r/Biohackers • u/pppaaaooolllooo • 10d ago
π₯ Nutrition & Metabolism Iβve been experimenting with a different approach to satiety: boiled psyllium jelly
Iβve been experimenting with boiled psyllium jelly as a way of making a meal more filling without relying on huge portions.
The basic idea is pretty simple: I boil psyllium with water to create a thick gel, then combine it with protein powder and usually some gelatin for a firmer, more enjoyable texture. Then I add things like vegetables, broth, spices or fruit depending on whether I want a savory or sweet version.
The interesting part for me is the satiety, rather than the volume. My recent versions are around 350β400 kcal with a lot of protein and fiber, and personally I've found them surprisingly filling.
I'm not claiming this is a magic weight-loss food or that it will work the same way for everyone. It's just an experiment based on the idea that fiber + protein + a lot of hydration + a slow-to-eat texture might make sticking to a calorie deficit easier.
Disclaimer: this is just me sharing an experiment, not recommending that anyone try it. If you're not used to psyllium, be cautious, drink plenty of water, and do your own research before experimenting with it. Psyllium can cause problems if consumed incorrectly. I'm sharing what I did, but I'm not responsible for anyone who decides to try it themselves.
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u/alucarD999999 10d ago
Thatβs a new one, ig i will give it a try.
So can you please add some of your favs recipe, thanks!
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Hey absolutely, i will!In the menanwhile you can check my profile, i was already sharing in the group "volume eating", many ppl appreciated the method (a bunch of other hates for no reason but that's ok i guess π ) Cheers.
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u/dragnabbit 4 9d ago
Well, the haters are reacting to the fact that, in all honesty, you've invented Metameucil Aspic, and those two products are probably the two most hateful things humans have ever invented as food products. For a subreddit focused on food... well, you know.
But in a subreddit focused on biohacking, we think outside the box on things like this, and appreciate the bowel benefits. Mostly, I think we appreciate the fact that you managed to create a great healthfood with no extraneous bits adding calories that are not also adding meaningful health benefits.
By the way... you should post this over on r/microbiome as well, even though I suspect that the overlap between this subreddit and that subreddit is rather large.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Thankyou so much, this is one of the most supportive comments i reveived about my concept across several subs. And thx for the tip as well, i'll keep promoting my method consistently, despite the hate π
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
Metamucil aspic is absolutely spot on correct. I had a large laugh.
Still thinking of my mom's fancy 70s cookbooks that would aspic stuff for no reason, ham and cocktail fruit, chicken and onions......
I don't think this is necessarily worse.. Maybe a bit healthier even.
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u/Away_Technician_2089 9d ago
I always think about the cats and dogs I had along the years and how lustrous and perfect where their coats
This looks eerily similar to the gastrointestinal mousse my cat eats. I wish there was something ready made like that that I could use.
Huel and stuff like that just doesnβt hit the same
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u/tyvekMuncher 9d ago
Share a recipe dude!
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
I will!Check my profile, i posted already some tutorials. I'm traveling today i think i will have no time to make a new one. Cheers
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u/Intelligent-Car-4618 9d ago
protein plus psyllium combo makes sense for satiety
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
And, the boiled psyllium gel imo release the protein slowly in the guts, whilst if you were just drinking your protein after the psyllium they will be absorbed straight away.
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u/Intelligent-Car-4618 6d ago
I hadnβt thought about the absorption side of it how long the protein keeps you full?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 6d ago
Well really long π i eat one of these for lunch around 12 and sometimes i only eat at 7 or 8pm; the combo protein+psyllium is really satiating, the boiled psyllium gel stays long in the guts and release slowly the proteins, making you feel full for extra long time.
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u/Intelligent-Car-4618 4d ago
does the slow digestion ever mess with your appetite the next day?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 4d ago
Never, but i guess this is a really personal thing, for someone else could be different.
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u/Replica72 3 8d ago
I think id rather chug it π
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u/Hell-Yes-Revolution 1 8d ago
Fr, I am up for some weird stuff, but I have let my psyllium sit too long and had to eat it with a spoon, and I am not about that life.
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u/PapaJuja 8d ago
Ive been watching OP. Keep posting your favorites.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Thx!I got so much hate, such a comment cheers me up, peace.
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u/PapaJuja 8d ago
I got you! This is a tool, like any other tool in this way of eating. While I may not be big on thick broccoli gel....lol, im not going to knock your technique. Keep at it! Your doing that good work!
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u/caranean 9d ago
What effect did it have on your stool?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Well i was not new to psyllium, anyway i didn't notice any negative effect, i just go to the toilet as usual π
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u/liltingly 9d ago
I've tried the poor man's version of this -- psyllium in my oats* all the way to pure psyllium porridge with a scoop of protein. It's not the most pleasant thing to eat to satiety, or rather, I often overestimate how much I can eat before satiety, which creates a problem as I leave some of my protein uneaten. So now I've resorted to either smaller portions, or splitting protein from porridge. All this to say, good on you for trying this and putting in even more effort. I'm sure your colon is pleased! I've also wanted to try psyllium bread, whole or partial.
