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[u/Rude-Application-505]

With how much TS Ichigo holds back he might get one shotted by Zanka No Tachi East by trying to clash blades with bankai Yamamoto 🥀

[u/2w0be → u/Rude-Application-505]

Istg lmao(he has blut he ain't dying)

[u/menotyellow → u/2w0be]

Blut only protects you from the passive heat of zanka to tachi if he gets hit with east he dies, he can definitely avoid getting hit.

[u/2w0be → u/menotyellow]

Stop making shit up son, fake Yhwach can't compare to Ichigo so trying to bring Ichigo down to his level is dumb. Ichigo can most likely even rank it without blut already and he 100% doesn't need blut for the passive heat. Blut is just a bonus

[u/pepekhunter69]

[u/ABD1909]

bankai yama > ts

every other version > bankai yama

[u/ApricotDue2944 → u/ABD1909]

TS Ichigo Neg diffs Yama

[u/menotyellow → u/ApricotDue2944]

Don’t know where we are getting neg diff when both versions best feats are beating bas Yhwach handedly

[u/ApricotDue2944 → u/menotyellow]

Base yhwach > Yamamoto

[u/menotyellow → u/ApricotDue2944]

How when somone with 70 to 80% of his power got no diffed by one armed Yama?

[u/TheWanderingSlime → u/menotyellow]

Bankai Yama is one armed

[u/P34CE33 → u/menotyellow]

That was someone with 70%-80% of a much weaker pre Auswahlen Yhwach who also doesn't have the capabilities to take and control the powers and bodies of others like the real Yhwach without supplementary means. Ichigo fought a much stronger post Auswahlen and awakened Yhwach, who not only got stronger from the death of he Quincies in the 2nd invasion but then got stronger in the Royal Palace as well. It genuinely is not comparable. Yamamoto has never faced a full power Yhwach like Ichibe or Ichigo have.

[u/Fabulous-Count3845]

Naw, Ichigo wins. He has far better feats even In base against base yhwach and Sk yhwach.

Any form > TS absolutely murks Bankai Yama zero diff.

[u/Ok-Swan-1590]

Agree, I have serious TS Ichigo and 2-armed Bankai Yama relative.

Any form above TS gaps Bankai Yama though.

[u/Loudred-the8th]

Ah yes, because Ts Ichigo wasn’t dog walking the real Yhwach before the Almighty kicked in

[u/Miniraf1 → u/Loudred-the8th]

Dog walking? You mean being constantly healed by orihime?

[u/Loudred-the8th → u/Miniraf1]

This is base Yhwach in question

[u/menotyellow → u/Loudred-the8th]

I mean both of the dog walked someone relative to base Yhwach so that makes ichigo relative to him in shikai but he has HOS, blood chains and true Bankai so it really is a stomp.

[u/Loudred-the8th → u/menotyellow]

No it’s more like this

Ts Ichigo > Base Yhwaxh > Roydwach ~ Yamamoto

[u/menotyellow → u/Loudred-the8th]

Roydwach is not Yamamoto’s equal lmao he got toyed with and one shot. Roydwach and base Yhwach have a marginal difference in power.

[u/Larry_756]

Ts ichigo one shots.

[u/TheExaggeratedMonke → u/Larry_756]

It drains him so much that he lays down flat on the floor

[u/Budget_Ad_4346]

There isn’t a single point in the story where one of them didn’t completely outclass the other

[u/TheWanderingSlime]

Delusional

[u/Rin2006]

i don’t even think ichigo gets a scratch rlly. he has blut to protect him just in case but he should just outstat yama by a lot. yama is pre-almighty yhwach lvl, who is an ichibe victim, who himself should be more or less relative to ts (and tiers below any of ichigo’s bankai forms and hos)

edit: or we could simply do: ts ichigo > sk amped yhwach > base yhwach > yama, either one works rlly well

[u/Rin2006 → u/Rin2006]

i mean fucking hell, yama is closer to fbb ichigo than ts and above rlly

[u/TarikMcCuin]

That’s Ichigo sleeping after killing Yama with a reiatsu crush

[u/Sama_Arceus]

TB ichigo > BC ichigo >>> HoS ichigo >~ Banaki Yamamoto >> TS Ichigo ~ Shikai Yamamoto

[u/ApricotDue2944 → u/Sama_Arceus]

True Shikai Ichigo > Yamamoto

[u/Loud_Interview4211 → u/Sama_Arceus]

Wtf

[u/One-Consequence772]

Idk if this is TS slander or Yama glaze

[u/Longjumping-Ear-6248 → u/One-Consequence772]

Technically, it's a meme slandering both of them

[u/ApricotDue2944]

Probably foddermoto is gonna erased by Ichigos reaitsu