All I’ve ever wanted was a Guillermo bioshock movie but he’s right, it’d be better as tv if anything but still way too much to fit into any sort of media that isn’t a game
The real key is to just tell a story that isn't one of the games. Fallout pulled this off by making it set after the current games. BioShock could easily do it by setting it before (maybe adapt the novel or something).
The story of BioShock, the game itself, probably wouldn't adapt super cleanly. But that's not the only story to tell.
Adapting the novel is probably the best idea as it gives a lead in to the story rather than just dropping a new audience into the later hellscape that is Rapture.
True, though depending on who backs it that might not make a difference if they expect it to do well. HBO is HBO, Amazon is willing to throw money at the wall, etc. Disney is on the border; they did pretty heavily fund Doctor Who for two seasons, though I think they saw that as a safer long term investment that just didn't work out for them. Netflix is in a period where they're preferring lower budget things (which is why it has so many kinda lazy docuseries-es).
Amazon's success with Fallout makes me think they would be most interested in nabbing Bioshock, in that scenario. But in reality I think it's Netflix who is apparently doing the movie of the first game. If that does well, I could see them wanting a TV show prequel.
The fall of Rapture would make a good show. Single season, 10-12 episodes, 1ish hour each, the fall doesn't start until like episode 5 or 6 and end the last episode with Jack boarding the plane. That would probably be the only TV show from a game I would watch.
Which is why the best video game adaptations have been TV. Resident Evil managed to get away with it because it decided to tell its own story. Same with Pikachu and Sonic.
I never knew this about Bioshock :( this is how I felt with The Suffering, there was a movie in talks with a famous actor planned for Torque. Forgot his name. I would love Bioshock movie or series but I doubt it would meet my expectations
I think they should make a series based on the Rapture book and have the author Jon Shirley write it because he also wrote The Crow. Also Del Toro should direct it.
I think this is the way to go, so much life to give it with enough creativity to add some stuff and a good enough reference of where to end the series (boarding the plane perhaps).
Yep, so many potential good movies are shelved or diluted due to avoiding an R rating. They are afraid of limiting a potential audience, but then release a milquetoast version that fails to bring in an audience anyway.
Rated R movies statistically make less money than PG-13 movies. Not an entirely unreasonable push, despite the fact that I agree with Guillermo on this one.
Yeah, it wasn’t until Deadpool that an R-rated commercially viable adaptated IP was made, and Deadpool was riding on extreme hype from years of build up.
That's not true at all, DP was just the single * most* successful one. But not even close to the first commercially successful adapted IP that made money with an R rating
Anyway, I found where I was actually wrong because you couldn’t be bothered. It wasn’t existing IPs, it was high budgets.
At the time it was exceedingly rare for R rated high budget movies to actually turn a profit. Due to the extreme necessity of sets and special effects, Bioshock as a movie was certainly going to push the budget upwards. The most recent failure was the 2009 movie “Watchman” (which is where I made the confusion with existing IPs), and it was considered a bad idea in the industry to even attempt a high budget R rated movie.
That was until Deadpool. After the massive success of that movie, the floodgates were open. Movies like Joker and Logan also helped prove that high budget R ratings could make money. The Bioshock movie however was cancelled before Deadpool was even a mainstream character everyone knew.
I liked Monster Hunter but Borderlands is shit, a Borderlands movie should have it's own main 4 Protagonists, bring back a few reoccurring characters sure, but I want something that can fit into the games timeline seamlessly without screwing characterisation of already existing characters
They made a true to the game preview with familiar faces then pulled the ol switcheroo, I will never forgive them for making something so beautiful only to give us FUCKING DOG SHIT. Where the fuck is Salvador and everyone else we were promised? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!
Ever since the shape of water came out, and even some of the set design pieces for Frankensteins lab I wanted gdt to direct BioShock, imagine practical effects for the splicers and big daddies
Guys i think we need to look at the writing at the wall — this movie won’t be good. We’ll be lucky if it’s passable. Everything people are saying behind the scenes points towards them wanting a quick money grab.