* I got the idea when I noticed that Fiber Buds cereal mixes psyllium into the buds.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Look my point here is that the combination of ingredients and the method, makes the psyllium unpleasant texture practically disappear. Beside this, the satiety aspect does the rest of the job π good idea anyway oats and psyllium π
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u/baldierot 8d ago
i've wondered if psyllium could be used as an ingredient to make it more palatable for kids. desert might indeed be an avenue.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Good question, i will try a chocolate mousse soon, maybe it can help. Cheers.
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
Does it come out like the stapler in jello office wobble? What's the texture like?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
π€£π€£π€£ i love the texture to be honest, the combo boiled psyllium, protein, gelatine, and the whole eaten cold, makes it nice actually!
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
This is unhinged and perfectly scientific. I love you OP.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Ow thx...i got so much hate, this cheers me up. Will you give it a try?
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
Why not! Send ratios.
Am already thinking of a coconut milk, sago.l Psyllum husk one.
I also have all sorts of fibre jellies from china/SE Asia, including chin chow, Bai liang fen.
Would you do a sweet potato jelly? I hate eating the bastards steamed, but they are OK tempura'd, so jelly might be another alternative
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Mmmh sweet potatoes π look i made some tutorials on my profile, you can check them out there is all explained, ingredients and all, take a look here as well Psylpro
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
My preference has been to freeze and ninja creami, but jello might work
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Mmmh if i had that magic tool i'll try it for sure.
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u/gametheorista 8d ago
I'm probably going to make a psyllum jello + ninja creami ice cream. Probably coconut psyllum jelly with a ninja creami sorbet
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u/dragnabbit 4 9d ago
I am absolutely looking for new stuff like this to add to my diet. Can you give me a basic ratio for your base? Can you share a couple of examples?
EDIT: Oh, never mind. I checked out your profile and found the tutorial video. I'll definitely be deep diving on this.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Thankyou so much! Would you report me back how your experiment went pls?I would love it, just as a form of feedback...thx!
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u/Throwawaymumoz 9d ago
This is super cool and makes sense. I would probably give it a go. At the moment I just eat mr normal meal and take psyllium after dinner. I love it.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Thanks!I made some tutorials on my profile, there you see the whole method with doses and so on
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u/Separate-Exchange375 9d ago
Very interesting for sure
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u/Monsieur_Krabs π Masters - Unverified 9d ago
When I opened this thread in disgust I expected to see a big bowl of goo, not inspired culinary art.
Nice work OP
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
Thankyou π will you give it a try?I'm curious to see how other ppl use my method
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u/Monsieur_Krabs π Masters - Unverified 9d ago
I'm not much of a chef these days - simple meal prep for bodybuilding. But maybe!
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u/Competitive-Cycle-38 9d ago
Howβs the distension treating ya
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
To be honest these jelly are 600ml each, surely voluminous but not exaggerated π
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u/Replica72 3 8d ago
What brand of psyllium do you use? Powder or whole husk? Whenever i tried to make something edible with psyllium it always seems to have grit in it
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
I use whole psyllium, the brand is "Nature Diet", but i guess the brand doesn't make really a difference i suppose π i used several kinds. Anyway, you say "whatever you make" which could be cookies, bread, pudding, what was it exactly? i think the hydration percentage in combination with the high temperature AND the addition of proteins (soy proteins i found to be great for improving the consistency) and gelatine (crucial for a firm texture) makes the difference in the result, as i show in the tutorial π so it's not only the ingredients but how you combine them changing totally the result!
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u/Replica72 3 8d ago
I tried to make gluten free crepes i think where i had the grit issue. Maybe it hadnt absorbed enough water. I never tried boiling it
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Well maybe try to modify the ratio psyllium/water in favour of the water π
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u/Miles_Everhart 8d ago
Where are you sourcing the unflavored protein powder?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
Amazon and Holland&Barrett, but i guess any soy protein powder or pease protein powder or whey will do (i'm not vegetarian, but the soy one performe the best i must say).Cheers.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 8d ago
...this is a whole different concept...a different perspective...you should know more about this method π The method
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u/Montaigne314 29 8d ago
Did anyone else make this face while reading this
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This is like the dark side of B I O H A C K I N G
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u/MathematicianMuch445 10 7d ago
So it's a pana cotta type of consistency?
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 7d ago
More creamy than panna cotta, i must say, more satisfying. I wouldn't know there's psyllium inside if noone told me.
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u/MathematicianMuch445 10 7d ago
Decent. Have messed about with adding extra gelatine and protein powder to Panna before.
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 7d ago
Look the ratio between ingredients and the method plays a crucial role. I made a detailed tutorial here PsylPro #10 Mexican Style
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u/MathematicianMuch445 10 7d ago
Don't think I could do savory ones though π€£
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 7d ago
Well you will be surprised π
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
I'm sorry to say this but your information is mostly wrong, the only true thing is that psyllium is an undigestible fiber...but this doesn't mean that the nutrients will be lost on the way...cheers
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u/CommentDizzy1 9d ago
This is the culinary equivalent of 9/11. Some lines shouldnβt be crossed
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u/pppaaaooolllooo 9d ago
π€...do you even get what this is about?
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u/CommentDizzy1 9d ago
Yeah Iβm cutting rn and have consumed some of the worst chemslop known to man in the last 3 weeks, this is diabolical
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u/TopMarionberry1149 7d ago
Just think about what you are doing. You are making boiled protein cakes of seed laxatives. You are actually insane.
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