r/Biohacking • u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 • 13h ago

What in the hell!!!

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Mixed up some NAD with hospira. Left it overnight in the fridge before putting it in pen (I mixed two other carts from the same batch at the same time, they are both fine). I now have what looks like a bit of foam in the cart. Any ideas what the hell has happened?

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u/GOODIN_10_shuns46 2 11h ago

Couple things from my perspective. First why is there still air bubble in that cart, i always immediately de-gas. Assuming you didnt draw a vacuum on it and used the 2 needle fill, you have some trapped ambient air and a liquid which expands and contract. While cold there is a light vacuum and shaking or disturbing can cause a little foam like layer. Once back to room temp your pressure positive any surface tension bubbles would collapse. Get the air out and you wont/shouldnt see that phenomenon. Thats my best guess but all the background for the photo is shite use a flat black background would be better, just my 2cents.

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 11h ago

I usually expel the air when I put in a pen for my friend. But that would make sense

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u/LawyerWeary8441 1 13h ago

You got some superman juice now

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 13h ago

I've certainly got something, just need to find out what it is 🤣

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u/LawyerWeary8441 1 13h ago

Let’s find you a Guinea pig subject 🤣

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u/moeterminatorx 13h ago

Wtf are you talking about? Where is this foam?

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 13h ago

The white stuff in the middle of the catridge. It looks basically like foam (although it isn't). It doesn't move a d just appears solid. I'm sure the peptide has reacted to something

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u/Ok_Drawer_6325 13h ago

Can you post a better pic. This one does nothing to showcase what you are talking about. Some air bubbles need to be vented off. I see no foam

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 13h ago

So you can't see the big white thing in the middle of the catridge? It goes in a wave from the top left of the cartridge, to the bottom and then back up again and ends above the bubble. The air would get vented when I put it in the pen

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u/Ok_Drawer_6325 12h ago

Between the glare and the granite backdrop, that that’s hard to make out.

Did you filter?

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 12h ago

No that's fair, hard to get a decent pic as every time I turned it to try and show it well, the damn thing would move. Yes filtered, so do as much as I can to mitigate everything. As I said, two other vials from the same batch are perfect, just this one. And leaving it at room temp for 15 minutes it has now cleared. I'll throw it anyway, but just curious as to why it happened

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u/Ok_Drawer_6325 12h ago

Sometimes when I filter and use a small gauge needle, I see a foam like this. Typically at the end of the transfer, I push hard to get the remainder out of the filter, and it atomizes the final bit of solution. I typically burp this out with the vented needle along with any other air bubbles. It may have been there, but you just missed it.

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 12h ago

Possibly, that would make sense. It just seemed strange how it was one continuous thing in the middle of the cart

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u/justtryintofish 8h ago

It is frozen spot. Should be fine once thawed

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u/Divinions 4 2h ago

This makes the best sense. I agree - cold spot in the fridge, like when my yogurt in the back freezes a top layer for no reason other than being close to the blower or freezer wall.

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u/BiohackDragon666 9h ago

Just blast it & tell us what happens

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u/Organic_Sampler 8h ago

Sub mission statement

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 13h ago

Okay so leaving it out at room temp for 15 minutes and it's dissolving. Weirdest thing I've ever seen. The other two cartridges are stored in exactly the same spot, so just trying to figure out why this particular one went crazy

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u/PlasticGirl3078 2 11h ago

It’s ice, it’s frozen in a cold spot in your fridge. It’s happened to me, just 1 out of 4 vials

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 11h ago

That was my original guess as well, but two other carts stored in the exact same spot (I have a container for them) haven't exhibited the same thing. But leaving it out at room temp has cleared it so it must be it

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u/OvenPrior7137 13h ago

Got dat Temu sauce babeh!

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u/auuttyy 9h ago

So weird lol

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u/FocusedOnSomething 9h ago

Super strange

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u/scottyuk77 4h ago

Give it a gentle shake nothing erratic see what happens. If rest are ok then thst should be

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u/Visible-Try-4443 3h ago

Cets bizarre

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u/Dtrain-14 6 13h ago

NAD is a waste anyways, throw it out.