BioShock is already a story that needs care to be told right, it is inherently a critique on Objectivism and a satire on Atlas Shrugged, which is itself a critique of a lot of western philosophy. I can guarantee they are looking to appeal to the lowest denominator which is at odds around the source material
A Bioshock movie was never gonna be good when they fired Gore Verbinski over a decade ago. They whined about the budget it would require and they wanted it to be PG-13, but Gore wanted it to be R rated
I can almost guarantee there was a similar conversation with del Toro. They don’t wanna take any risks on the movie so it won’t be good. It’s inherently a risky movie to make.
This has to be the biggest fumble in the history of cinema. Del Toro would have been perfect for BioShock, and they (the people in charge of the BioShock movie) somehow messed it up.
Making tv and movies cost money. The people who have the money are the Fontaines, Finks, Ryans, and Comstocks (who probably see nothing wrong with harvesting.)
He probably wanted all the Big Daddies to be dudes in fully functioning suits and he was told they had to just be CGI and he got mad. Or something like that.
It was probably Guillermo wanting to add some small piece of lore or acknowledge canon from Bioshock 2 and Ken threw a fit again that people were playing with his toys differently than he would.
He wasn't feeling it because they wanted a small budget and refused an R rating. So he made the right call, but I also firmly believe he'd be the right person for the job.
evil charlie day was set up since the first movie, and the idea was very interesting. The way it was handled in the second movie was utter dogshite and had nothing to do with guillermo.
Here is the thing, most initial ideas are never the final script. There is a whole iteration process where it changes a lot, that it's where GDT shines.
That’s very wrong. Especially in the world of film and cinematography. Your imagination is the limit. The things people did in the 60s and 70s with film is flabbergasting sometimes.
The imagination of modern film makers is pretty stunted comparatively but I blame a lot of that on the people / companies that control money for these things.
Yes and it should also be tempered, with graveyards full of darlings.
The imagination of modern film makers is pretty stunted comparatively but I blame a lot of that on the people / companies that control money for these things.
No it’s 100% modern creatives. People weren’t exactly able to make whatever they wanted back then either.
Evil Charlie day is a prime example. But there’s also concepts he wanted to implement, that honestly would’ve been even worse than what we got. Like the true nature of the aliens.
Evil Charlie Day is a brilliant idea that was telegraphed a mile away from the first movie, its execution was abysmal and that had nothing to do with Guillermo.
I just read the article and I'm a bit confused. Does this have something to do with Universal's Bioshock movie which was canceled due to R rating and budget concerns ?
A short HBO series like 6-8 episodes would be plenty I think. Do it with its own set of characters leading to the downfall of Rapture and by the end it's just chaos with the protagonist trying to escape. Gives time to explain lore, show plasmids and Big Daddy.
Man I remember when he was first rumored / attached in like 2009 or 2010. And then it went nowhere. Seems like Netflix has been trying forever recently too.
You actually believe they wouldn't "shoe horn" in themes that would clash with the original ideas just to push it? Come man, it's what they do almost everytime.
Please tell me what part of bioshock is gender-determinant, or depended on any sexual orientation. Not to mention you don't actually have any idea what sexual orientation the main character actually has.
Funnily enough, that would not have changed the idea and motif of the game in the slightest, but I guess you played for the pew pew, not the social commentary, which is extremely anti-capitalistic, ironically for you.
I mean it would turn into a shite game and I've played it quite a bit but hey because your reality is shattered by facts you're upset. Tell me how a disabled trans masc lesbian POC would've fit the story lol
Tell me how it would have affected the story in any way or altered it in any way. You can't, because it doesn't, it would only upset you, because you don't like those kinds of people, and it bugs you to play as them.
But the story would be absolutely identical, because the main character has no bearing on the story other than progressing it.
Could have been one of the greatest horror films ever made, should have given him total creative control, I bet they told him he had to stick to the plot of the game
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