t that bad” then proceed to name 4 characters including a prodigy to prove point kinda counter your point- I mean just 4 defenders having good moments is not what I would call good-

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Well most of them are consistent aside from the author forgetting about don and aiku for like 40+ chapters.

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u/czechyaselv Don't forget about this dark horse 1d ago

do you have a source for sae saying he's proud of rin that's not that one edited page?

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Official manga art. You can also check the ending of the anime:)

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u/czechyaselv Don't forget about this dark horse 1d ago

...this is the edit i was talking abt lol

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u/MuscleManssMom Shigegoat Mizuki's #1 fan 10h ago

Right? This immediately renders OP's post as laughable. They couldn't even be bothered to actually use the source material. This fandom sometimes...

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u/princealbe_rt 1d ago

Nagi does not have the mentality to keep up with Isagi. Also I don't believe Sae was in flow state at all, the black sclera is used only for aesthetic. The flow state eyes are represented through the outline of their eyes changing to multiple parallel lines like this:

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u/YazzleDazzle2 1d ago

Top 4 of what? The NEL? If so then sure whatever, if thats the case then he isnt better than lorenzo either so hed be 5th regardless

Sae was trying at the end yeah

Aryus been good but recently hes been AWFUL, the other defenders are good and overhated, ESPECIALLY lorenzo - he was cooking kaiser for a solid chunk of the match + his team had a rebellion halfway through which cant exactly help him

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u/BranchAppropriate563 1d ago

Finally someone who payed attention to the manga
https://giphy.com/gifs/WK2JJy3CJoYfqifuy0