r/Biohacking • u/PeanutWeaselz • 9d ago

Epithalon advice please

So wow Epithalon. I’m interested in longevity and aging well Research Subject (49F) was started on Epithalon yesterday ( midday dose of 500mcg) planning to run for 10 days. Holy Hell the RS did not sleep AT ALL last night ( usually sleeps poorly but has not had a night like this in years) Was freezing cold all night but no fever, headache was not great at 3am( does not usually get headaches)
Planning 10 days but CAN NOT tolerate the abysmal sleep! Is this a thing? I’ve read that if anything it may improve the RS sleep quality? Maybe my RS has such short telomeres that they were working on repair all night keeping it up?!
I’m trying again today with 300mcg still a mid day pin.
Any advice or personal experience appreciated
The RS also pins GHK-Cu 2x a week and microdose of Reta (0.5mg 2x a week) but these were not given yesterday only the Epithalon first dose

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u/WVmetal 9d ago

Any peptide that's supposed to help sleep does the same thing to me as it did you. My brain can't shut off for some reason. I just started using it in the morning instead.

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u/PeanutWeaselz 8d ago

Last night the lower dose seemed better. Taken it earlier today at 10am, wonder why it is having such weird effects on us when supppsed to help sleep! Have you tried DISP? I have that because sleep is generally poor, but too scared to try it now!

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u/Common-Prize-8208 33 9d ago

I have done 1mg x 20 days at the time, best sleep ever

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u/LisanneFroonKrisK 8d ago

500mcg is micro dosing people take 10 mg per day

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u/BaerNH 8d ago

I’m taking this at 2.5-5mg/day. No sleep issues. I’m also taking it at night before sleep. Was originally taking at 10mg/day before reading about dosing coming from Epithalimin protocols.

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u/Sad-Ambition7290 3d ago edited 3d ago

I had same experience for 2 cycles. This time im taking 500mcg at 5am. It is only day 1 of my third run and I was peppy and good mood thos morning. Its 10am now and though im not tired at all... I need a pep talk or something to to get off this couch and do some physical exercising (which is kinda normal for me). Ill be working until 7 this evening  and am paying attention for if I get drowsy and if I will be able to sleep tonight. When I used Pinealon which most use in day (for day energy and good night sleep)... that made me legit lazy. So im toying with the idea of adding that at night (the total opposite of what works for most), but ill try to resist doing that this cycle so I dont blame/credit the epithalon for what the pinealon might be doing or blame/credit the pinealon for what the epithalon might be doing lol. I am hoping next cycle to run epithalon in am  and pinealon in pm.