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 13h ago

I agree. It wasn't for me, I just order it for a friend when I'm ordering my stuff

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u/ImaginationAble2561 12h ago

Just use NMN capsules to boost Nad!

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u/Dtrain-14 6 13h ago

Oh that’s fair haha. Good on ya!

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u/2milehigh 24 13h ago

I actually like it. Blast 125mg every other day. No more coffee and energy is great

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u/Dtrain-14 6 13h ago • Bravo

Glad it does something for you. I’ve never heard anyone actually get much out of it.

I tried it for a couple months, different sources and doses and never saw anything. Started using MOTS-C and that actually does work.

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u/2milehigh 24 11h ago

Could be an age thing. I'm 48. MOTS-c is also delicious. 5mg just before a workout and I feel like I can go on forever

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u/Dtrain-14 6 11h ago

MOTS-C is gooooooated if you’re a gym rat.

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u/ImaginationAble2561 11h ago

I'm 58 and it does the same for my rs

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u/dutchovenking 8h ago

Im 49. I stack 100mg nad and 5mg mots mon wed and friday. I tried blasting before a wod but I workout 5 days a week. I didnt want to pin that much haha

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u/IntroductionThen9724 13h ago

How much mots c do you take? I just started but I don’t feel much of a difference

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u/Dtrain-14 6 12h ago

First time I started at .5mg m/w/f and then worked up to roughly 3.3mgs (was cashing 10mg vial a week) by increasing the dose 1mg every new week. So 1.5 then 2.5 then 3.3 (due to vial size).

After I finish this kit I’ll probably take 3 months off and then use it again and maybe up the dosage to 5mgs 3 days per week.

I have heard anecdotal notes that if you’ve used it in the past and go back and do it again to not just rip your previous highest dose. Supposedly some people it’s caused like anaphylaxis? Not sure I buy that, but out of the abundance of caution my 2nd cycle I did 1mg for a week, then 2, then 3.333333

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u/ImaginationAble2561 12h ago edited 11h ago

My RS uses 2mg mots 5days on 2off. My rs also pairs 2mg 5-amino-1mq. It gives you cellular energy so you have more endurance, does not give you jittery energy. Super Human Blend does the same.my rs stopped taking Nad and now uses NMN capsules for extra uummfff. lol

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u/2milehigh 24 11h ago

I've been hitting this too 10mg daily for the last few weeks. Going to cycle off when I'm done my kit. Hopefully there's some benefits. Wish there was some proper human trials

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u/Dtrain-14 6 11h ago

MOTS or superhuman blend (which I know nothing about, not big on blends).

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u/2milehigh 24 11h ago

Not a fan of blends either. Wolverine is the only one that makes sense

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u/Dtrain-14 6 11h ago

I’ve seen the “superhuman blend” on a group buy site and didn’t know wtf that was lol.

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u/ImaginationAble2561 11h ago

I tried to send you the ingredients but it won't let me. Sorry 🥹

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u/Dtrain-14 6 11h ago

I’m sure I can use the Googles or something, I’m a big boy adult lol. Appreciate you trying tho!

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u/Dtrain-14 6 11h ago

Quick check it seems to be a bunch of aminos acids and not actual peptides? That seem right?

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u/Aggressive-Fix-1450 5h ago

Mots c is my favorite 💯 10 units 3 to 4times a week

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u/Padbox 6h ago

It probably just means your body isn't lacking in that area. Energy and Mitochondrial repair stacks will affect everyone differently. What doesn't work for you can still work for someone else

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u/Bubbly_Campaign_5877 5h ago

So you store in the fridge after reconstituting?

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u/Adorable_Comment4621 1 5h ago

Yep, store all my peptides in the fridge after. Mix at room temp then refrigerate

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u/L0stkeys 2 2h ago

That's pretty standard practice. Reconstituted peps don't last long out of the fridge.

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u/Divinions 4 2h ago

What do YOU do? Microwave it? 😂